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On February 19 2012 20:38 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 17:30 daemir wrote:
Those actual maths simply fly out the window if that crit happens in a bot lane trade and then one side can go all in to follow up on that crit and win the lane.
1% crit is infinately better than 0% crit, so yes it is "unlocking" the crit mechanic, because you simply cannot crit without investing something into it first now.
And why would you use a red for that crit? You guys all get tricked by the illusion. 1% crit means that 1% of the time you will get ahead thanks to the crit. And 99% of the time you will be behind cause your 1% crit rune did nothing compared to a rune that doesn't depend on randomness. Don't pretend that you suddenly discovered a flaw in old math laws.
Get tricked? Are you saying that swapping 1 yellow or blue rune for a crit one gets you behind in a lane? Where as critting just once actually can put the other guy behind or even get them killed.
1.41 armor is not gonna get you behind. 1 crit can.
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I'm lol'ing while Destiny gets schooled by Wings.
Didn't Destiny quit SC2 to go pro in LoL? ;x
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Nah destiny actually beat a Korean in a tourney recently so he is still competitive in sc2.
Edit: it was choya.
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l0l that was like beating up a little kid.
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Whats that new trend sending the ap carry bot lane and ad mid ? I've seen this in a couple of streamed games, never in tournament though.
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On February 19 2012 20:46 daemir wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 20:38 Kaniol wrote:On February 19 2012 17:30 daemir wrote:
Those actual maths simply fly out the window if that crit happens in a bot lane trade and then one side can go all in to follow up on that crit and win the lane.
1% crit is infinately better than 0% crit, so yes it is "unlocking" the crit mechanic, because you simply cannot crit without investing something into it first now.
And why would you use a red for that crit? You guys all get tricked by the illusion. 1% crit means that 1% of the time you will get ahead thanks to the crit. And 99% of the time you will be behind cause your 1% crit rune did nothing compared to a rune that doesn't depend on randomness. Don't pretend that you suddenly discovered a flaw in old math laws. Get tricked? Are you saying that swapping 1 yellow or blue rune for a crit one gets you behind in a lane? Where as critting just once actually can put the other guy behind or even get them killed. 1.41 armor is not gonna get you behind. 1 crit can.
1 crit isn't gonna put you behind either. 1 Crit basically is the other guy hitting you twice and you only hitting him once, one time. That doesn't put you behind because you won't get crit more than once if at all by someone who has less than 1% crit.
It's like saying you lost your lane because enemy jungler came and zoned you off 3 minions and then left again.
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On February 19 2012 21:06 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 20:46 daemir wrote:On February 19 2012 20:38 Kaniol wrote:On February 19 2012 17:30 daemir wrote:
Those actual maths simply fly out the window if that crit happens in a bot lane trade and then one side can go all in to follow up on that crit and win the lane.
1% crit is infinately better than 0% crit, so yes it is "unlocking" the crit mechanic, because you simply cannot crit without investing something into it first now.
And why would you use a red for that crit? You guys all get tricked by the illusion. 1% crit means that 1% of the time you will get ahead thanks to the crit. And 99% of the time you will be behind cause your 1% crit rune did nothing compared to a rune that doesn't depend on randomness. Don't pretend that you suddenly discovered a flaw in old math laws. Get tricked? Are you saying that swapping 1 yellow or blue rune for a crit one gets you behind in a lane? Where as critting just once actually can put the other guy behind or even get them killed. 1.41 armor is not gonna get you behind. 1 crit can. 1 crit isn't gonna put you behind either. 1 Crit basically is the other guy hitting you twice and you only hitting him once, one time. That doesn't put you behind because you won't get crit more than once if at all by someone who has less than 1% crit. It's like saying you lost your lane because enemy jungler came and zoned you off 3 minions and then left again.
Gangplaks Parrrley getting a crit sure fucks you up though
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On February 19 2012 20:46 daemir wrote:
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1.41 armor is not gonna get you behind. 1 crit can.
Oh yeah, 1.41 armor is not gonna get you behind because i say so, really mature argument! Haven't you ever had a fight that you won and survived with 5-10 hp? This is one of the cases where having armor does allow one to be ahead, stop using arguments that are not true.
Math doesn't hurt, really.
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On February 19 2012 20:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
I'm lol'ing while Destiny gets schooled by Wings.
Didn't Destiny quit SC2 to go pro in LoL? ;x
He quit?
Well... he's going to need some serious luck.
And happy late birthday, forgot to say it.
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On February 19 2012 21:11 Robje wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 21:06 JackDino wrote:On February 19 2012 20:46 daemir wrote:On February 19 2012 20:38 Kaniol wrote:On February 19 2012 17:30 daemir wrote:
Those actual maths simply fly out the window if that crit happens in a bot lane trade and then one side can go all in to follow up on that crit and win the lane.
1% crit is infinately better than 0% crit, so yes it is "unlocking" the crit mechanic, because you simply cannot crit without investing something into it first now.
And why would you use a red for that crit? You guys all get tricked by the illusion. 1% crit means that 1% of the time you will get ahead thanks to the crit. And 99% of the time you will be behind cause your 1% crit rune did nothing compared to a rune that doesn't depend on randomness. Don't pretend that you suddenly discovered a flaw in old math laws. Get tricked? Are you saying that swapping 1 yellow or blue rune for a crit one gets you behind in a lane? Where as critting just once actually can put the other guy behind or even get them killed. 1.41 armor is not gonna get you behind. 1 crit can. 1 crit isn't gonna put you behind either. 1 Crit basically is the other guy hitting you twice and you only hitting him once, one time. That doesn't put you behind because you won't get crit more than once if at all by someone who has less than 1% crit. It's like saying you lost your lane because enemy jungler came and zoned you off 3 minions and then left again. Gangplaks Parrrley getting a crit sure fucks you up though
GP Parrley isn't a normal auto critting tho.
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On February 19 2012 21:03 Lylat wrote:
Whats that new trend sending the ap carry bot lane and ad mid ? I've seen this in a couple of streamed games, never in tournament though.
It's not really new. It can work great but it's very situational.
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On February 19 2012 20:46 daemir wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 20:38 Kaniol wrote:On February 19 2012 17:30 daemir wrote:
Those actual maths simply fly out the window if that crit happens in a bot lane trade and then one side can go all in to follow up on that crit and win the lane.
1% crit is infinately better than 0% crit, so yes it is "unlocking" the crit mechanic, because you simply cannot crit without investing something into it first now.
And why would you use a red for that crit? You guys all get tricked by the illusion. 1% crit means that 1% of the time you will get ahead thanks to the crit. And 99% of the time you will be behind cause your 1% crit rune did nothing compared to a rune that doesn't depend on randomness. Don't pretend that you suddenly discovered a flaw in old math laws. Get tricked? Are you saying that swapping 1 yellow or blue rune for a crit one gets you behind in a lane? Where as critting just once actually can put the other guy behind or even get them killed. 1.41 armor is not gonna get you behind. 1 crit can.
Mathematically it's an equivalent exchange. You won't lose lane 99% of the time you put one point crit in red and it doesn't come up on the first attack. 1 crit rune doesn't mathematically benefit you either in winning your lanes if you just play normally either. You're both wrong.
If you rune for crits you do it for the psychological effect. You tell your opponent that you can crit and they should be scared. You play passive if you don't crit and aggressive if you do. That's all.
Don't swap blues or yellows. They're not meant for offensiveness. Blues are utility, yellows are defensive. I facepalm every time I see some full retard making videos on youtube who goes glass cannon and then shows themselves getting lucky never getting jumped on by another team.
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On February 19 2012 21:17 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 21:03 Lylat wrote:
Whats that new trend sending the ap carry bot lane and ad mid ? I've seen this in a couple of streamed games, never in tournament though. It's not really new. It can work great but it's very situational.
Oh hey it's a great strat! Now if some sheep will go top...
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On February 19 2012 21:14 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 21:11 Robje wrote:On February 19 2012 21:06 JackDino wrote:On February 19 2012 20:46 daemir wrote:On February 19 2012 20:38 Kaniol wrote:On February 19 2012 17:30 daemir wrote:
Those actual maths simply fly out the window if that crit happens in a bot lane trade and then one side can go all in to follow up on that crit and win the lane.
1% crit is infinately better than 0% crit, so yes it is "unlocking" the crit mechanic, because you simply cannot crit without investing something into it first now.
And why would you use a red for that crit? You guys all get tricked by the illusion. 1% crit means that 1% of the time you will get ahead thanks to the crit. And 99% of the time you will be behind cause your 1% crit rune did nothing compared to a rune that doesn't depend on randomness. Don't pretend that you suddenly discovered a flaw in old math laws. Get tricked? Are you saying that swapping 1 yellow or blue rune for a crit one gets you behind in a lane? Where as critting just once actually can put the other guy behind or even get them killed. 1.41 armor is not gonna get you behind. 1 crit can. 1 crit isn't gonna put you behind either. 1 Crit basically is the other guy hitting you twice and you only hitting him once, one time. That doesn't put you behind because you won't get crit more than once if at all by someone who has less than 1% crit. It's like saying you lost your lane because enemy jungler came and zoned you off 3 minions and then left again. Gangplaks Parrrley getting a crit sure fucks you up though GP Parrley isn't a normal auto critting tho.
Might missed something then but getting that little bit of crit would allow Parrley to crit, no? Don't see why it wouldn't count
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On February 19 2012 21:25 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 20:46 daemir wrote:On February 19 2012 20:38 Kaniol wrote:On February 19 2012 17:30 daemir wrote:
Those actual maths simply fly out the window if that crit happens in a bot lane trade and then one side can go all in to follow up on that crit and win the lane.
1% crit is infinately better than 0% crit, so yes it is "unlocking" the crit mechanic, because you simply cannot crit without investing something into it first now.
And why would you use a red for that crit? You guys all get tricked by the illusion. 1% crit means that 1% of the time you will get ahead thanks to the crit. And 99% of the time you will be behind cause your 1% crit rune did nothing compared to a rune that doesn't depend on randomness. Don't pretend that you suddenly discovered a flaw in old math laws. Get tricked? Are you saying that swapping 1 yellow or blue rune for a crit one gets you behind in a lane? Where as critting just once actually can put the other guy behind or even get them killed. 1.41 armor is not gonna get you behind. 1 crit can. Don't swap blues or yellows. They're not meant for offensiveness. Blues are utility, yellows are defensive. I facepalm every time I see some full retard making videos on youtube who goes glass cannon and then shows themselves getting lucky never getting jumped on by another team.
There's a reasonable amount of champions who use offensive yellows and/or blues. AP/lvl Yellows, AP/lvl Blues, AS Blues are very common choices. Limiting your rune choice by such an arbitrary statement is not a good thing to do - rune accordingly to the needs of your champions and your lane and you're fine.
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Wow saint has 20k viewers he must be so tempted to run 3 commercials.
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The thing is, basically you'd have to parley 100 times for it to crit once. Let's say you're attack 100 times back, each of those times you miss 1.41 armor. Simple.
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teamwork and communication plays such a big part in 5v5 teams lol. my team consists of a bunch of 1400 and a 1600 solo queues and we managed to beat a team of 1800's. i really think our mechanics are not up to a great level but with good teamwork it isn't needed at this level :D
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my god saintvicious is hilariously drunk. commenting on some random highlander video. nearly died of laughter
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I can't even really distinguish drunk saint from sober saint :D
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