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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
May 11 2012 22:22 GMT
#2541
On May 12 2012 07:14 UniversalSnip wrote:
yeah I can. Regi's death was like 1% relevant, chaox's death was like 40% relevant. They had completely different impacts on the game.

my bad, i didn't realize you had run the math
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 22:25:48
May 11 2012 22:25 GMT
#2542
TSM is one of the very few teams that are cocky enough to not ban Shen on a regular basis for what they now got punished by the russian overlords. I don't mistrust their team comp and pick / ban capabilities, but maybe they were too confident with thinking they could handle Shen in the hands of M5.

There is a reason he is banned if you are not first pick and from what I remember he has build up a pretty high win ratio over the last competitive tournaments.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 11 2012 22:33 GMT
#2543
why hasn't genja finished all of his items yet on kog?
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
May 11 2012 22:56 GMT
#2544
On May 12 2012 07:25 little fancy wrote:
TSM is one of the very few teams that are cocky enough to not ban Shen on a regular basis for what they now got punished by the russian overlords. I don't mistrust their team comp and pick / ban capabilities, but maybe they were too confident with thinking they could handle Shen in the hands of M5.

There is a reason he is banned if you are not first pick and from what I remember he has build up a pretty high win ratio over the last competitive tournaments.
Link to vods please? i looked for it on youtube but couldnt find and got frustrated :3
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
May 11 2012 22:59 GMT
#2545
On May 12 2012 07:56 storkfan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 07:25 little fancy wrote:
TSM is one of the very few teams that are cocky enough to not ban Shen on a regular basis for what they now got punished by the russian overlords. I don't mistrust their team comp and pick / ban capabilities, but maybe they were too confident with thinking they could handle Shen in the hands of M5.

There is a reason he is banned if you are not first pick and from what I remember he has build up a pretty high win ratio over the last competitive tournaments.
Link to vods please? i looked for it on youtube but couldnt find and got frustrated :3

http://www.twitch.tv/kaostv/b/317865305
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
May 11 2012 23:14 GMT
#2546
Man, what do you even use the gold for once you're up to 500 cs? My builds are usually done when I start getting up around 300 (granted, it takes a lot more time for me to get to that point than the pros). Do you just start selling your stuff and like switch from AD to AP or armor to mres (obv depending on your champion) based on what the other team is building?
whole lies with a half smile
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 23:18:15
May 11 2012 23:17 GMT
#2547
On May 12 2012 08:14 Node wrote:
Man, what do you even use the gold for once you're up to 500 cs? My builds are usually done when I start getting up around 300 (granted, it takes a lot more time for me to get to that point than the pros). Do you just start selling your stuff and like switch from AD to AP or armor to mres (obv depending on your champion) based on what the other team is building?


you triple pot(constantly) + oracles, maybe sell a middle of the road item like wits end for some 4k item or what not. really games don't go far enough for this to happen usually, and if they do its rare your farming as hard as that shen was. At a certain point its better to just be going for objectives, or helping your teammates farm some better items. I mean you can get your support farmed up to 6 items in theory but it's probably never gonna happen.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
May 11 2012 23:17 GMT
#2548
On May 12 2012 08:14 Node wrote:
Man, what do you even use the gold for once you're up to 500 cs? My builds are usually done when I start getting up around 300 (granted, it takes a lot more time for me to get to that point than the pros). Do you just start selling your stuff and like switch from AD to AP or armor to mres (obv depending on your champion) based on what the other team is building?


most pro games have less kills than our games

when i max out my build, i just spam elixirs and such
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
May 11 2012 23:23 GMT
#2549
You're fully built before 500 CS, even in those games. You generally spam triple elixirs and maybe Oracle's, consider selling boots for another PD, wriggles for a BT, trading GA for something when CD is down and then rebuying it when it's back, etc.
twitch.tv/cratonz
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 11 2012 23:51 GMT
#2550
On May 12 2012 08:14 Node wrote:
Man, what do you even use the gold for once you're up to 500 cs? My builds are usually done when I start getting up around 300 (granted, it takes a lot more time for me to get to that point than the pros). Do you just start selling your stuff and like switch from AD to AP or armor to mres (obv depending on your champion) based on what the other team is building?

I stop farming before that point and let everyone else catch up.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 11 2012 23:54 GMT
#2551
On May 11 2012 23:38 N3rV[Green] wrote:
When I asked somebody to explain what they meant they gave this example. "Vayne counters Cait cause she can tumble and dodge caits revolver, so cait will never land it on her."


LOOOOL.

I enjoyed that. Vayne countering Cait in lane... Lol, yeah, i wouldn't take advice on LoL from that person.

If Vayne ever hits Caitlyn, Caitlyn is doing it very wrong.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 11 2012 23:58 GMT
#2552
Thats like saying Master Yi beats Malphite, its just wrong
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 12 2012 00:01 GMT
#2553
I wish you could fucking unbuy a champ

I'm playing normals and just randomlocking and then jungling whatever I get....but then I get Zilean....fuck Zilean I hate that champ.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 12 2012 00:02 GMT
#2554
I dunno... I guess Vayne could win if Caitlyn never auto attacked...
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 00:04:10
May 12 2012 00:03 GMT
#2555
On May 12 2012 08:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
Thats like saying Master Yi beats Malphite, its just wrong


your skills are inferior
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 12 2012 00:11 GMT
#2556
On May 12 2012 09:03 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 08:58 MooMooMugi wrote:
Thats like saying Master Yi beats Malphite, its just wrong


your skills are inferior

Maybe because I haven't tried stacking doubleswords on him, that must be the secret to beating him
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
May 12 2012 00:12 GMT
#2557
No. Malphite has so much armor that building AD isn't effective. The way to do this is to build attack speed, because armor doesn't lower it.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 12 2012 00:13 GMT
#2558
On May 12 2012 09:12 OutlaW- wrote:
No. Malphite has so much armor that building AD isn't effective. The way to do this is to build attack speed, because armor doesn't lower it.


If you have less than five Zeals you doing it wrong, imo.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 12 2012 00:16 GMT
#2559
what has more swords, 2 pds or 4 zeals?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 00:23:03
May 12 2012 00:19 GMT
#2560
On May 12 2012 05:08 0123456789 wrote:
Chinese people don't know how to play basketball. I'm not saying 1v1 is bad but 1v1 is not like shooting 3 pointers.

Well, you kind of did, and then you ninja-edited.

On May 12 2012 05:50 0123456789 wrote:
Also drilling is better for training mechanics. 1v1'ing, sure it helps, but will never be as good as actually playing the game. In a 1v1 environment so many factors are excluded, that are included in a real game, and you can play in a way where you are not punished.

Obviously a well-balanced training regimen will have an appropriate balance between drilling fundamentals, and applying them to a complete game.

The problem is that right now the training regimen for most NA teams is all pickup games and no drilling. There's no balance--it's just heavily skewed toward a lack of drilling, which in the long run will be detrimental to the skill level of NA play.
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