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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 21:17:56
May 15 2012 21:17 GMT
#3381
At this point I think I'm just playing bot games to troll people into thinking that I take crittlesticks seriously It's actually amazing how easy it was to argue for crittlesticks. I think LoL lends itself well to BS.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 15 2012 21:18 GMT
#3382
On May 16 2012 06:17 Slaughter wrote:
Clg na or eu are.they playing?


If it's the aAa match, it's against CLG.eu
derp
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 15 2012 21:23 GMT
#3383
YEA

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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 15 2012 21:26 GMT
#3384
On May 16 2012 06:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
YEA

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Yar, I played with aphromoo smurf earlier. Was fairly entertaining.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
May 15 2012 21:42 GMT
#3385
On May 16 2012 05:09 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 05:00 Alaric wrote:
Mid or top? And AP Kennen I guess.

Top, and AP Kennen, yeah.
I have played the matchup today and asked a friend (decent Kennen player, but a LITTLE bit of a weaker player than myself) to play it a couple of times and unless the Kennen is prepared and just farms from max distance, it seems like Nautilus is easily able to abuse the length of the lane to bully Kennen around. There comes a point where he can instaclear waves to harass Kennen, and once he drops below 65-70% and you're at least level 7 and have ignite and ult up, it's pretty much a guaranteed kill if you don't mess up. I don't know man, maybe it's just me, but I really fell in love with Naut today.

Also, I see what he'd bring to the table mid, but so far I don't really see him replacing a real AP carry. Maybe if you run Kennen, Vlad or Rumble top and have a suiting jungler, sure. I would not like to have him as my main carry, though.


Yeah, destroyed a Kennen top today as Naut, which I didn't expect - had queued a blink pick normal with an old friend and had hedged bets with 0/21/9 (both MR and armor etc) and Armor/Mpen/Armor/Mres per level runes, started cloth/ward/two pots + waiting for the third since they had a jungle Panth and my spider-senses told me he'd want to L2 gank top with red (which he did). Early levels I didn't do much apart from last hit, but the armor runes + cloth helped shrug off his autoattack harrass, and once you have your ult, you can murder him in lane, usually - you can quickly destroy the minion wave with your AOE so he can't Lightning Rush through it to creep-block your Dredge Line; point-blank Depth Charge while Lightning Rush is down lets you get in a bunch of Titan's Wrath-empowered attacks and a Riptide or two. Usual HoG/Philo/Mercs into Wit's End/Glacial Shroud etc. But yeah, was glad of the early ward to let me confidently go for every CS early since Naut's early levels are kind've frail with his cooldowns and shield strength; Kennen wasn't able to punish it enough without jungler intervention before I got too tanky to deal with.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 21:42:59
May 15 2012 21:42 GMT
#3386
We heard about it... but the question in the post below is still unanswered. So, Soniv, did your strat work?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 21:45:08
May 15 2012 21:44 GMT
#3387
On May 16 2012 06:23 zulu_nation8 wrote:
YEA
+ Show Spoiler +


[image loading]

Need to post in loci's thread!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305322
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
May 15 2012 21:49 GMT
#3388
wait... if TSM absorbed EG, why not put Salce onto the A team -_-
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 21:54:15
May 15 2012 21:53 GMT
#3389
When the owner of the team is the current mid player on the A team, it's unlikely to happen.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
May 15 2012 21:56 GMT
#3390
On May 16 2012 04:32 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 02:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Hecarim buff? Lol, inc Monte domination


inc Platinum Monte

I'll honestly be surprised if Hecarim becomes popular with this buff. He's not face roll enough, and his best builds are too different from other junglers for most players think to use them.

What do u build on hecarim??
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
May 15 2012 21:59 GMT
#3391
On May 16 2012 06:49 CeriseCherries wrote:
wait... if TSM absorbed EG, why not put Salce onto the A team -_-


that's not my understanding of how it worked out. I don't think TSM acquired EG for the purpose of mixing and matching players, and TBH i feel like calling them TSM B team would be a misnomer. From my understanding (aka. citation needed), it seems more like TSM is sponsoring EG, rather than actually 'absorbing' them. It seems to be more like the CLG eu and na dynamic, except that these two teams just happen to be on the same server.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 22:04:25
May 15 2012 22:01 GMT
#3392
On May 16 2012 06:42 Alaric wrote:
We heard about it... but the question in the post below is still unanswered. So, Soniv, did your strat work?


Loooooool I think I ended 7/3/3 or something like that. Ali ganked my lane before I hit 2, and enemy mundo walked in and pooped on me =(

But yeah, we won
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
May 15 2012 22:02 GMT
#3393
How do you play Naut top when people harass you constantly when shield is down, and when they have enough damage to go through your shield? I really like jungle naut, and wouldn't mind playing him top in solo que since I don't play many champions that can top(I just play irelia, vlad and I'm really not amazing with either).. maybe I should try him first before making assumptions..

Are there some matchups you just can't pick him in to.. or should you be maxing something other than shield?

I have seen 2 nauts go mid in my games and just demolish their mid... it was pretty disgusting, I think they both went abyssal first. Is this just one of those things where you can counter pick certain champs? Or is it lack of experience from playing vs nautilus cause were just at 1550 elo or w/e

Maybe this is the wrong thread for this -_-

Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
May 15 2012 22:13 GMT
#3394
http://timeline.leagueoflegends.com/

Just found this, really cool to look at while d3 is down lol
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 22:17:22
May 15 2012 22:16 GMT
#3395
On May 16 2012 07:02 BlueBird. wrote:
How do you play Naut top when people harass you constantly when shield is down, and when they have enough damage to go through your shield? I really like jungle naut, and wouldn't mind playing him top in solo que since I don't play many champions that can top(I just play irelia, vlad and I'm really not amazing with either).. maybe I should try him first before making assumptions..

Are there some matchups you just can't pick him in to.. or should you be maxing something other than shield?

I have seen 2 nauts go mid in my games and just demolish their mid... it was pretty disgusting, I think they both went abyssal first. Is this just one of those things where you can counter pick certain champs? Or is it lack of experience from playing vs nautilus cause were just at 1550 elo or w/e

Maybe this is the wrong thread for this -_-


You could say the same about a bunch of top laners. Jarv, Riven, Jax...
The thing is, if you are able to farm and not matched against something disgusting like Olaf or Renek, you become a BEAST once you hit 6. I don't like the GP10 route tho, I go 2 Doran's->Rylai's->Situational. So far, W>E>Q works really well. Not sure what to say - try it out and report, I honestly think he has a lot of potential against Kennen and Rumble.

Also, his teamfighting is disgusting. Had Mao jungle, Blitz support, Urgot, Annie, Naut top today. Poor enemy carries.
currently rooting for myself.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
May 15 2012 22:29 GMT
#3396
On May 16 2012 07:16 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 07:02 BlueBird. wrote:
How do you play Naut top when people harass you constantly when shield is down, and when they have enough damage to go through your shield? I really like jungle naut, and wouldn't mind playing him top in solo que since I don't play many champions that can top(I just play irelia, vlad and I'm really not amazing with either).. maybe I should try him first before making assumptions..

Are there some matchups you just can't pick him in to.. or should you be maxing something other than shield?

I have seen 2 nauts go mid in my games and just demolish their mid... it was pretty disgusting, I think they both went abyssal first. Is this just one of those things where you can counter pick certain champs? Or is it lack of experience from playing vs nautilus cause were just at 1550 elo or w/e

Maybe this is the wrong thread for this -_-


You could say the same about a bunch of top laners. Jarv, Riven, Jax...
The thing is, if you are able to farm and not matched against something disgusting like Olaf or Renek, you become a BEAST once you hit 6. I don't like the GP10 route tho, I go 2 Doran's->Rylai's->Situational. So far, W>E>Q works really well. Not sure what to say - try it out and report, I honestly think he has a lot of potential against Kennen and Rumble.

Also, his teamfighting is disgusting. Had Mao jungle, Blitz support, Urgot, Annie, Naut top today. Poor enemy carries.


all 3 of those champs are high-mobility with reliable gap-closers.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 15 2012 22:44 GMT
#3397
On May 16 2012 06:56 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 04:32 Seuss wrote:
On May 16 2012 02:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Hecarim buff? Lol, inc Monte domination


inc Platinum Monte

I'll honestly be surprised if Hecarim becomes popular with this buff. He's not face roll enough, and his best builds are too different from other junglers for most players think to use them.

What do u build on hecarim??


I start boots and then build Philo -> Avarice -> Brutalizer. Typically I finish Shurelya's + Ghostblade before building items like Aegis, Hexdrinker, and Warden's Mail for resists, but the exact order and items obviously depends heavily on the state and nature of the game.

I can go into more detail if you want, but the basic take away is that Wriggle's is terrible on Hecarim, CDR items and resist items are boss.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
May 15 2012 23:09 GMT
#3398
On May 16 2012 07:29 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 07:16 Shiv. wrote:
On May 16 2012 07:02 BlueBird. wrote:
How do you play Naut top when people harass you constantly when shield is down, and when they have enough damage to go through your shield? I really like jungle naut, and wouldn't mind playing him top in solo que since I don't play many champions that can top(I just play irelia, vlad and I'm really not amazing with either).. maybe I should try him first before making assumptions..

Are there some matchups you just can't pick him in to.. or should you be maxing something other than shield?

I have seen 2 nauts go mid in my games and just demolish their mid... it was pretty disgusting, I think they both went abyssal first. Is this just one of those things where you can counter pick certain champs? Or is it lack of experience from playing vs nautilus cause were just at 1550 elo or w/e

Maybe this is the wrong thread for this -_-


You could say the same about a bunch of top laners. Jarv, Riven, Jax...
The thing is, if you are able to farm and not matched against something disgusting like Olaf or Renek, you become a BEAST once you hit 6. I don't like the GP10 route tho, I go 2 Doran's->Rylai's->Situational. So far, W>E>Q works really well. Not sure what to say - try it out and report, I honestly think he has a lot of potential against Kennen and Rumble.

Also, his teamfighting is disgusting. Had Mao jungle, Blitz support, Urgot, Annie, Naut top today. Poor enemy carries.


all 3 of those champs are high-mobility with reliable gap-closers.

With the exception of Riven, none of those gap closers matter when it comes to avoiding harass on a constant basis.
currently rooting for myself.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 15 2012 23:30 GMT
#3399
I know some people max E first for reliable waveclear, as W as a bigger cd, and if your opponent has a good harass/poke he'll burst your shield as soon as you activate it to disrupt your farming (also, remember that you're shit pre-3 because of the shield value on a level 1 W).
Why rylai, tho? W doesn't apply it, E is AoE and already slows, and Q and R cc their targets for longer than the rylai's slow affect them. I don't like lichbane either because of his long cd and the bursty nature of his combo (he won't intersped aa during it like Lux does).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 16 2012 00:20 GMT
#3400
Yea iunno..Rylais sounds pretty awful on Naut. If you're laning him you might as well get RoA. You get more hp, mana, and equal amounts of AP off of RoA. Rylais is nice for the slow, but that slow's wasted on Naut.
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