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On February 01 2012 09:29 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 08:23 Slayer91 wrote:On February 01 2012 07:00 overt wrote:On February 01 2012 06:08 Slayer91 wrote:On February 01 2012 03:59 Noocta wrote:On February 01 2012 03:52 Shiv. wrote:On February 01 2012 03:48 Noocta wrote:On February 01 2012 03:24 Two_DoWn wrote:
Ez is also a really weak lane. Any pusher is gonna give him fits, as well as Cait (but cait does do that to every ad carry, so w/e) Ezreal shit on Cait oO Just play agressive, she don't even do half your damage after lvl 3 lol If you have no clue what you are talking about, please refrain from talking at all. Tell me what Cait can do if you jump on her agressively after she use her Q. Specialy since cait players usualy stay near the bottom bush becuase of her passive, so minions are less a problem. But heh.. it can be. I usualy don't have a problem laning against cait as Ezreal. Always felt she's the easiest match up of ez. :/ Ez was always the classic "cait counter" from all top level players. You'll note he stopped being played when cait stopped being picked. I really hate people flaming someone over something that is highly debated as if it's general knowledge. He wasn't a Cait counter. He can just farm in lane because of the range on his Q. With proper positioning the lane still favors Caitlyn but Ez was capable of farming against a Caitlyn while other champions such as Ashe, Corki, or Vayne had difficulty farming against an aggressive Caitlyn in lane. Cait has a harder time zoning Ez than other ADs because of Q harass and the fact that Ez can still farm with Q. But Ezreal is not a counter to Caitlyn nor does he win the lane and he especially doesn't shit on her as Noocta said. Caitlyn is really strong early so most ADs just had to survive the beginning of the game without being fucked over. Almost every AD can survive that lane if they have a good support player and then when the lane phase is over you have an AD carry that's much stronger than Caitlyn simply because of how bad Caitlyn scales. What? You can farm with max range Q and then you pick your time to jump on caitlyn. You have insane steriods and way more damage with your Q and R and E base damage there's no possible way she can trade with that. Except that you're not considering supports at all or the fact that Caitlyn has great brush control with her traps. Ez is going to jump on a Caitlyn and take creep agro, Cait autos, and damage from your support? Why? By jump on her I'm assuming you mean E into her which is fine but if anything goes wrong at all he's fucked. There's no way Ez+most supports are going to win a trade by Ez jumping on Caitlyn+her support+her creep wave. (edit: Caitlyn is usually going to have a bigger creep wave than Ez too, if Ez has a creep advantage then Caitlyn is playing the lane all wrong) The point is, saying that Ezreal is a Caitlyn counter is wrong because Ezreal can't deny Caitlyn farm and isn't going to just straight up kill Caitlyn either unless she plays poorly. To me, a counter isn't someone who can farm okay and maybe win a few trades. A counter is someone who actively denies you farm or can kill you if you try to farm. Ezreal can't do either of these things to Caitlyn in a duo lane. I'm not even sure Ez can do either of those in a solo lane.
You can't based you play on your lane constantly being pushed, though. For example if Ez support brings a pink ward and the jungler comes burns a flash and the wave evens out or something. (just a random example), if Ez E's to the side (not directly into the creep wave) and he's hits Q and E on her she is probably losing that damage trade. Also it depends a lot of the support I agree. A lot of people let you get away with Ezreal+sona back then against say cait taric and you won't get away with that now, sona was probably a lot of the reason people saw Ezrael as a counter.
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Realistically, cait beats ez. But there are circumstances that dictate a weaker ad beating a stronger ad. That's what makes LoL not yu gi oh trading cards.
We can all make some theorycrafting scenarios where eve is a god and no1 can beat her ever.
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Thanks for your input numbers, I know you love the euros!
EDIT damnit numbers don't make a blank post then edit something in!!
Would you say cait taric would beat ez sona?
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On February 01 2012 10:05 Slayer91 wrote:
Thanks for your input numbers, I know you love the euros!
EDIT damnit numbers don't make a blank post then edit something in!!
Would you say cait taric would beat ez sona?
I think this matchup is pretty even.
But I'm a troll.
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On February 01 2012 08:14 Shikyo wrote:
im playing with shen and wtf I thought Q heals you if you lasthit with it but it doesnt?=
I believe this was one of the intended buffs for Shen before they delayed it.
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Is there a chance that the new champ will be added tomorrow? (I'm assuming that patches are always on wednesdays)
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I'm not suprised their was an AP amumu bug. I felt like his W did NO damage at all with AP UNLESS you got abyssal/sorcs as opposed to deathcap and stuff. (his other spells felt beastly with ap though, haha)
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This Ez discussion is so retarded there is no point to even comment on it.
Viktor
* Power Transfer missile speed increased to 2000 from 1400
* Chaos Storm persistent damage per second increased to 50/75/100 (+0.25 ability power) from 40/60/80 (+0.2 ability power)
They actually did something right! :O
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His ult did NOT need more damage... haha.
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WotA nerf... Sivir nerf... seems legit to me... Afraid jax too stronk
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On February 01 2012 10:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
This Ez discussion is so retarded there is no point to even comment on it.
Viktor
* Power Transfer missile speed increased to 2000 from 1400
* Chaos Storm persistent damage per second increased to 50/75/100 (+0.25 ability power) from 40/60/80 (+0.2 ability power)
They actually did something right! :O
His ult was already ridiculously strong, now its gonna be even crazier, still think its better to go Death first, but any buff is nice.
Fixed a bug where Ezreal would lose his run animation after 390 movement speed
NOOOOOOO
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VIKTOR BUFFS
MUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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- Fixed a bug where the Demolitionist mastery disabled global passives such as Twisted Fate's Loaded Dice and Janna's Tailwind
I don't even know how you manage to break something like that.
- Fixed a bug where Triumphant Roar was not granting assists
FINALLY
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On February 01 2012 10:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
This Ez discussion is so retarded there is no point to even comment on it.
Viktor
* Power Transfer missile speed increased to 2000 from 1400
* Chaos Storm persistent damage per second increased to 50/75/100 (+0.25 ability power) from 40/60/80 (+0.2 ability power)
They actually did something right! :O
No, they fucked up hard. Viktor gonna be REAL stroink after this.
I may not even need to carry soniv anymore.
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Yeah tbh I don't think viktor had any problem except his Q missile speed.
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Added a new option, "Show Smartcast Ranges"
oooh, wonder how this is implemented. Show on press/cast on release? Always showing?
I would actually play with always showing, would look silly but it would be cool, at least if you could turn down the range brightness/opacity
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Wow...I actually like most of these patch changes :O
Jax buffs in the right place, altho not sure if he'll be as faceroll as some people have been saying.
Sivir nerfs look good; not overboard imo
Viktor ulti buff probably a bit too much but well...all new champs go through a phase of being OP as hell so w/e.
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Sigh.
Why the hell would you buff Viktor's ult. Do they even play the same game as us?
On February 01 2012 10:24 sob3k wrote:oooh, wonder how this is implemented. Show on press/cast on release? Always showing? I would actually play with always showing, would look silly but it would be cool, at least if you could turn down the range brightness/opacity
Most likely it's the form where it shows while you hold it down and then goes away when you release the key. It's really fking awkward to use.
But yet we still can't bind normal cast to shift+letter w/o manually editing the text file.
Fixed a bug where Cataclysm immediately crumbled when Jarvan IV died
How are things like this a "bug" when they've operated this way for months? Why don't they just call it like it is and admit they're changing the way the ability works
The changes to global projectile ults like ECR/Trueshot Barrage now granting vision are interesting. The Ashe buffs are nice, but I doubt they'll accomplish much.
Sivir ult still too strong, needs the aspd reduced.
Looks like they fixed some coding somewhere that was making passive abilities not work while CC'd.
Jax given massive buffs -_-.
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