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On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.
Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc?
She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better
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On August 24 2012 01:04 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.
Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc? She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better
Her steroid is pretty damn good, actually. Adds both AS and damage, and a healing debuff which is just gravy. Her lack of any repositioning power (even vayne has this) coupled with low range makes her rather difficult to use. Her ulti is really situational too, yes. And she doesn't massively outshine the other strong laners (graves corki ezreal) who have better repositioning power for teamfighting.
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On August 24 2012 03:11 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 01:04 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.
Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc? She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better Her steroid is pretty damn good, actually. Adds both AS and damage, and a healing debuff which is just gravy. Her lack of any repositioning power (even vayne has this) coupled with low range makes her rather difficult to use. Her ulti is really situational too, yes. And she doesn't massively outshine the other strong laners (graves corki ezreal) who have better repositioning power for teamfighting.
And I have been running MF/Nunu with my friend and we have won 100 percent of the time. The MS and AS boost is unbelievably strong and allows her to play a hyper-aggressive lane.
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On August 24 2012 03:17 Shiragaku wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 03:11 sylverfyre wrote:On August 24 2012 01:04 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.
Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc? She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better Her steroid is pretty damn good, actually. Adds both AS and damage, and a healing debuff which is just gravy. Her lack of any repositioning power (even vayne has this) coupled with low range makes her rather difficult to use. Her ulti is really situational too, yes. And she doesn't massively outshine the other strong laners (graves corki ezreal) who have better repositioning power for teamfighting. And I have been running MF/Nunu with my friend and we have won 100 percent of the time. The MS and AS boost is unbelievably strong and allows her to play a hyper-aggressive lane.
MF Nunu is dumb strong, actually, if you're not expecting it.
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On August 24 2012 03:18 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 03:17 Shiragaku wrote:On August 24 2012 03:11 sylverfyre wrote:On August 24 2012 01:04 Ryuu314 wrote:On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.
Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc? She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better Her steroid is pretty damn good, actually. Adds both AS and damage, and a healing debuff which is just gravy. Her lack of any repositioning power (even vayne has this) coupled with low range makes her rather difficult to use. Her ulti is really situational too, yes. And she doesn't massively outshine the other strong laners (graves corki ezreal) who have better repositioning power for teamfighting. And I have been running MF/Nunu with my friend and we have won 100 percent of the time. The MS and AS boost is unbelievably strong and allows her to play a hyper-aggressive lane. MF Nunu is dumb strong, actually, if you're not expecting it.
Awww...so are you saying it is good as a surprise factor?
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It sure surprised me the first time I went against it. You basically can't trade vs MF/Nunu at all, but at the same time, they can't really do much to stop most lanes from passively farming and being more useful than MF later in the game.
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On August 24 2012 03:43 Requizen wrote:
It sure surprised me the first time I went against it. You basically can't trade vs MF/Nunu at all, but at the same time, they can't really do much to stop most lanes from passively farming and being more useful than MF later in the game.
I am not sure about that, whenever there was a passive lane, I would always grin because we have to force the other two to either get zoned or get in bad trades.
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Is there another AD other than Corki that can consistently beat a Ez lane, regardless of the support champ you're playing with? Kind of bored of playing Corki every other game lol.
you cannot say "regardless of the support"
and no outtrading isnt really possible (the w is just so damn strong) kog/nunu can kinda outtrade at onepoint but the problem starts there when we hvae ezreal/sona, leona or taric which to really good harrass can oneshot you.
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Is the Ez/Graves/Corki triumvirate close to being broken out of any time soon? Or should I ignore tournaments for this weekend?
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On August 24 2012 10:23 cLutZ wrote:
Is the Ez/Graves/Corki triumvirate close to being broken out of any time soon? Or should I ignore tournaments for this weekend?
NEVER
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you should exclude Graves from that hes not picked that often ^.^
not often still means more than all other ad carries together it sucks so hard atm to main ad (I mean corki/ezreal) it used to be the role which had the most viable champs but now not really ^.^
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On August 24 2012 11:00 Ente wrote:
you should exclude Graves from that hes not picked that often ^.^
not often still means more than all other ad carries together it sucks so hard atm to main ad (I mean corki/ezreal) it used to be the role which had the most viable champs but now not really ^.^
I mean, hes picked pretty often, and seems to win a better % than ez.
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I mean, hes picked pretty often, and seems to win a better % than ez.
I really really really raelly dislike this winpercentage stuff for tournements it really comes to what teams prefer and what is popular in solo q doesnt really matter due to lower elo being slower to change stuff, you really rarely see graves at high elo atm (and when I see it im happy that I can pick kogmaw  )
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On August 24 2012 21:38 Ente wrote:I really really really raelly dislike this winpercentage stuff for tournements it really comes to what teams prefer and what is popular in solo q doesnt really matter due to lower elo being slower to change stuff, you really rarely see graves at high elo atm (and when I see it im happy that I can pick kogmaw )
I still pick Kog, because, hell, I don't like the AD 3.
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Speaking of AD prevalence, have some [mostly smurf] data.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wy5Ee.jpg)
Not included: Urgot x2, Twitch x1
Average Elo across all games included is 1557.
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Lol Craton, I love how MF sees more play than Kog at smurf levels
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On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.
Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc?
She's received alot of nerfs from back when she used to be a hella strong champion imo.
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Wow, really nice guide! I found that guide really helpful, to get me up in elo, thank you very much. :-)
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On August 25 2012 06:49 Craton wrote:Speaking of AD prevalence, have some [mostly smurf] data. Not included: Urgot x2, Twitch x1
This makes me feel hipster whenever I play Cait. I'm ok with that.
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