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Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
August 25 2012 16:00 GMT
#281
Too bad I really like playing Ez.... He's so mainstream but his mechanics are still so fun to play
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
August 25 2012 16:25 GMT
#282
its better to like play ezreal and "have to" paly him then disliking him but still have to play him
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
August 25 2012 16:26 GMT
#283
You don't have to play him.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
August 25 2012 16:35 GMT
#284
wrong I have to play him hes to strong to not pick him (in solo q I mostly evade picking him though)
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 16:52:20
August 25 2012 16:47 GMT
#285
Ezreal is hugely overrated. If you're gonna FotM, it might as well be Graves.

On my 1913 smurf:
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Sure, people play the shit out of Ezreal:
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But they don't win much.
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How many of those are my games:
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twitch.tv/cratonz
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
August 25 2012 16:56 GMT
#286
I have ~60% winrate with Sivir/Kogmaw aswell at 2400/500 elo that doesnt mean that I pick them over ezreal/corki just because I want to have the mobility and I pretty much need to firstpick the AD carry in teamplay due to how the game is played currently. Yes Ezreal might be slightly overrated but not that much one "problem" with him is that mostly lower elo players dont realize that you have to max w (in most cases) and that hes not too great in laneswapping (still okay but many other ads are stronger)
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
August 25 2012 17:03 GMT
#287
Lane swapping is almost an irrelevant consideration for how little it happens.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
August 25 2012 17:17 GMT
#288
depends there are some teams who like swapping for example TSM many koreans or for example team BLACK it gets more and more popular
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
August 25 2012 17:22 GMT
#289
We're talking about solo queue.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
August 25 2012 17:25 GMT
#290
I dont talk about solo q I have to play ezreal in solo q to train thats why I play it
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 05 2012 06:23 GMT
#291
I brought this up in GD, but here is better I would think for a real discussion.

If playing with a Nunu Support, what is the ideal item build for a champ?Just one assumption for now:

A BF item is your first big item. I know this is not true for all ADCs, but I want to assume this because the Triforce builds throw everything for a loop. I don't know if there is a significant difference between IE first and BT first builds with this respect.

Thanks.
Freeeeeeedom
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 05 2012 06:46 GMT
#292
who pushes faster, graves or sivir?
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
September 05 2012 08:50 GMT
#293
On September 05 2012 15:46 zulu_nation8 wrote:
who pushes faster, graves or sivir?

sivir. thats why it get banned vs clg every game l0l.
GANDHISAUCE
[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
September 05 2012 13:00 GMT
#294
this guide is amazing, should be featured on solomid tbh. their Genreal AD guide ois not a good as this one tbh.
oh and you could also give more infos about the supports^^
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
September 05 2012 16:10 GMT
#295
On September 05 2012 15:23 cLutZ wrote:
I brought this up in GD, but here is better I would think for a real discussion.

If playing with a Nunu Support, what is the ideal item build for a champ?Just one assumption for now:

A BF item is your first big item. I know this is not true for all ADCs, but I want to assume this because the Triforce builds throw everything for a loop. I don't know if there is a significant difference between IE first and BT first builds with this respect.

Thanks.


A good rule of thumb is to build items accordingly to what your support doesn't give you. So if its Janna, i sometimes get zeal first (if im kog or vayne i almost always do, cuz that janna AD buff). If its Nunu, i almost always rush IE or BT, and sometimes even skip zerker greaves for a long time. If its Taric / leona / blitz, i get BF early to maximize burst damage to ensure kills, so i may skip a dorans or vamp early. Its typical rule of thumbs, but again, its very lucrative.
http://broukej.cz/lol-signatures/GGod_na_103_4_logo.png
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
September 05 2012 16:22 GMT
#296
On September 05 2012 22:00 [N3O]r3d33m3r wrote:
this guide is amazing, should be featured on solomid tbh. their Genreal AD guide ois not a good as this one tbh.
oh and you could also give more infos about the supports^^


Thanks alot for the compliment! Only the best for TL, and if those solomid guys want the goods, they gotta drop by the best gaming site in the world amirite?

Also this inspired me to try to attempt a subsection on supports. What would you like me to expand on? I may also try to do a 2v1 top lane korean style section.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 05 2012 16:41 GMT
#297
When you push in a 2v1 lane early, are you supposed to slight push first then wait till 2nd wave comes then push to tower or push to tower asap? I haven't tried it but I'd imagine pushing to tower asap makes the wave reset? Or are you supposed to wait for 3 waves before pushing to tower?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 05 2012 18:39 GMT
#298
On September 06 2012 01:10 jcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 15:23 cLutZ wrote:
I brought this up in GD, but here is better I would think for a real discussion.

If playing with a Nunu Support, what is the ideal item build for a champ?Just one assumption for now:

A BF item is your first big item. I know this is not true for all ADCs, but I want to assume this because the Triforce builds throw everything for a loop. I don't know if there is a significant difference between IE first and BT first builds with this respect.

Thanks.


A good rule of thumb is to build items accordingly to what your support doesn't give you. So if its Janna, i sometimes get zeal first (if im kog or vayne i almost always do, cuz that janna AD buff). If its Nunu, i almost always rush IE or BT, and sometimes even skip zerker greaves for a long time. If its Taric / leona / blitz, i get BF early to maximize burst damage to ensure kills, so i may skip a dorans or vamp early. Its typical rule of thumbs, but again, its very lucrative.


Yes, I understand this principle. What I'm asking is what is item #2? Still go with PD? Zeal only? Etc.
Freeeeeeedom
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
September 05 2012 19:59 GMT
#299
Yes, I understand this principle. What I'm asking is what is item #2? Still go with PD? Zeal only? Etc.

Which ad do you play? how reliable it is that nunu hugs you? how much armor does the enemy have? how much money do you have? how much damage does the rest of your team have? how strong are you compared to the enemy team?

If you want it "easy" : usually PD sometimes you may go something else but those are rare cases.
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 05 2012 21:42 GMT
#300
On September 06 2012 04:59 Ente wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yes, I understand this principle. What I'm asking is what is item #2? Still go with PD? Zeal only? Etc.

Which ad do you play? how reliable it is that nunu hugs you? how much armor does the enemy have? how much money do you have? how much damage does the rest of your team have? how strong are you compared to the enemy team?

If you want it "easy" : usually PD sometimes you may go something else but those are rare cases.


Kog, Ashe, Sivir mostly for these purposes.

I always go PD, got called on it a while ago and was confused. So I asked.
Freeeeeeedom
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