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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 16:05:53
August 23 2012 16:04 GMT
#261
On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.

Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc?

She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 23 2012 18:11 GMT
#262
On August 24 2012 01:04 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.

Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc?

She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better

Her steroid is pretty damn good, actually. Adds both AS and damage, and a healing debuff which is just gravy. Her lack of any repositioning power (even vayne has this) coupled with low range makes her rather difficult to use. Her ulti is really situational too, yes. And she doesn't massively outshine the other strong laners (graves corki ezreal) who have better repositioning power for teamfighting.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 23 2012 18:17 GMT
#263
On August 24 2012 03:11 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 01:04 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.

Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc?

She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better

Her steroid is pretty damn good, actually. Adds both AS and damage, and a healing debuff which is just gravy. Her lack of any repositioning power (even vayne has this) coupled with low range makes her rather difficult to use. Her ulti is really situational too, yes. And she doesn't massively outshine the other strong laners (graves corki ezreal) who have better repositioning power for teamfighting.

And I have been running MF/Nunu with my friend and we have won 100 percent of the time. The MS and AS boost is unbelievably strong and allows her to play a hyper-aggressive lane.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 23 2012 18:18 GMT
#264
On August 24 2012 03:17 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 03:11 sylverfyre wrote:
On August 24 2012 01:04 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.

Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc?

She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better

Her steroid is pretty damn good, actually. Adds both AS and damage, and a healing debuff which is just gravy. Her lack of any repositioning power (even vayne has this) coupled with low range makes her rather difficult to use. Her ulti is really situational too, yes. And she doesn't massively outshine the other strong laners (graves corki ezreal) who have better repositioning power for teamfighting.

And I have been running MF/Nunu with my friend and we have won 100 percent of the time. The MS and AS boost is unbelievably strong and allows her to play a hyper-aggressive lane.

MF Nunu is dumb strong, actually, if you're not expecting it.
It's your boy Guzma!
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 23 2012 18:30 GMT
#265
On August 24 2012 03:18 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 03:17 Shiragaku wrote:
On August 24 2012 03:11 sylverfyre wrote:
On August 24 2012 01:04 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.

Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc?

She's not as strong later compared to other adc. Lack of mobility, meh steroid, situational ulti. People pick her for her strong laning but she doesn't particularly significantly outshine say Graves or Corki in that regard anyways. People used to pick her to crush lanes with Taric mf combo, but graves and ez can do that just as well and scale better

Her steroid is pretty damn good, actually. Adds both AS and damage, and a healing debuff which is just gravy. Her lack of any repositioning power (even vayne has this) coupled with low range makes her rather difficult to use. Her ulti is really situational too, yes. And she doesn't massively outshine the other strong laners (graves corki ezreal) who have better repositioning power for teamfighting.

And I have been running MF/Nunu with my friend and we have won 100 percent of the time. The MS and AS boost is unbelievably strong and allows her to play a hyper-aggressive lane.

MF Nunu is dumb strong, actually, if you're not expecting it.

Awww...so are you saying it is good as a surprise factor?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 23 2012 18:43 GMT
#266
It sure surprised me the first time I went against it. You basically can't trade vs MF/Nunu at all, but at the same time, they can't really do much to stop most lanes from passively farming and being more useful than MF later in the game.
It's your boy Guzma!
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 23 2012 18:57 GMT
#267
On August 24 2012 03:43 Requizen wrote:
It sure surprised me the first time I went against it. You basically can't trade vs MF/Nunu at all, but at the same time, they can't really do much to stop most lanes from passively farming and being more useful than MF later in the game.

I am not sure about that, whenever there was a passive lane, I would always grin because we have to force the other two to either get zoned or get in bad trades.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
August 23 2012 21:46 GMT
#268
Is there another AD other than Corki that can consistently beat a Ez lane, regardless of the support champ you're playing with? Kind of bored of playing Corki every other game lol.

you cannot say "regardless of the support"
and no outtrading isnt really possible (the w is just so damn strong) kog/nunu can kinda outtrade at onepoint but the problem starts there when we hvae ezreal/sona, leona or taric which to really good harrass can oneshot you.
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 24 2012 01:23 GMT
#269
Is the Ez/Graves/Corki triumvirate close to being broken out of any time soon? Or should I ignore tournaments for this weekend?
Freeeeeeedom
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
August 24 2012 01:33 GMT
#270
On August 24 2012 10:23 cLutZ wrote:
Is the Ez/Graves/Corki triumvirate close to being broken out of any time soon? Or should I ignore tournaments for this weekend?

NEVER
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 02:01:31
August 24 2012 02:00 GMT
#271
you should exclude Graves from that hes not picked that often ^.^

not often still means more than all other ad carries together it sucks so hard atm to main ad (I mean corki/ezreal) it used to be the role which had the most viable champs but now not really ^.^
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 24 2012 02:52 GMT
#272
On August 24 2012 11:00 Ente wrote:
you should exclude Graves from that hes not picked that often ^.^

not often still means more than all other ad carries together it sucks so hard atm to main ad (I mean corki/ezreal) it used to be the role which had the most viable champs but now not really ^.^


I mean, hes picked pretty often, and seems to win a better % than ez.
Freeeeeeedom
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
August 24 2012 12:18 GMT
#273
http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=na&league=ranked&type=champion-popularity&range=weekly

Ezreal/graves are the two most popular by far. Ezreal seriously picked up around the pulsefire release and only dropped a bit since.
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
August 24 2012 12:38 GMT
#274
I mean, hes picked pretty often, and seems to win a better % than ez.

I really really really raelly dislike this winpercentage stuff for tournements it really comes to what teams prefer and what is popular in solo q doesnt really matter due to lower elo being slower to change stuff, you really rarely see graves at high elo atm (and when I see it im happy that I can pick kogmaw )
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 24 2012 14:28 GMT
#275
On August 24 2012 21:38 Ente wrote:
Show nested quote +
I mean, hes picked pretty often, and seems to win a better % than ez.

I really really really raelly dislike this winpercentage stuff for tournements it really comes to what teams prefer and what is popular in solo q doesnt really matter due to lower elo being slower to change stuff, you really rarely see graves at high elo atm (and when I see it im happy that I can pick kogmaw )


I still pick Kog, because, hell, I don't like the AD 3.
Freeeeeeedom
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 16:25:55
August 24 2012 21:49 GMT
#276
Speaking of AD prevalence, have some [mostly smurf] data.

[image loading]

Not included: Urgot x2, Twitch x1

Average Elo across all games included is 1557.
twitch.tv/cratonz
jcc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States472 Posts
August 25 2012 05:10 GMT
#277
Lol Craton, I love how MF sees more play than Kog at smurf levels
http://broukej.cz/lol-signatures/GGod_na_103_4_logo.png
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 25 2012 08:03 GMT
#278
On August 24 2012 00:49 Mondeezy wrote:
Why don't I ever see MF played, in solo que or competitive games? I'm debating between buying her and Kog'Maw, but I tend to lean toward champs with mobility so I was leaning towards her.

Is she just not as much of a beast as Vayne, Ezreal, etc?

She's received alot of nerfs from back when she used to be a hella strong champion imo.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
August 25 2012 10:53 GMT
#279
Wow, really nice guide! I found that guide really helpful, to get me up in elo, thank you very much. :-)
Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 25 2012 15:44 GMT
#280
On August 25 2012 06:49 Craton wrote:
Speaking of AD prevalence, have some [mostly smurf] data.

[image loading]

Not included: Urgot x2, Twitch x1

This makes me feel hipster whenever I play Cait. I'm ok with that.
It's your boy Guzma!
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