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Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
May 04 2012 04:11 GMT
#821
Just had a game as Ashe, I sniped a mf from bot tower to the middle mid tower when she was at our turret, her entire team left her there and she was stunned enough to take about 5 tower shots and die there from full health. Was pretty proud of myself then.
LOUD NOISES!!!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 04 2012 04:12 GMT
#822
On May 04 2012 13:11 Lorken wrote:
Just had a game as Ashe, I sniped a mf from bot tower to the middle mid tower when she was at our turret, her entire team left her there and she was stunned enough to take about 5 tower shots and die there from full health. Was pretty proud of myself then.

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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
May 04 2012 04:19 GMT
#823
So I haven't played in a few weeks. What's the consensus on Hecarim? Is he galloping his way into any ranked games anytime soon or is he going to cry in a corner?
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 04 2012 04:28 GMT
#824
Very rarely played but looks really bad from what I've seen.
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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 04:51:39
May 04 2012 04:41 GMT
#825
he feels clumsy from the one game i've played with him.

Q doesnt do much damage and the ramp up time is a dealbreaker when compared to something like skarner's Q which can actually slow, with easier rampup

W is an okay healing spell but doesnt particularly synergize with any of his other spells. plus its not quite a one point wonder

E is okay too

R is a nice aoe disable, probably his best spell

essentially doesnt have a passive. gives really negligible amounts of AD, taken away when you're slowed
cool beans
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 04 2012 04:48 GMT
#826
Seeing Monte play him just makes me think he's OP.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 04 2012 05:06 GMT
#827
Well to be honest Monte makes every champ look OP.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 05:12:03
May 04 2012 05:07 GMT
#828
Smash, I don't mean to *spectate* creep, but it's easy when you're featured

Corki just raped that teamfight.
It's your boy Guzma!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 04 2012 05:21 GMT
#829
On May 04 2012 12:18 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 12:15 Caphe wrote:
On May 04 2012 11:59 Cloud wrote:
So I just played with a guy that used some 3rd party program to help him time wards/buffs and help him last hit. Though the last hitting part didn't work so well at turret.

Dont know about the last hitting part. But a 3rd party to time buff/dragon time is wide spread in China. Like 70% of ranked players use it. Really annoying sometime, since at low level below 1400 people don't really time buff until this program surfaced and now they are counter jungling like pros -_-.


Do 70% of Chinese players even own their own gaming computers? I thought most people used Wan Ba's and couldn't install programs.

I don't know but at least in cities people own PC, but still go to PC bangs if they are student since its nice to play together with your friend.
These programs got an "ok" from Tencent so they got installed in PC bangs too.
Terran
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
May 04 2012 05:23 GMT
#830
can i get some clarification on those hacks.

1. do they only reveal 'known' information? like, will the ward placement only be shown if you actually saw the ward being placed?

2. do you have a source on the okaying from tencent?

3. are they allowed in tournaments?

thanks!
cool beans
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
May 04 2012 05:24 GMT
#831
On May 04 2012 13:19 Phrost wrote:
So I haven't played in a few weeks. What's the consensus on Hecarim? Is he galloping his way into any ranked games anytime soon or is he going to cry in a corner?


He honestly doesn't do anything that skarner doesn't do already. Jungling, he runs around spamming Q on mobs, he relies on his E vs skarner with shurelya's to run in, cc the enemy and get a successful gank off. Like skarner, once he gets trinity/sheen, he does tons of damage and it's impossible to run away. Unlike skarner, it's much harder to pick a single person out of a teamfight. You blindly ulti in and hope that they scatter with the AD/AP carry running towards your team.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 04 2012 05:32 GMT
#832
On May 04 2012 14:07 Requizen wrote:
Smash, I don't mean to *spectate* creep, but it's easy when you're featured

Corki just raped that teamfight.


Embrace the creep, man, embrace the creep. Numbers still hasn't added me but he cannot stop me from mashing F5 while he's online until I GET HIM

Ok now I'm creeping myself out. Don't embrace it that much.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 05:34:28
May 04 2012 05:34 GMT
#833
he seems like a pretty reasonable laner, I tried him a few games with defense masteries and max W first and I felt really hard to kill. Late game his passive gives like 75 ad in bursts and an ok amount otherwise, it's not so bad. Don't know if he's 'good' but he seems playable
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 05:51:57
May 04 2012 05:48 GMT
#834
On May 04 2012 14:34 UniversalSnip wrote:
he seems like a pretty reasonable laner, I tried him a few games with defense masteries and max W first and I felt really hard to kill. Late game his passive gives like 75 ad in bursts and an ok amount otherwise, it's not so bad. Don't know if he's 'good' but he seems playable


Haven't tried him top at all so theorycraft only, but he has sustain, a primary source of damage that isn't an auto and does half damage to creeps (so he won't push the lane hard), solid gank support at 6, and a speed boost to escape ganks. I can't imagine he is a terrible top laner when his kit has almost everything you look for up there, assuming he scales into lategame decently. Even if he is "bad" I am sure you could make him work. He may be good though, I really have no idea.

Edit:
I just know I played skarner and hec for the first time in the last couple weeks, both on dominion. Skarner was a heck (pun intended) of a lot more fun imo. Can't say why when the two champs play so similarly.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 04 2012 06:39 GMT
#835
On May 04 2012 14:06 MooMooMugi wrote:
Well to be honest Monte makes every champ look OP.


I make Lee Sin and Shaco look like they should be buffed.

That said, Hecarim's a lot better than people give him credit. His mid-game is so stupidly good because of his W and Q spam, he's tanky without many real tank items so long as you position yourself well. His level 6 ganks are also utterly stupid.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 04 2012 07:08 GMT
#836
Guys I might have a gift, everytime i spectate a friend's game his team won, every single time.
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Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
May 04 2012 07:25 GMT
#837
On May 04 2012 12:50 UniversalSnip wrote:
Man, I wanna watch this tourney match but twitch is lagging too hard. Wish would somebody would restream it on own3d... haha.


Its the opposite for me. For some reason own3D stream don't work for me (I load the page, and after 10seconds it just stops and no data is being downloaded) while twitch streams run fine.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 04 2012 07:58 GMT
#838
Random question, since a couple of people I play normals with were discussing it and since my expertise is more mid/jungle than it is bottom: What bottom lanes do well against soraka/graves? Does anybody really stop it, or does it become a passive farmfest under the tower and you hope for ganks?
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
May 04 2012 08:15 GMT
#839
On May 04 2012 14:48 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 14:34 UniversalSnip wrote:
he seems like a pretty reasonable laner, I tried him a few games with defense masteries and max W first and I felt really hard to kill. Late game his passive gives like 75 ad in bursts and an ok amount otherwise, it's not so bad. Don't know if he's 'good' but he seems playable


Haven't tried him top at all so theorycraft only, but he has sustain, a primary source of damage that isn't an auto and does half damage to creeps (so he won't push the lane hard), solid gank support at 6, and a speed boost to escape ganks. I can't imagine he is a terrible top laner when his kit has almost everything you look for up there, assuming he scales into lategame decently. Even if he is "bad" I am sure you could make him work. He may be good though, I really have no idea.

Edit:
I just know I played skarner and hec for the first time in the last couple weeks, both on dominion. Skarner was a heck (pun intended) of a lot more fun imo. Can't say why when the two champs play so similarly.


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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 04 2012 08:16 GMT
#840
On May 04 2012 16:58 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Random question, since a couple of people I play normals with were discussing it and since my expertise is more mid/jungle than it is bottom: What bottom lanes do well against soraka/graves? Does anybody really stop it, or does it become a passive farmfest under the tower and you hope for ganks?


Graves/Soraka usually just keeps lane pushed to your tower. You usually hope for ganks lol. I could see like Urgot maybe being able to do ok and harass Graves down, but I feel like Graves does pretty well against Urgot so that might not be ideal. You can also run Ignite and run like Leona plus some other strong early game AD carry in hopes of gibbing Soraka early on.

It's a really stupid lane. Other than trying to run something to kill Soraka as they push or just having your jungler gank I think it's almost always a passive farm lane under you tower as you said.
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