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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 19 2012 09:28 GMT
#4461
On March 19 2012 18:19 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:14 iCanada wrote:
"There is no reason to play Shyvana while Mundo is in the game. He is just better at everything. He is tankier, does more damage, farms faster, has utility, scales better to the late game, and has way better ganks." -Saintvicious.

Hmmm... interesting.

Lategame mundo is worthless, does no damage, gets kited, can't tank because you can just ignore him. That's what they said here anyways.


Yeah, thats what i remember the general consensus being.

That being said, i have never really played Mundo much, so I honeslty have no idea.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 19 2012 09:40 GMT
#4462
Saint having quite a bit of communication problems with the koreans =D

Oh yeah and he said his favorite trance song is Piledriver by Amoeba Assassin o.O Like I knew that he had a good taste in music, but THAT good a taste... I'm impressed!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 19 2012 09:42 GMT
#4463
Lategame Mundo is worse than lategame Shyv, me thinks.
Mundo either runs in too early and gets blown up in 2 seconds thanks to ignite, or runs in at the right time and gets ignored.

Mind you, for a very long time, everyone thought Morde was useless because you could just ignore him, he then turned out to be OP and got nerfhammered.


What Shyv is better at is invading the jungles. With the free speedbuff from W and a free flash from the ulti, she basically gets away always.
Mundo has better ganks tho.

Dunno, different champs, different strenghts and stuff.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
March 19 2012 09:46 GMT
#4464
On March 19 2012 18:28 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:19 JackDino wrote:
On March 19 2012 18:14 iCanada wrote:
"There is no reason to play Shyvana while Mundo is in the game. He is just better at everything. He is tankier, does more damage, farms faster, has utility, scales better to the late game, and has way better ganks." -Saintvicious.

Hmmm... interesting.

Lategame mundo is worthless, does no damage, gets kited, can't tank because you can just ignore him. That's what they said here anyways.


Yeah, thats what i remember the general consensus being.

That being said, i have never really played Mundo much, so I honeslty have no idea.


I think whether or not you can kite Mundo depends on if you ate a cleaver or not. I find strange though to compare Shyv and Mundo in terms of utility. Both have next to none, but obviously SV thinks that Mundo's cleaver is much more useful than Shyvs ult and the armor shred. He will know better for sure, so I guess one should just try it.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
March 19 2012 09:46 GMT
#4465
Watching SV playing on korean server. The 1200 players there are easily better than 1500 elo on NA lmao. Map awareness + not pointlessly feeding in lane.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 19 2012 09:49 GMT
#4466
On March 19 2012 18:46 cascades wrote:
Watching SV playing on korean server. The 1200 players there are easily better than 1500 elo on NA lmao. Map awareness + not pointlessly feeding in lane.

Yeah, that last game were not 1200 at all at least for people on SV side. I secretly hope he will get some elo hell later
Terran
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 19 2012 09:54 GMT
#4467
Late-lategame Mundo is a beast. Most likely stronger than Shyvana. Below lvl 6 he's also strong. But inbetween? I'd rather have a Shyvana there in most compositions.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 19 2012 09:55 GMT
#4468
On March 19 2012 18:40 Shikyo wrote:
Saint having quite a bit of communication problems with the koreans =D

Oh yeah and he said his favorite trance song is Piledriver by Amoeba Assassin o.O Like I knew that he had a good taste in music, but THAT good a taste... I'm impressed!

Is the synth off beat on that song on purpose or what? Hurts my brain listening to it.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 19 2012 10:09 GMT
#4469
On March 19 2012 12:53 57 Corvette wrote:Tired of impulse buying new champs only to find out i hate them (Looking at you nautilus)


You monster! é.è
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
March 19 2012 10:11 GMT
#4470
what do you guys think of the lifesteal quints? I figure with those, 3% from mastery, and 6% from 2 dblades, you pretty much have a wriggles without the constant wards, armor, and a proc that's usually useless in lane (unless maybe you're trying to push your lane hard as fiora). I'm thinking about buying them with wriggles nerf coming up :\
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
March 19 2012 10:14 GMT
#4471
I think it was snoopeh on SOTL that mentioned people might not know how to play mundo properly, and he is correct.

Mundo is a late game champ, but like all other champs you have to play to his synergies. He isn't a disabler, he can't force people to attack him aside from putting himself out there exposed or doing enough damage to warrant enemy attention.

What these "top" players who play him don't seem to utilize well is his mobility and the fact that he does more damage the lower his health, which means you need to find a way to float him around with low health, but not low enough to get bursted down.

When I watch these big name players jungle mundo, I notice they aren't particularly good at weaving in and out of fights like a good mundo should.

Shyvana and Mundo are both good, it just depends what kind of fighting you want to do.
True skill comes without effort.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 10:23:37
March 19 2012 10:23 GMT
#4472
o.o

17,700 people watching Saints stream right now.

He just a little popular. Rofl. Last i checked was like four hours ago and he was at 2k.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 19 2012 10:24 GMT
#4473
On March 19 2012 18:49 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:46 cascades wrote:
Watching SV playing on korean server. The 1200 players there are easily better than 1500 elo on NA lmao. Map awareness + not pointlessly feeding in lane.

Yeah, that last game were not 1200 at all at least for people on SV side. I secretly hope he will get some elo hell later


Tbh he has already won a few games so his MMR is already a bit higher.

And you tend to see around the same stuff happen on ~1350 EUW.
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 10:48:48
March 19 2012 10:34 GMT
#4474
On March 19 2012 19:24 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:49 Caphe wrote:
On March 19 2012 18:46 cascades wrote:
Watching SV playing on korean server. The 1200 players there are easily better than 1500 elo on NA lmao. Map awareness + not pointlessly feeding in lane.

Yeah, that last game were not 1200 at all at least for people on SV side. I secretly hope he will get some elo hell later


Tbh he has already won a few games so his MMR is already a bit higher.

And you tend to see around the same stuff happen on ~1350 EUW.

I won my first 10 ranked games as well. Now I am stuck at around 1500 lol. Luck played quite a bit in solo-queue. I don't think SV can carry if top and bot feed. He can only help one lane at a time.
Terran
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
March 19 2012 10:38 GMT
#4475
On March 19 2012 18:28 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 18:19 JackDino wrote:
On March 19 2012 18:14 iCanada wrote:
"There is no reason to play Shyvana while Mundo is in the game. He is just better at everything. He is tankier, does more damage, farms faster, has utility, scales better to the late game, and has way better ganks." -Saintvicious.

Hmmm... interesting.

Lategame mundo is worthless, does no damage, gets kited, can't tank because you can just ignore him. That's what they said here anyways.


Yeah, thats what i remember the general consensus being.

That being said, i have never really played Mundo much, so I honeslty have no idea.

i feel like saint is right because shyv gets kited harder without her ult and does less damage
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
March 19 2012 10:48 GMT
#4476
On March 19 2012 16:01 iaeuy wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/r30nc/find_out_your_normal_elo_and_keep_your_match/
this thread has some clarification on how it works
you need to have a normal game played in your match history in order for it to gather info about elo, which is probably why it didnt work for barbsq

from what i read, i'm guessing the current rating is accurate but the top rating is an estimate, as it only sees current elo and elo change after each normal game in your match history. So the normal game "top rating" is really your top rating within your past 10 games (seems true from a few profiles i checked).


The top rating is just taking your current rating and adjusting it with the +/- elo from your match history. I think that's what you were kind of saying, but just clarifying it. If you've only won in your match history your top rating will be your current rating.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 19 2012 11:05 GMT
#4477
Saintvicious proving there is no such thing as elo hell, and puts a whole team on his shoulders. Starts game 0/1, team feeds, ends game 17/1/5.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 19 2012 11:13 GMT
#4478
The same thing about the normal elo, that a lot of information is sent to our clients that is simply not shown anywhere, was told by the guy on reddit who is making his own custom "pre-game client" as in, writes his own client that does everything before you get into a game. Haven't followed the development lately, but he was really for putting in all the suggestions people have made to riot on what to add into the client like the timer for the FWotD, normal elo shown, match history beyond 10 games and more information about them (both team setups for example) and so on.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 19 2012 11:18 GMT
#4479
On March 19 2012 20:05 Amui wrote:
Saintvicious proving there is no such thing as elo hell, and puts a whole team on his shoulders. Starts game 0/1, team feeds, ends game 17/1/5.


Theeere gooooes myyy heroooooo

Hes good when hes sober, actually gives tips n tricks
KCCO!
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
March 19 2012 11:33 GMT
#4480
On March 19 2012 20:05 Amui wrote:
Saintvicious proving there is no such thing as elo hell, and puts a whole team on his shoulders. Starts game 0/1, team feeds, ends game 17/1/5.


I hope you don't seriously believe that such a game is a strong indication of such a thing.
True skill comes without effort.
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