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[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 97

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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 13:24:55
March 09 2012 13:23 GMT
#1921
On March 09 2012 19:26 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 19:14 JackDino wrote:
On March 09 2012 18:23 iCanada wrote:
On March 09 2012 17:26 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
wow, I just bought Yorick and holy shit, he's such a gay-ass champion.


Isn't it beautiful? Spam the skills to last hit and do the pro harrassing.

^_^

Well, let me rephrase... it is beautiful because no one really knows this and you cn abuse him to win any lane you want really.

<_<

Everyone knows yorick is gay and abusive.


Okay, maybe it is less of an ignorance and more of a no one plays Yorick for whatever reason.

Still... <3 Yorick.

Yorick has some problems, mainly the fact that his laning is actually very counterable and he is forced to push and that he tends to be significantly weaker in the lategame if he doesn't completely decimate the lane, oh and defensive masteries are good vs him. Most of this is negated by maxing Q first so that you can repeatedly kill your opponent but luckily no one does that.


Oh yeah, Riven's pretty tough. Her shield makes your ghoul harrass completely useless and at lvl 6 she can kill you if you go melee a minion.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
March 09 2012 13:46 GMT
#1922
On March 09 2012 21:41 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 20:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Nobody beats Yorick in lane if Yorick is competent after the removal of crit mastery. Junglers are gamechangers, though.

I beat a Yorick with shen today. QW to victory. I think he was just expecting to win easily, he kept pushing really hard but shen can farm really well under turret and then taunt harass usually let me come out ahead.


I'm pretty sure that shouldn't work. Both ghouls outrange Vorpal Blade and seeing as one of them slows, you should never get in range to chuck a Blade unless Yorick wants you to. You will lose every trade that happens in melee range seeing as he has 3 ghouls hitting you and better AD and all you have is Q+Ki Strike, and then he's going to heal back up much faster than you do. It sounds like he was really dumb and letting you taunt him under the turret?
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 09 2012 15:58 GMT
#1923
On March 09 2012 22:23 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 19:26 iCanada wrote:
On March 09 2012 19:14 JackDino wrote:
On March 09 2012 18:23 iCanada wrote:
On March 09 2012 17:26 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
wow, I just bought Yorick and holy shit, he's such a gay-ass champion.


Isn't it beautiful? Spam the skills to last hit and do the pro harrassing.

^_^

Well, let me rephrase... it is beautiful because no one really knows this and you cn abuse him to win any lane you want really.

<_<

Everyone knows yorick is gay and abusive.


Okay, maybe it is less of an ignorance and more of a no one plays Yorick for whatever reason.

Still... <3 Yorick.

Yorick has some problems, mainly the fact that his laning is actually very counterable and he is forced to push and that he tends to be significantly weaker in the lategame if he doesn't completely decimate the lane, oh and defensive masteries are good vs him. Most of this is negated by maxing Q first so that you can repeatedly kill your opponent but luckily no one does that.


Oh yeah, Riven's pretty tough. Her shield makes your ghoul harrass completely useless and at lvl 6 she can kill you if you go melee a minion.


actually yorick's lategame strength is largely gated by how strong your range-ad is, which may/may not have something to do with the amount he's played. Yes, his ult can be strong on himself if he's fed/farmed, but even if you do shit earlygame, if your range-ad is on par or doing exceedingly well, yorick's lategame is godlike.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 09 2012 16:03 GMT
#1924
And people underestimate yorick lategame even without the ranged ad. You get to build stupidly tanky AND get free damage reduction on top of that, and since you typically get some form of ad anyway your ghouls and shovels actually hurt people pretty badly.
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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 16:22:25
March 09 2012 16:17 GMT
#1925
On March 09 2012 22:46 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:41 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On March 09 2012 20:03 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Nobody beats Yorick in lane if Yorick is competent after the removal of crit mastery. Junglers are gamechangers, though.

I beat a Yorick with shen today. QW to victory. I think he was just expecting to win easily, he kept pushing really hard but shen can farm really well under turret and then taunt harass usually let me come out ahead.


I'm pretty sure that shouldn't work. Both ghouls outrange Vorpal Blade and seeing as one of them slows, you should never get in range to chuck a Blade unless Yorick wants you to. You will lose every trade that happens in melee range seeing as he has 3 ghouls hitting you and better AD and all you have is Q+Ki Strike, and then he's going to heal back up much faster than you do. It sounds like he was really dumb and letting you taunt him under the turret?


No reason for me to try to waste my Q on him when he has mana as well as his stuff off cooldown. You need Q and W to negate and heal off him harass. When he started to run a bit low on mana i taunted him and Qed him a couple times then backed off. Basically, to me it felt i could freefarm and eventually make him to run out of mana, then either he recalls or he's sitting there with no mana for ghouls. After i got up some resists and my HoG i felt i could trade more effectively.

edit; to be clear i didnt intend to say shen beats yorick or anything, im not good enough to make these sort of comments. I just intended to post my experience and start off the discussion.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 09 2012 16:24 GMT
#1926
Why people don't play yorick:
Their qwe keys get worn out and they're tired of buying new ones. >_>
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 09 2012 16:33 GMT
#1927
Playing Yorrick hurts eSports.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
March 09 2012 16:50 GMT
#1928
On March 10 2012 01:33 Mogwai wrote:
Playing Yorrick hurts eSports.

Shen not?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 09 2012 16:50 GMT
#1929
If I were gifted in graphic design I'd have a picture of Yorick shoveling dirt on Elly the ESPORTS elephant.
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billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 16:58:25
March 09 2012 16:55 GMT
#1930
who can fare against fiora fairly well? i feel like i just can't do anything to her lvl 1-7ish with most champs in general

excluding yorick
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:01:18
March 09 2012 16:59 GMT
#1931
I did well as Shen, but they didn't build any MR at all so they asked for it. I guess Panthéon can trash her too, her W doesn't work against his Q and he's got higher MS so she'll have to use Q and E to get to him, to which I guess he can answer with a stun.

People hinted at Tryndamere too.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17268 Posts
March 09 2012 17:09 GMT
#1932
I've done well with Renekton but it's hard to gauge champion matchps vs free weekers.
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anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
March 09 2012 17:13 GMT
#1933
What are guys maxing first on fiora?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21961 Posts
March 09 2012 17:18 GMT
#1934
On March 10 2012 02:13 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
What are guys maxing first on fiora?


R>Q>W>E

And WW also tends to work well since he outsustains and wants to build tanky anyway.
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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
March 09 2012 17:38 GMT
#1935
On March 10 2012 02:18 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 02:13 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
What are guys maxing first on fiora?


R>Q>W>E

And WW also tends to work well since he outsustains and wants to build tanky anyway.


I go R>W>E>Q, though I jungle.
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
March 09 2012 18:20 GMT
#1936
On March 10 2012 01:33 Mogwai wrote:
Playing Yorrick hurts eSports.

thank you
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 18:36:49
March 09 2012 18:26 GMT
#1937
Yorick brings out the troll in me, other top laner always just gets mad even if by some miracle you losing your lane.

Exhibit A:
On March 10 2012 01:33 Mogwai wrote:
Playing Yorrick hurts eSports.


Speaking of Yorick, he actually poops on a lot of mids pretty hard early game, and his W has a 1.0 AP scaling. If you can get a decent early game lead you can carry pretty hard as an AP. If not however, you just kind of suck balls... AP Yorick my go to troll/smurf build. With a decent amount of CDR (dat 12 second CD qq) things just die. Nothing quite as satisfying as chunky two people almost instantly with one spell.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 09 2012 18:30 GMT
#1938
im gonna lvl a smurf on na and just play yorick every game.

you guys have opened my eyes.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
March 09 2012 18:49 GMT
#1939
@ canada
ad is 1.0 scaling E and 1.2 scaling on Q. his ghouls scale off of your ad too i think. so why get ap?
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 18:54:10
March 09 2012 18:52 GMT
#1940
On March 10 2012 03:49 wussleeQ wrote:
@ canada
ad is 1.0 scaling E and 1.2 scaling on Q. his ghouls scale off of your ad too i think. so why get ap?


I never said it was good, merely that it catched people by surprise. Having 700+ AP and doing almost 1k AoE nukes on a non-ulti is fun as hell.

On March 10 2012 03:26 iCanada wrote:
AP Yorick my go to troll/smurf build.

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