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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 23:14:15
February 15 2012 23:12 GMT
#741
On February 16 2012 07:49 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:

We are the general population.

Hang out here long enough and you will see this certainly is not the case. The average TL player may not be mechanically better than an average pub, but typically they have a MUCH better understanding of the game simply by listening to the shit in this thread.

Hell, I went from 1100-1500 a year ago through pure osmosis. Then once you decide to stop being lazy and actually think for yourself and play seriously you can start climbing again.

@ Cloud- You are WAY behind the hipster train on that one. Once M5 did it he became viable to the general population.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
February 15 2012 23:16 GMT
#742
I didn't even know M5 did Mundo. Apparently I am pretty far behind.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 15 2012 23:18 GMT
#743
every1 in this game is viable

every kit is unique and has strong points and weak points - its just figuring when and how to use the strengths and to minimize the weaknesses that escapes people for some of the "weaker" champions escapes many
Hey! Listen!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 15 2012 23:22 GMT
#744
Wait, the general consensus now is that Mundo is good? It wasn't even three weeks ago that people considered him only better than Evelynn. The LoL community is so fucking stupid sometimes. Pro team runs a champion whom they all consider trash and suddenly he's viable. Meanwhile I've thought Shyvana and Mundo were both pretty good before M5 ran them. So much hate.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2012 23:28 GMT
#745
On February 16 2012 08:22 overt wrote:
Wait, the general consensus now is that Mundo is good? It wasn't even three weeks ago that people considered him only better than Evelynn. The LoL community is so fucking stupid sometimes. Pro team runs a champion whom they all consider trash and suddenly he's viable. Meanwhile I've thought Shyvana and Mundo were both pretty good before M5 ran them. So much hate.


Let's ignore the massive buffs he got, amirite?
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2012 23:28 GMT
#746
Oh, and since I'm actually thinking about something on the general topic- here are my contenders for the next FOTM (having correctly called Morg, Kennen, and Shyv in the past):

Talon: Went from must ban to never picked after these changes: 15 mana on W, 15 seconds on ult, and going to an actual NORMAL hp/mp5 rate. No damage changes whatsoever. Classic case of nerfs and a jump off the bandwagon. With the increasing likelyhood of swapping around lanes, I could VERY easily see Talon return to the forefront on a team that sends a tanky mage top or bot.

Annie: I dont think she will ever return to being considered op, but her map control is incredible early thanks to an absurd aoe burst stun. I honestly cant think about a better character to bring along for buff incursions than a stunbers ready annie. Once people figure out her matchups (I think this is a fault of her falling out of favor just as a bunch of new mages came into play) she will go back to being a very common pick.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2012 23:29 GMT
#747
On February 16 2012 08:22 overt wrote:
Wait, the general consensus now is that Mundo is good? It wasn't even three weeks ago that people considered him only better than Evelynn. The LoL community is so fucking stupid sometimes. Pro team runs a champion whom they all consider trash and suddenly he's viable. Meanwhile I've thought Shyvana and Mundo were both pretty good before M5 ran them. So much hate.

Thats the point of this discussion. Who else do we know doesnt suck and just have to wait on before laughing at the general population.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 15 2012 23:30 GMT
#748
Trashed a Vladimir with Orianna. Leveled shield first, abused my boots start against his amp+pot by forcing trades everytime he wanted to last hit and his Q was down. 3-4 autoattacks from Orianna, even with only AP from quints and masteries, really hurts early on. Plus you just have to shield yourself whenever you go for a trade and you lose like 60 mana to his 130+ HP. Use the cd to shield ignite and his ult too.

It's probably not really good (tho you're a bitch to gank, Volibear couldn't do it that well event ho I burnt flash several times) but it's hilarious how as a mage you almost don't use offensive spells pre-6/7 and still truck your opponent.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9821 Posts
February 15 2012 23:32 GMT
#749
Akali's still decent. Lategame poppy is absolutely disgusting.
boomer hands
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 23:39:38
February 15 2012 23:37 GMT
#750
On February 16 2012 08:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 08:22 overt wrote:
Wait, the general consensus now is that Mundo is good? It wasn't even three weeks ago that people considered him only better than Evelynn. The LoL community is so fucking stupid sometimes. Pro team runs a champion whom they all consider trash and suddenly he's viable. Meanwhile I've thought Shyvana and Mundo were both pretty good before M5 ran them. So much hate.


Let's ignore the massive buffs he got, amirite?


Even pre-buff he did okay solo top. I'm assuming people think he's strong from the jungle now and still consider him kind of bad top lane? He's pretty good top lane though, not many champions who can stop him from farming and a farmed Mundo is pretty scary. Not to mention at level 2 he can win a lot of trades with common solo top picks. He may be stronger in jungle, I dunno, I mostly play him solo top and I think he's pretty good there even before his most recent buffs.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 23:39:44
February 15 2012 23:38 GMT
#751
Yup, my list of underappreciated champs:
Mundo
Olaf (though I think he's been appreciated a little recently?)
Karma, of course
Poppy, dear god
Pretty much everyone that was FotM, then got nerfed once.
Oh and Amumu still jungles pretty fast, and spellvamp quints on him are hilarious. Seriously. Easiest dragon in the game.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 23:48:51
February 15 2012 23:46 GMT
#752
On February 16 2012 08:28 Two_DoWn wrote:
Oh, and since I'm actually thinking about something on the general topic- here are my contenders for the next FOTM (having correctly called Morg, Kennen, and Shyv in the past):

Talon: Went from must ban to never picked after these changes: 15 mana on W, 15 seconds on ult, and going to an actual NORMAL hp/mp5 rate. No damage changes whatsoever. Classic case of nerfs and a jump off the bandwagon. With the increasing likelyhood of swapping around lanes, I could VERY easily see Talon return to the forefront on a team that sends a tanky mage top or bot.

Annie: I dont think she will ever return to being considered op, but her map control is incredible early thanks to an absurd aoe burst stun. I honestly cant think about a better character to bring along for buff incursions than a stunbers ready annie. Once people figure out her matchups (I think this is a fault of her falling out of favor just as a bunch of new mages came into play) she will go back to being a very common pick.

Played Talon on a friend's account since I'm banned. 14 kda ratio from 1k to 1k5 elo. Still have to lose with him.
He is seriously absolutely OP if you manage to assert lane dominance or do a successful mid gank (which you can typically do before your first back).

From there on he snowballs like mad, and has soooooo much AoE in teamfights it's not fun.

Oh and Sion is going back to underrated mid. I don't see him banned or picked anymore.
The legend of Darien lives on
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 23:52:47
February 15 2012 23:52 GMT
#753
Meh... I still think Mundo is awful. If nothing else, it's because I have yet to see a single Mundo, whether in my games or on a stream that has actually impressed me or make me think that it brought something to the game that another champ couldnt.

Under appreciated champs:
Karma
Poppy
Volibear
Kayle (she can be a strong counter-pick or pusher)
Lux (as a solo mid)

Under played champs (these guys people agree are good but for some reason I never see them played):
Fizz
Xerath
Wukong
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 15 2012 23:53 GMT
#754
Annie is one of my favorite champions. Her laning phase is still really strong and her gank potential is phenomenal. No idea why people stopped playing her. I guess in tournaments or high level organized play her strengths are diminished a bit but in solo queue she's still crazy strong and always will be unless they nerf her heavily.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 16 2012 00:08 GMT
#755
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1805083

Do want.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 00:10:23
February 16 2012 00:08 GMT
#756
On February 16 2012 08:52 Ryuu314 wrote:
Under played champs (these guys people agree are good but for some reason I never see them played):
Xerath


He's kinda bland to be honest. I bought him, played him a bit (and badly), found him boring. Fizz I wouldn't want to play just because I hate his E, which I think is an absurd move. Such an easy escape becoming an immunity to skillshots, doubled with wall-jump, gap-closer/escape, and damage.
Same with Yorrick. I found him so boring to lane against and mindless mashing that I wouldn't want to play him myself.

And I hate laning against Annie. She's so obnoxious when played aggressively!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 16 2012 00:12 GMT
#757
On February 16 2012 09:08 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1805083

Do want.




actually, i want a teemo skin for nautilus :D
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
February 16 2012 00:25 GMT
#758
Just got crit 5 times in a row by gp. Crit runes yeaaah
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 00:27:55
February 16 2012 00:26 GMT
#759
Is it just me or is Urgot+Soraka super strong. Urgot was pretty beastly before but with new Soraka you can go into defence masteries as secondary +armour seals and rape any bot lane fairly easy.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
February 16 2012 00:29 GMT
#760
Nautilus is like exact copy of Leona except Riot changed all the animations and model.
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
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