On May 15 2012 21:26 OutlaW- wrote:
Either people in normals suck balls or nautilus is seriously overpowered
Either people in normals suck balls or nautilus is seriously overpowered
i rock with him as a support love that dude
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
May 15 2012 14:03 GMT
#3281
On May 15 2012 21:26 OutlaW- wrote: Either people in normals suck balls or nautilus is seriously overpowered i rock with him as a support love that dude | ||
ManyCookies
1164 Posts
May 15 2012 14:03 GMT
#3282
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Zoesan
Switzerland141 Posts
May 15 2012 14:04 GMT
#3283
Holy shit! | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
May 15 2012 14:18 GMT
#3284
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
May 15 2012 14:19 GMT
#3285
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
May 15 2012 14:21 GMT
#3286
On May 15 2012 23:03 Chexx wrote: Show nested quote + On May 15 2012 21:26 OutlaW- wrote: Either people in normals suck balls or nautilus is seriously overpowered i rock with him as a support love that dude Did you play a game as Leona today and totally carried with Corki bot? Sorry for OT, maybe to contribute something: Nautilus is sort of like a combination of Warwick, Sejuani and Leona, as in he has ridiculous amounts of CC and post 6, there's no reason NOT to get a kill at almost any given point in time if his ultimate is up. | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
May 15 2012 14:27 GMT
#3287
On May 15 2012 23:21 Shiv. wrote: Show nested quote + On May 15 2012 23:03 Chexx wrote: On May 15 2012 21:26 OutlaW- wrote: Either people in normals suck balls or nautilus is seriously overpowered i rock with him as a support love that dude Did you play a game as Leona today and totally carried with Corki bot? Sorry for OT, maybe to contribute something: Nautilus is sort of like a combination of Warwick, Sejuani and Leona, as in he has ridiculous amounts of CC and post 6, there's no reason NOT to get a kill at almost any given point in time if his ultimate is up. nope today i only played nautilus. I play on the korean server only. nautilus played as a support can still kill ad carries, if you could deny their farm a little | ||
ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 15 2012 14:36 GMT
#3288
On May 15 2012 23:19 spinesheath wrote: Froggen's builds should be a good indicator of Anivia being OP. I think its more an indication that froggen is just a sick anivia player. Hes mastering orianna now aswell, looking pretty good so far. | ||
spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
May 15 2012 14:41 GMT
#3289
On May 15 2012 23:36 ihasaKAROT wrote: Show nested quote + On May 15 2012 23:19 spinesheath wrote: Froggen's builds should be a good indicator of Anivia being OP. I think its more an indication that froggen is just a sick anivia player. Hes mastering orianna now aswell, looking pretty good so far. Any other players who can consistently build that kind of rubbish and still dominate with their respective main champion? If no, then either Froggen is 1000 times better than everyone else, or Anivia is OP. Doesn't matter that she's hard to play. | ||
JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
May 15 2012 14:54 GMT
#3290
On May 15 2012 23:41 spinesheath wrote: Show nested quote + On May 15 2012 23:36 ihasaKAROT wrote: On May 15 2012 23:19 spinesheath wrote: Froggen's builds should be a good indicator of Anivia being OP. I think its more an indication that froggen is just a sick anivia player. Hes mastering orianna now aswell, looking pretty good so far. Any other players who can consistently build that kind of rubbish and still dominate with their respective main champion? If no, then either Froggen is 1000 times better than everyone else, or Anivia is OP. Doesn't matter that she's hard to play. Anivia's control in the jungle lategame is so sick too. | ||
Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
May 15 2012 15:17 GMT
#3291
1:1 scaling on an aoe stun (if you can get the double hit) 1:1 scaling on a point and click nuke (if you can link it with something else) 20% aoe attackspeed debuff/ .25 scaling dot. a unique form of zone control (Riot has said they will never release anything else like it due to potential trolling) A GA passive that restores 100% of health on death. Compared to the flat 750 from GA. | ||
Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
May 15 2012 15:25 GMT
#3292
On May 16 2012 00:17 Sabin010 wrote: Look at what Anivia has. 1:1 scaling on an aoe stun (if you can get the double hit) 1:1 scaling on a point and click nuke (if you can link it with something else) 20% aoe attackspeed debuff/ .25 scaling dot. a unique form of zone control (Riot has said they will never release anything else like it due to potential trolling) A GA passive that restores 100% of health on death. firstly, trundle exists so riot has released similar abilities that provide the same level of zone control in the jungle secondly, that GA passive is also a 5 second stun to anivia in which she has negative armor/mr and is completely useless without her team to help her reliance on the chill for E to get double damage since the chill duration was nerfed means that anything with a blink is capable of blinking away and the chill ending before the projectile collides resulting in about 0 damage On May 15 2012 23:41 spinesheath wrote: Show nested quote + On May 15 2012 23:36 ihasaKAROT wrote: On May 15 2012 23:19 spinesheath wrote: Froggen's builds should be a good indicator of Anivia being OP. I think its more an indication that froggen is just a sick anivia player. Hes mastering orianna now aswell, looking pretty good so far. Any other players who can consistently build that kind of rubbish and still dominate with their respective main champion? If no, then either Froggen is 1000 times better than everyone else, or Anivia is OP. Doesn't matter that she's hard to play. chu8 does this with maokai, there are multiple instances of things like warmogs cass and other crazy shit that people do at that people do at high elo that doesn't make sense and works for them. hotshotgg cho'gath comes to mind as well | ||
deskscaress
United States399 Posts
May 15 2012 15:28 GMT
#3293
On May 16 2012 00:25 Frolossus wrote: Show nested quote + On May 16 2012 00:17 Sabin010 wrote: Look at what Anivia has. 1:1 scaling on an aoe stun (if you can get the double hit) 1:1 scaling on a point and click nuke (if you can link it with something else) 20% aoe attackspeed debuff/ .25 scaling dot. a unique form of zone control (Riot has said they will never release anything else like it due to potential trolling) A GA passive that restores 100% of health on death. firstly, trundle exists so riot has released similar abilities that provide the same level of zone control in the jungle secondly, that GA passive is also a 5 second stun to anivia in which she has negative armor/mr and is completely useless without her team to help her reliance on the chill for E to get double damage since the chill duration was nerfed means that anything with a blink is capable of blinking away and the chill ending before the projectile collides resulting in about 0 damage I believe Anivia only loses armor and MR for the first level or two of her passive. By the midgame, she GAINS resists while in egg form, iirc. | ||
ishboh
United States954 Posts
May 15 2012 15:29 GMT
#3294
On May 16 2012 00:25 Frolossus wrote: firstly, trundle exists so riot has released similar abilities that provide the same level of zone control in the jungle secondly, that GA passive is also a 5 second stun to anivia in which she has negative armor/mr and is completely useless without her team to help her whereas a GA will-as everyone knows- respawn you instantaneously at a safe location. *eyeroll* if you die with a GA and your team isn't there to help you, you are just as boned as if you get egged as anivia. | ||
Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
May 15 2012 15:32 GMT
#3295
Edit: On Anivia I like to lead with e then r before the particle connects, if they want to flash away I'm cool with that. If the double damage will hit because the r is applied before the e hits, and then you can q stun wall and e will be off cd for another double damage proc. The whole combo does like 4 seconds of ultmate ticks 2 1:1 e's and a 1:1 q, so with 200 ap and lvl 5 e its 1500 damage just from the scaling and e base damage. That's with out resistance, or the q/r's base damage. | ||
HazMat
United States17077 Posts
May 15 2012 15:34 GMT
#3296
On May 15 2012 23:41 spinesheath wrote: Show nested quote + On May 15 2012 23:36 ihasaKAROT wrote: On May 15 2012 23:19 spinesheath wrote: Froggen's builds should be a good indicator of Anivia being OP. I think its more an indication that froggen is just a sick anivia player. Hes mastering orianna now aswell, looking pretty good so far. Any other players who can consistently build that kind of rubbish and still dominate with their respective main champion? If no, then either Froggen is 1000 times better than everyone else, or Anivia is OP. Doesn't matter that she's hard to play. Voy Lee Sin. | ||
spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
May 15 2012 15:34 GMT
#3297
On May 16 2012 00:25 Frolossus wrote: chu8 does this with maokai, there are multiple instances of things like warmogs cass and other crazy shit that people do at that people do at high elo that doesn't make sense and works for them. hotshotgg cho'gath comes to mind as well Warmog's Cass and Hotshot's Cho builds all make sense. Cass because she has ridiculous base damage on extremely low cooldowns; she can afford to build tanky because she still deals tons of damage. And HSGG's Cho... not sure what you see him do that would not make any sense... No idea what chu8's Maokai is. On May 16 2012 00:34 HazMat wrote: Show nested quote + On May 15 2012 23:41 spinesheath wrote: On May 15 2012 23:36 ihasaKAROT wrote: On May 15 2012 23:19 spinesheath wrote: Froggen's builds should be a good indicator of Anivia being OP. I think its more an indication that froggen is just a sick anivia player. Hes mastering orianna now aswell, looking pretty good so far. Any other players who can consistently build that kind of rubbish and still dominate with their respective main champion? If no, then either Froggen is 1000 times better than everyone else, or Anivia is OP. Doesn't matter that she's hard to play. Voy Lee Sin. That's because Lee Sin is an asshole and OP too. Also what does he build that's as ridiculous as Froggen's Anivia builds? | ||
Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
May 15 2012 15:36 GMT
#3298
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
May 15 2012 15:36 GMT
#3299
On May 16 2012 00:28 deskscaress wrote: Show nested quote + On May 16 2012 00:25 Frolossus wrote: On May 16 2012 00:17 Sabin010 wrote: Look at what Anivia has. 1:1 scaling on an aoe stun (if you can get the double hit) 1:1 scaling on a point and click nuke (if you can link it with something else) 20% aoe attackspeed debuff/ .25 scaling dot. a unique form of zone control (Riot has said they will never release anything else like it due to potential trolling) A GA passive that restores 100% of health on death. firstly, trundle exists so riot has released similar abilities that provide the same level of zone control in the jungle secondly, that GA passive is also a 5 second stun to anivia in which she has negative armor/mr and is completely useless without her team to help her reliance on the chill for E to get double damage since the chill duration was nerfed means that anything with a blink is capable of blinking away and the chill ending before the projectile collides resulting in about 0 damage I believe Anivia only loses armor and MR for the first level or two of her passive. By the midgame, she GAINS resists while in egg form, iirc. she only gains up to 20 armor and that is at the highest level " Upon dying, Anivia will revert into an egg and will get an armor and magic resistance modifier of -40 / -25 / -10 / +5 / +20." GA still makes you untargetable during the respawn where you can kill anivia's egg all you want during that whole period this makes her extremely weak if she gets egged in any sort of AoE spell and it has the 5 minute cooldown over GA its not nearly as good as people make it out to be | ||
jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
May 15 2012 15:56 GMT
#3300
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