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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 23 2012 20:42 GMT
#3101
On June 24 2012 05:29 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 05:26 arb wrote:
I don't like the concept of being grabbed -> instant death that blitz brings.

atleast alistar is kinda not that bad

It's the same exact thing, he just moves to you instead of you moving to him. A bit weaker but balanced by the fact that you can't really avoid it but can avoid blitz


I look forward to getting to an elo where he's a problem, at my elos the blitzcranks generally can't hit the grabs properly or just don't know who to grab and when(Darius being a good example)

Don't even need to grab, run towards them, if they focus you, team rolls over them. If they run away, easy grab. If they actually let you get in melee range you powerfist them and grab when they run.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 23 2012 20:46 GMT
#3102
Powerfist is totally bullshit though I got to say, 1.5s stun or so on a 3s cooldown
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 23 2012 20:52 GMT
#3103
On June 24 2012 05:46 Shikyo wrote:
Powerfist is totally bullshit though I got to say, 1.5s stun or so on a 3s cooldown

Don't forget the silence when you get fisted and knocked up too
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
June 23 2012 20:53 GMT
#3104
It was my understanding that some time ago Blitz was acknowledged to be very strong but because of the difficulty of his hook it was acceptable. Blitzcrank is a case of the playerbase improving enough to make him a threat perhaps? That'd be pretty neat.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 23 2012 20:53 GMT
#3105
Blitz Grab is one of the best things for this game. Forces you to find some aggressive strategies instead of having standoffs at Baron.
He might be OP or not, who knows, but this game already lacks abilities that favor initiation over counter initiation.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
June 23 2012 21:02 GMT
#3106
I've been bitter about Blitzcrank for like 2 months. I was one of the few people consistently playing him. I'd run blitz support often, and the minute spectator patch hit suddenly he became more used in high level games. Suddenly everybody seeing it meant they started. It bothers me, not because of my hipster status w/ blitz, but because he's banned so often that if I want to support I can never use him anymore.

I entirely agree with spine though. The game needs more good ways to engage on champions and blitz certainly allows that.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
June 23 2012 21:13 GMT
#3107
Good blitz players have always known how to play him to his maximum effect - landing nearly every hook they need to land and the occational lucky grab.
If you are good with blitz, you can win the game for your team.

Also, yea the game needs more abilities like the blitz hook, poppy ult, amumu bandage or noct ult. Abilities that makes engaging and ganking favourable and effective even when the other team has the advantage, but can be difficult to use right.
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 23 2012 21:14 GMT
#3108
we don't need more noct ults imo >_>
BW -> League -> CSGO
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 23 2012 21:19 GMT
#3109
On June 24 2012 06:13 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Good blitz players have always known how to play him to his maximum effect - landing nearly every hook they need to land and the occational lucky grab.
If you are good with blitz, you can win the game for your team.

Also, yea the game needs more abilities like the blitz hook, poppy ult, amumu bandage or noct ult. Abilities that makes engaging and ganking favourable and effective even when the other team has the advantage, but can be difficult to use right.

Yeah we need more cases of 5man ganking 1 person, that person killing your carry, and running away at full hp
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 23 2012 21:21 GMT
#3110
yeah the game needs more power abilities, instead of just synergious champions.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
June 23 2012 21:22 GMT
#3111
wow, just tried logging in and 1hr queue for NA servers. Is there an issue or something?
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 23 2012 21:28 GMT
#3112
On June 24 2012 06:19 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 06:13 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Good blitz players have always known how to play him to his maximum effect - landing nearly every hook they need to land and the occational lucky grab.
If you are good with blitz, you can win the game for your team.

Also, yea the game needs more abilities like the blitz hook, poppy ult, amumu bandage or noct ult. Abilities that makes engaging and ganking favourable and effective even when the other team has the advantage, but can be difficult to use right.

Yeah we need more cases of 5man ganking 1 person, that person killing your carry, and running away at full hp

Yeah should just stand in the middle with no one engaging for 20more minutes. Why would you run away at full hp in a 5v4 anyways?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 23 2012 21:29 GMT
#3113
On June 24 2012 06:22 Masq wrote:
wow, just tried logging in and 1hr queue for NA servers. Is there an issue or something?

It's been like that
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 23 2012 21:35 GMT
#3114
Noct ult is great initiation and it makes you feel badass, but it's the vision reduction that's annoying, same with Graves' smoke bomb, it takes like 2 seconds to walk out of that thing, and if that's happening late game, you're already dead with no chance of retaliation.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 21:39:48
June 23 2012 21:39 GMT
#3115
On June 24 2012 06:35 Nos- wrote:
Noct ult is great initiation and it makes you feel badass, but it's the vision reduction that's annoying, same with Graves' smoke bomb, it takes like 2 seconds to walk out of that thing, and if that's happening late game, you're already dead with no chance of retaliation.

That's easily solved by not splitting though. If team is together you can stomp anyone trying to dive someone.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 23 2012 22:00 GMT
#3116
It's not just that though. It's his ability to bypass wards by just lane ganking. Too strong. Then late game the vision does screw with people badly >_>
BW -> League -> CSGO
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 23 2012 22:18 GMT
#3117
On June 24 2012 06:28 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 06:19 Shikyo wrote:
On June 24 2012 06:13 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Good blitz players have always known how to play him to his maximum effect - landing nearly every hook they need to land and the occational lucky grab.
If you are good with blitz, you can win the game for your team.

Also, yea the game needs more abilities like the blitz hook, poppy ult, amumu bandage or noct ult. Abilities that makes engaging and ganking favourable and effective even when the other team has the advantage, but can be difficult to use right.

Yeah we need more cases of 5man ganking 1 person, that person killing your carry, and running away at full hp

Yeah should just stand in the middle with no one engaging for 20more minutes. Why would you run away at full hp in a 5v4 anyways?

Cos I got ganked by 5 and my team wasn't near so I just let the ignite tick the AD carry down as I escaped o_O My comment was more like "poppy ult imba"

Also I absolutely hate nocturne ulti. The blink is fine but making every fight near brushes autoloss for the enemy team is really stupid.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 22:56:59
June 23 2012 22:56 GMT
#3118
Anyone else getting wrong masteries/runes when you know you're picking the right ones?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 23 2012 23:00 GMT
#3119
I personally don't need more initiation/counter initiates. Pros do though with their sub 20 kills games.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 23 2012 23:39 GMT
#3120
Just woke up from a nap, now I'm all worked up to play some league of legends. BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ 23min queue time. Way to kill my mood, riot servers.
liftlift > tsm
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