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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
May 05 2012 04:18 GMT
#4941
On May 05 2012 05:29 Mios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 03:11 locodoco wrote:
On May 05 2012 02:52 JackDino wrote:
On May 05 2012 02:50 locodoco wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:18 Mios wrote:
Wonder if Frost and Blaze will practice with each other at all this coming week. Honestly I would have looked forward to an MiG vs non-MiG finals more, seems like there would be more at stake and more of a rivalry. In this case it's like whatever happens, MiG is still getting 300,000,000 won. Still looking forward to it though.

Wonder if they will give most of it to the organization and split the rest evenly among the players, or give 40mil (200 mil / 5 players) to each winning player and 20mil (100 mil / 5 players) to each losing player, or some combination of that. I would guess that the winning MiG players would be awarded a higher individual prize, but not double that of the losing players, while a large portion goes to the organization. I guess I've always been curious as to how prize money is distributed to a winning team and how the players get paid whether it is a salary (that perhaps increases with success) or just get a share of the tournament winnings or both and how this differs between teams from EU, USA, and Asia. I would guess that if they have strong sponsors they would have a constant income.

we're not an organization we're just two teams playing under the same name

But you are somewhat related right, not 2 completely random teams?

yea but there's no "organization" that's going to take most of the cash from winnings, 100% of the winnings go to the players.


Interesting. So does MiG basically just consist of 10 players or are there any managers or other people in the background helping you guys out?

Coming from a SC2 background I'm used to teams like EG/Liquid/oGs/Slayers that sort of act as businesses and I incorrectly assumed Korean LoL teams would be like that just a lot smaller, kinda like CLG/TSM with the website/sponsors etc. But after MiG's success I can see it sort of heading in that direction with LoL's popularity exploding in Korea (unless of course they want to stay independent). Come to think of it, anyone know if MiG has a website? Really curious about these Korean teams, especially MiG Frost/Blaze, since they're among the best in the world it seems. Seeing the beginning of Korean LoL is exciting, really cool to see a bunch of great players form a team, make a name for themselves and win a championship on their own. I wonder what MiG/Xenics/Najin e-mFire/Team OP etc will be a year from now.

its 10 players and onair who acts as a coach/manager, we have people helping us out from time to time but currently one of our player's dad rented us a room for the gaming house for free and onair pays for our food and stuff. onair some times takes a few % from the winnings but all the money he uses for the team (uniform,food,computers,desks,travel expense for the team,etc)
i wish riot would give me better ping
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
May 05 2012 05:09 GMT
#4942
On May 05 2012 13:18 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:29 Mios wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:11 locodoco wrote:
On May 05 2012 02:52 JackDino wrote:
On May 05 2012 02:50 locodoco wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:18 Mios wrote:
Wonder if Frost and Blaze will practice with each other at all this coming week. Honestly I would have looked forward to an MiG vs non-MiG finals more, seems like there would be more at stake and more of a rivalry. In this case it's like whatever happens, MiG is still getting 300,000,000 won. Still looking forward to it though.

Wonder if they will give most of it to the organization and split the rest evenly among the players, or give 40mil (200 mil / 5 players) to each winning player and 20mil (100 mil / 5 players) to each losing player, or some combination of that. I would guess that the winning MiG players would be awarded a higher individual prize, but not double that of the losing players, while a large portion goes to the organization. I guess I've always been curious as to how prize money is distributed to a winning team and how the players get paid whether it is a salary (that perhaps increases with success) or just get a share of the tournament winnings or both and how this differs between teams from EU, USA, and Asia. I would guess that if they have strong sponsors they would have a constant income.

we're not an organization we're just two teams playing under the same name

But you are somewhat related right, not 2 completely random teams?

yea but there's no "organization" that's going to take most of the cash from winnings, 100% of the winnings go to the players.


Interesting. So does MiG basically just consist of 10 players or are there any managers or other people in the background helping you guys out?

Coming from a SC2 background I'm used to teams like EG/Liquid/oGs/Slayers that sort of act as businesses and I incorrectly assumed Korean LoL teams would be like that just a lot smaller, kinda like CLG/TSM with the website/sponsors etc. But after MiG's success I can see it sort of heading in that direction with LoL's popularity exploding in Korea (unless of course they want to stay independent). Come to think of it, anyone know if MiG has a website? Really curious about these Korean teams, especially MiG Frost/Blaze, since they're among the best in the world it seems. Seeing the beginning of Korean LoL is exciting, really cool to see a bunch of great players form a team, make a name for themselves and win a championship on their own. I wonder what MiG/Xenics/Najin e-mFire/Team OP etc will be a year from now.

its 10 players and onair who acts as a coach/manager, we have people helping us out from time to time but currently one of our player's dad rented us a room for the gaming house for free and onair pays for our food and stuff. onair some times takes a few % from the winnings but all the money he uses for the team (uniform,food,computers,desks,travel expense for the team,etc)



Thats very cool of him. Any plans for the future?
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 07 2012 09:09 GMT
#4943
some updateds:

korean vods been updated
summer league announced (someone else can make a thread, have to go on vacation next week for a month ~_~)
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 07 2012 09:27 GMT
#4944
Why aren't you happy about vacation? :O
Thanks for all your hard work updating OP, emucxg. ^o^
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
GreenGT
Profile Joined November 2009
Ukraine134 Posts
May 07 2012 13:31 GMT
#4945
Where's announced of summer league? )
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 07 2012 21:29 GMT
#4946
On May 07 2012 22:31 GreenGT wrote:
Where's announced of summer league? )

http://leagueoflegends.co.kr/News/notice_view.php?idx=49635
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
May 07 2012 22:05 GMT
#4947
Is it the same format as the current spring league? Any word of teams that are participating namely the newly formed or foreign teams?
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 06:08:13
May 08 2012 06:07 GMT
#4948
Re: MiG
So the coach doesn't get paid? And the rent is being covered by a player's dad? Doesn't seem like a very sustainable team structure.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
May 08 2012 06:28 GMT
#4949
On May 08 2012 15:07 theBizness wrote:
Re: MiG
So the coach doesn't get paid? And the rent is being covered by a player's dad? Doesn't seem like a very sustainable team structure.

we're just floating by till we find a sponsor and from the way we're placing in tourney's wont take long
i wish riot would give me better ping
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
May 08 2012 10:09 GMT
#4950
KT MiG, SK MiG, Samsung MiG?
washed
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
May 08 2012 10:52 GMT
#4951
On May 05 2012 13:18 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:29 Mios wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:11 locodoco wrote:
On May 05 2012 02:52 JackDino wrote:
On May 05 2012 02:50 locodoco wrote:
On May 04 2012 23:18 Mios wrote:
Wonder if Frost and Blaze will practice with each other at all this coming week. Honestly I would have looked forward to an MiG vs non-MiG finals more, seems like there would be more at stake and more of a rivalry. In this case it's like whatever happens, MiG is still getting 300,000,000 won. Still looking forward to it though.

Wonder if they will give most of it to the organization and split the rest evenly among the players, or give 40mil (200 mil / 5 players) to each winning player and 20mil (100 mil / 5 players) to each losing player, or some combination of that. I would guess that the winning MiG players would be awarded a higher individual prize, but not double that of the losing players, while a large portion goes to the organization. I guess I've always been curious as to how prize money is distributed to a winning team and how the players get paid whether it is a salary (that perhaps increases with success) or just get a share of the tournament winnings or both and how this differs between teams from EU, USA, and Asia. I would guess that if they have strong sponsors they would have a constant income.

we're not an organization we're just two teams playing under the same name

But you are somewhat related right, not 2 completely random teams?

yea but there's no "organization" that's going to take most of the cash from winnings, 100% of the winnings go to the players.


Interesting. So does MiG basically just consist of 10 players or are there any managers or other people in the background helping you guys out?

Coming from a SC2 background I'm used to teams like EG/Liquid/oGs/Slayers that sort of act as businesses and I incorrectly assumed Korean LoL teams would be like that just a lot smaller, kinda like CLG/TSM with the website/sponsors etc. But after MiG's success I can see it sort of heading in that direction with LoL's popularity exploding in Korea (unless of course they want to stay independent). Come to think of it, anyone know if MiG has a website? Really curious about these Korean teams, especially MiG Frost/Blaze, since they're among the best in the world it seems. Seeing the beginning of Korean LoL is exciting, really cool to see a bunch of great players form a team, make a name for themselves and win a championship on their own. I wonder what MiG/Xenics/Najin e-mFire/Team OP etc will be a year from now.

its 10 players and onair who acts as a coach/manager, we have people helping us out from time to time but currently one of our player's dad rented us a room for the gaming house for free and onair pays for our food and stuff. onair some times takes a few % from the winnings but all the money he uses for the team (uniform,food,computers,desks,travel expense for the team,etc)


What would happen if you found a really good sponsor but they were only willing to sponsor one team?

Sponsoring 10 players after one major tournament may be a bit of a hard sell even if they placed 1st and 2nd. Would you considering letting one team stay unsponsored and hope someone else picks them up (would conflicting sponsors stop you guys from practicing together)? It sounds like waiting 6-12 months for potential high paying sponsors may be difficult without proper connections/kind of paying for everything out of pocket.
Not sure if this is feasible in but I know (western) SC2 players have been known to be individually sponsored even while as a team.

I wish you the best Loco!
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 08 2012 11:26 GMT
#4952
On May 08 2012 19:09 Vlanitak wrote:
KT MiG, SK MiG, Samsung MiG?

plz samsung
GANDHISAUCE
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
May 08 2012 11:30 GMT
#4953
It better be samsung. :D
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
May 09 2012 06:55 GMT
#4954
On May 08 2012 15:28 locodoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 15:07 theBizness wrote:
Re: MiG
So the coach doesn't get paid? And the rent is being covered by a player's dad? Doesn't seem like a very sustainable team structure.

we're just floating by till we find a sponsor and from the way we're placing in tourney's wont take long


Ah OK, makes sense. Good luck with performance/continued growth as an org.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 09 2012 08:10 GMT
#4955
SKT MiG imho

Bisu + Locodoco = my life is complete
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
May 09 2012 10:35 GMT
#4956
3rd place match between Xenics Storm and Team OP about to begin! Www.ognlol.com
washed
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
May 09 2012 10:35 GMT
#4957
Did they mention how to win the kat skin?
@miicah88
Deftscythe
Profile Joined February 2011
United States228 Posts
May 09 2012 10:48 GMT
#4958
Is what Moletrap just said about Sivir spellshield vs Karthus ult true? I don't play her but I do play Nocturne and that is the opposite of how it works on him.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 09 2012 10:49 GMT
#4959
What did he say?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
May 09 2012 10:50 GMT
#4960
You have to spellsheild before he casts ult, and that if you pop shield after he has already casted it won't block.
@miicah88
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