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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2012-11-01 19:40:30
November 01 2012 19:39 GMT
#321
On November 02 2012 04:32 Mondeezy wrote:
How do you deal with a harass heavy matchup as a non-sustain lane?

Example: Playing Vayne/Janna versus Ez/Sona. Sona Qs me every time I go to last hit, if I shoot back ez jumps on me + I miss the CS. I trust my late game positioning/kiting ability greatly, but sometimes I have trouble getting there due to lane matchups.

Another thing - directed toward higher ELO players and "semi-related" to ADC... If I main ADC, would it be better to stick to a main champ or two, or vary based on counter picks? Should my duo partner run support for me, or a diff lane?

Thanks in advance for any replies


Whenever i get into a lane where i notice i can't go aggressive as Vayne - either because the opponents playstyle makes you trouble or the support doesn't really know how to play his role and doesn't create opportunities - i'll sit back and farm under tower, knowing i will be stronger lategame even if i miss a little CS. Then whenever i catch one of them out of position in lane i go all-in, for example when i see one of them backing.

Also, whenever you come back from base with a new item while the enemy stayed in lane, remember that you are stronger now, use that opportunity.

Lastly, since you can let the lane push to your tower, it creates an opportunity for the jungler. Notify him of that and hope that he knows how to do his job.

Vayne has really bad laning while Cait has probably the best laning phase of any AD, so it's not a great matchup to be in.
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
December 05 2012 07:46 GMT
#322
I plan to do a full revamp / update of the guide soon including new Season 3 strats with all my experimentation (Lol Sword of the Divine OP as balls), new masteries, new runes (if any), and updates to how to play the characters (Twitch being one of my new mains, and he isnt even in my guide lol)
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
December 05 2012 21:57 GMT
#323
On December 05 2012 16:46 jcc wrote:
I plan to do a full revamp / update of the guide soon including new Season 3 strats with all my experimentation (Lol Sword of the Divine OP as balls), new masteries, new runes (if any), and updates to how to play the characters (Twitch being one of my new mains, and he isnt even in my guide lol)


Sounds awesome man, looking forward to it and thank you.

What is everyone starting out with? I've been debating between Dblade+biscuit if I go 21/0/9, and boots3 if I go 21/9/0.
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little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 01:02:29
December 06 2012 01:01 GMT
#324
If I get IE first I will follow up with PD, pretty classy (only the movement speed nerf is actually noticeable, didn't expect that and thought it would hit much harder).

However, I tried some Vayne games today and BT into SotD is ridicoulus: you're melting anything even when you lost lane and are behind quite a bit. In addition, it's pretty cheap for the damage it deals.

Generally speaking, I love the 'new' BT a lot. You need Vamp Scepter anyways and once you spend 800g on that I feel like you committed so far that you're temporarily missing too much damage if you go IE after that.

Also, a Garen spinning into the enemy team having a Black Cleaver equipped is your best friend now. So much reduction that your flat pen from runes + Last Whisper makes a Graves Ult hit as hard as an AP caster ultimate during mid game.
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