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Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
July 09 2012 23:55 GMT
#701
On July 10 2012 08:50 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 08:48 Feartheguru wrote:
Sometimes in ranked the difference between first and last pick is 200 elo.

well yeah thats duoqueuing for you


Actually it happens normally as well. A couple games ago I got last pick @1400 and first pick was 1600.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 10 2012 00:00 GMT
#702
On July 10 2012 08:50 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 08:43 JackDino wrote:
On July 10 2012 08:40 Cloud9157 wrote:
On July 10 2012 08:10 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Orianna is ridiculously op at top. Her auto and QW harass can push melee champs out of lane. If anyone tries to jump at her she'd just bring her ball back and shield herself.


Too bad she sucks at escaping from such a far distance, so ganking her top would be much easier than ganking her mid.

Good thing orianna's team also has a jungler, so counterganking that would result in a doublekill. Also wards.


By this logic I can argue half the champs that go mid are OP at top lane.

Just silly to say derp not so gud top cuz jangle no escapes blabla. Good ward coverage helps a lot, and there are atleast 2 junglers in a game, not one. If you know you're going to get ganked, while shitting on your lane, it's very easy to get a kill/doublekill with a good countergank. It's not like you just roll over and die the second you push past river.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 00:07:25
July 10 2012 00:05 GMT
#703
On July 10 2012 09:00 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 08:50 Feartheguru wrote:
On July 10 2012 08:43 JackDino wrote:
On July 10 2012 08:40 Cloud9157 wrote:
On July 10 2012 08:10 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Orianna is ridiculously op at top. Her auto and QW harass can push melee champs out of lane. If anyone tries to jump at her she'd just bring her ball back and shield herself.


Too bad she sucks at escaping from such a far distance, so ganking her top would be much easier than ganking her mid.

Good thing orianna's team also has a jungler, so counterganking that would result in a doublekill. Also wards.


By this logic I can argue half the champs that go mid are OP at top lane.

Just silly to say derp not so gud top cuz jangle no escapes blabla. Good ward coverage helps a lot, and there are atleast 2 junglers in a game, not one. If you know you're going to get ganked, while shitting on your lane, it's very easy to get a kill/doublekill with a good countergank. It's not like you just roll over and die the second you push past river.


Never said she would instantly be dead if she walked past river. Just said it would be a lot easier to gank her top than mid.

Theres a reason why Kennen and Vlad are like the only APs that can top with success. Swain too, if you're hotshot.

Also have to take into consideration mana. Fountain>top lane is a much longer walk than fountain>mid lane. Of course it can be solved by giving her blue, but that really just depends on if you're blue/purple side.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 10 2012 00:06 GMT
#704
On July 10 2012 08:48 Feartheguru wrote:
Sometimes in ranked the difference between first and last pick is 200 elo.

I wish it was only that much, whenever I'm at or near fake plat I always get 1500's. The skill difference between a 1700 and 1800 can be massively different and then you just multiply it. I actually feel bad (usually because there's no way to know they are that low) because they shouldn't even be in the game. It would be like me losing in MMA and people are booing me, what do you expect.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 10 2012 00:09 GMT
#705
i feel like theres no difference from 1500 to 1900, people are either good or bad
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 10 2012 00:13 GMT
#706
On July 10 2012 09:09 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i feel like theres no difference from 1500 to 1900, people are either good or bad

This, also assuming you have someone who's 100 elo below the top pick, do you really want them on something they can't play instead of something they're comfortable with? Assuming low elo=bad.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 10 2012 00:19 GMT
#707
Um. No.

The difference between 1500 and 1900 is hilarious. People are still atrocious at 1900 (Hotbaz, Rincent, etc.), but to say 1500 and 1900 are essentially the same is just completely false.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 00:33:29
July 10 2012 00:26 GMT
#708
God cait's ult is such a useless piece of shit, at least pre this buff. A third of the time it'd have been better to just continue autoattacking other people because it'll get blocked, or they'll go into brush just as you start charging, or they'll zhonyas, or troll pole, or you'll die, or it won't do enough damage, or they'll get out of your vision before you can start casting it, or you won't have enough mana, or you'll finally get the shot off with no one in range to flash block it, and then your ally will get the kill anyways and your ult will go on cooldown.

I'd trade her ult, and her Q, to have a potato with 100 more range. Caitato's real strength is she wins too many matchups in normals 1v1.
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
July 10 2012 01:00 GMT
#709
On July 10 2012 07:31 SMD wrote:
This is somewhat off topic, but I'd like to hear opinions.

In normal draft, and even in ranked alot, people will "call roles" when they are 4th or 5th pick.

Do you let them have said role, even if its your preferred role and your picking higher? Or is there no such thing as "calling a roll"

This has probably been asked in the past, so I'm sorry if it's been beaten to death, i just thought this was a place to get quick answers.

I like it when people ask for a role in a polite and civilized way, and usually not pick what they asked in said way.
now when some guy comes in and go mid or afk, i make sure to pick a mid champion.

i don't negociate with terorists
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 10 2012 01:06 GMT
#710
On July 09 2012 23:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So, I'm really unhappy that Dragon/Baron kills get time stamped in chat now. I like that it tells you who killed it, but I don't think it should announce it in chat.

It's convenient, sure. And I appreciate it sometimes because I'm a lazy midlaner who never keeps timers. But because of that, I've developed a pretty good "6th sense" for when the buffs are coming back up. The time stamps completely remove any dependence on keeping timers or having a sense for the respawn time (except on red.blue I suppose).

It's one less thing to separate good junglers from better junglers (or teams in general). It might not seem that significant to some, but I really do think they should remove the chat announcement.

Agreed.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 10 2012 01:14 GMT
#711
On July 10 2012 10:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 23:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So, I'm really unhappy that Dragon/Baron kills get time stamped in chat now. I like that it tells you who killed it, but I don't think it should announce it in chat.

It's convenient, sure. And I appreciate it sometimes because I'm a lazy midlaner who never keeps timers. But because of that, I've developed a pretty good "6th sense" for when the buffs are coming back up. The time stamps completely remove any dependence on keeping timers or having a sense for the respawn time (except on red.blue I suppose).

It's one less thing to separate good junglers from better junglers (or teams in general). It might not seem that significant to some, but I really do think they should remove the chat announcement.

Agreed.

They did it because often team fights break out right when they die, so you'd have to take yourself out of the game to type out the death timer, which is retarded. Maybe the complaint would make sense if all timers were announced, but it's dragon and baron for a good reason. A good jungler isn't going to die while typing the timer, he's going to forget the timer while he team fights. Then add in the fact that it's easy to figure out baron timer because one person with the buff can just look at it, you might as well just tell people when the timer is.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 02:04:51
July 10 2012 01:20 GMT
#712
oops
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 10 2012 01:22 GMT
#713
On July 10 2012 10:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
Since not all of you browse r/leagueoflegends. This is pretty hilarious

I vote they keep this in the game lul


literally posted 3 pages ago...
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 10 2012 01:45 GMT
#714
On July 10 2012 04:57 Alaric wrote:
Dude I edited my spelling do it too or I'll have to live with that shame.


could not for the life of me figure out what the difference was... finally found it
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
July 10 2012 01:47 GMT
#715
Yussssss Viktor skin sale gggggggggggggggggggggggg
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 02:06:20
July 10 2012 02:04 GMT
#716
The timer isn't that bad imo. Sure, it used to be the really top tier Junglers who counted 5/6/7 minutes for buffs/dragon/baron but it's been 1-2 years since that and jungling has evolved a lot. Counting minutes just isn't as special anymore as it is a standard now tbh.

I do like it, as a spectator and even as a player, that you can finally tell who takes dragon if there is a contested fight.

Edit: buffs aren't timed in chat and that's what really matters. Teams like M5 can still display their counterjungling superiority with their timings.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
July 10 2012 02:05 GMT
#717
On July 10 2012 09:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Um. No.

The difference between 1500 and 1900 is hilarious. People are still atrocious at 1900 (Hotbaz, Rincent, etc.), but to say 1500 and 1900 are essentially the same is just completely false.

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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 10 2012 02:08 GMT
#718
On July 10 2012 10:47 Cloud9157 wrote:
Yussssss Viktor skin sale gggggggggggggggggggggggg

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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 02:19:12
July 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#719
On July 10 2012 11:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
The timer isn't that bad imo. Sure, it used to be the really top tier Junglers who counted 5/6/7 minutes for buffs/dragon/baron but it's been 1-2 years since that and jungling has evolved a lot. Counting minutes just isn't as special anymore as it is a standard now tbh.

I do like it, as a spectator and even as a player, that you can finally tell who takes dragon if there is a contested fight.

Edit: buffs aren't timed in chat and that's what really matters. Teams like M5 can still display their counterjungling superiority with their timings.

Even back then, the distinguishing factor between top junglers wasn't timing out the major stuff, but their sense for the shorter timers on small camps.

And the day we get announcements that say "Purple Team's Wraiths have been slain!" is the day I quit this game.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 02:39:24
July 10 2012 02:38 GMT
#720
On July 10 2012 09:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Um. No.

The difference between 1500 and 1900 is hilarious. People are still atrocious at 1900 (Hotbaz, Rincent, etc.), but to say 1500 and 1900 are essentially the same is just completely false.

There's a difference between a troll and a bad player. Rincent is a really good player but a huge troll. That said Hotbaz is awful but with 3400 games you will eventually peak at a certain Elo. He's down to 1700 now though np.
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