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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
January 26 2012 03:28 GMT
#2401
On January 26 2012 12:27 pschiu wrote:
Is it just me or does doublelift have a permanent smirk on his face?

And <3 locodoco


Doublelift so trolll.

Rofl.
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 26 2012 03:32 GMT
#2402
._.
now they talk about loco's background noise and what he was eating, lolol.
derp
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 03:40:48
January 26 2012 03:37 GMT
#2403
LOL

"What are we talking about? Shaniqua? Oh Sejuani."

heh oops double post

haha Wickd in response to all talk about Sejuani's ult: "what does it do"
derp
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 26 2012 03:38 GMT
#2404
On January 26 2012 10:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 10:35 clickrush wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:33 Banishment wrote:
No, its not. Its like being 1600 rating in LoL.


i think not. there are actual numbers about this and iam pretty sure masters is like 1.9k.

Actually, Masters would be the rough equivalent of gold in LoL: The top 3% of players are above 1520, which is roughly what Masters is in SC2.

If you want the rest of the list:

Plat is top .2%
Gold is top 3%
Silver is top 10%
Bronze is top 25%

So basically breaking 1250 is a HUGE accomplishment in terms of the actual number of people who play ranked.

Of course, the only thing that REALLY matters is that the list can be broken down like this

Plat: 99% chance of being terrible
Below: 100% chance of being terrible.

wowwwww gold is top 3%? I thought it was 10% or something, jesus that is painful. Im so bad at this game and im still in the top three percentile? It just doesn't make sense to me.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 26 2012 03:42 GMT
#2405
On January 26 2012 12:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 10:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:35 clickrush wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:33 Banishment wrote:
No, its not. Its like being 1600 rating in LoL.


i think not. there are actual numbers about this and iam pretty sure masters is like 1.9k.

Actually, Masters would be the rough equivalent of gold in LoL: The top 3% of players are above 1520, which is roughly what Masters is in SC2.

If you want the rest of the list:

Plat is top .2%
Gold is top 3%
Silver is top 10%
Bronze is top 25%

So basically breaking 1250 is a HUGE accomplishment in terms of the actual number of people who play ranked.

Of course, the only thing that REALLY matters is that the list can be broken down like this

Plat: 99% chance of being terrible
Below: 100% chance of being terrible.

wowwwww gold is top 3%? I thought it was 10% or something, jesus that is painful. Im so bad at this game and im still in the top three percentile? It just doesn't make sense to me.


Put it this way.
SC is a game for gamers. Some would argue hardcore gamers. Most people who are not hardcore gamers in some way do not play SCBW or SC2.
LoL is a game for everyone.

Based on the above logic, MANY more people play LoL than SC2, hence why it is possible for bad players such as yourself (and me) to rated in a relatively high percentile of the population.

As more and more people play perhaps elo inflation will increase the tier levels and 2.2k will become top 1%, for example.
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 03:43:22
January 26 2012 03:42 GMT
#2406
On January 26 2012 12:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 10:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:35 clickrush wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:33 Banishment wrote:
No, its not. Its like being 1600 rating in LoL.


i think not. there are actual numbers about this and iam pretty sure masters is like 1.9k.

Actually, Masters would be the rough equivalent of gold in LoL: The top 3% of players are above 1520, which is roughly what Masters is in SC2.

If you want the rest of the list:

Plat is top .2%
Gold is top 3%
Silver is top 10%
Bronze is top 25%

So basically breaking 1250 is a HUGE accomplishment in terms of the actual number of people who play ranked.

Of course, the only thing that REALLY matters is that the list can be broken down like this

Plat: 99% chance of being terrible
Below: 100% chance of being terrible.

wowwwww gold is top 3%? I thought it was 10% or something, jesus that is painful. Im so bad at this game and im still in the top three percentile? It just doesn't make sense to me.


I feel the same way about SC2. I didn't play for a month, played again, lost 30 games in a row before placing into masters for the nth time, and I still play like shit.

Right now I'm on my way to gold though, 1450 and going up.
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pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
January 26 2012 03:45 GMT
#2407
@USnip I have friends who play lol like an mmo... See minion shoot minion, get some gold buy random shiny boots...

And wait, what's happening on sotl now. "Anyone play Sejuani?" "Nope" "No" *shakes head* Jatt: "I played ONE game..."

Then they proceed to discuss Sejuani? Really?
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 03:47:16
January 26 2012 03:46 GMT
#2408
Okay so to fix Sejuani and make her viable she needs breast implants

sotl dropping knowledge
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 03:48:49
January 26 2012 03:48 GMT
#2409
They're talking about how it's so much easier to just wait for somebody else to figure them out than actually invest time into discovering something that might be good in a few match ups. They can just scout out somebody who destroys solo Q and then copy it or tell their teammate who actually plays that lane about it.

"why invest 20 hours into a champion that might be good when I can just wait for somebody else to figure it out"
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 03:50:38
January 26 2012 03:48 GMT
#2410
^^ I don't get this about the professional LoL players. It seems they're all waiting for someone else to do the legwork for them. At the same time, this is probably why Xerath hasn't been nerfed yet.

Udyr and Shaco are my go to pub stompers. How the hell can Shaco be perma-ban but Mr. bear-sprint-stun, fiery death AoE guy isn't?
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 26 2012 03:48 GMT
#2411
On January 26 2012 12:26 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 10:49 clickrush wrote:
oh. I thought masters is 0.2. thx for correcting me

On January 26 2012 10:46 NotSorry wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:30 overt wrote:
saint was master's league in SC2? Stopped playing SC2 before master's was even made but isn't that kind of hard to get into?

nah it's very easy you can get it with literally just learning 1 build/timing attack and playing enough


pls guys. comments like these are full of shit. Being one of the best 3% in something that is competitive is never 'easy' except you are extremely gifted. Also your statement on how its done is so wrong on many levels.

You don't need to be extremly gifted to be good at holding a mouse and pressing keys. This is basically what gets you to the top 2% in every game.

uhhh no, you have to be better at holding a mouse and pressing keys than 98% of other people who play the game
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 26 2012 03:49 GMT
#2412
Well there actual reasoning is nobody knows how to play Sejuani. None of the pros want to waste their time playing her to learn her when they could just wait for someone else to learn her and then copy them.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 26 2012 03:53 GMT
#2413
On January 26 2012 12:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 12:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:35 clickrush wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:33 Banishment wrote:
No, its not. Its like being 1600 rating in LoL.


i think not. there are actual numbers about this and iam pretty sure masters is like 1.9k.

Actually, Masters would be the rough equivalent of gold in LoL: The top 3% of players are above 1520, which is roughly what Masters is in SC2.

If you want the rest of the list:

Plat is top .2%
Gold is top 3%
Silver is top 10%
Bronze is top 25%

So basically breaking 1250 is a HUGE accomplishment in terms of the actual number of people who play ranked.

Of course, the only thing that REALLY matters is that the list can be broken down like this

Plat: 99% chance of being terrible
Below: 100% chance of being terrible.

wowwwww gold is top 3%? I thought it was 10% or something, jesus that is painful. Im so bad at this game and im still in the top three percentile? It just doesn't make sense to me.


Put it this way.
SC is a game for gamers. Some would argue hardcore gamers. Most people who are not hardcore gamers in some way do not play SCBW or SC2.
LoL is a game for everyone.

Based on the above logic, MANY more people play LoL than SC2, hence why it is possible for bad players such as yourself (and me) to rated in a relatively high percentile of the population.

As more and more people play perhaps elo inflation will increase the tier levels and 2.2k will become top 1%, for example.

Well, the only problem I have with that analysis is that the numbers I gave are only of the people who actually play ranked. Id argue that it takes WAY more dedication to hit 30 and get a ranking than it does to buy SC2 and play 5 placement matches.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
January 26 2012 03:54 GMT
#2414
I was high masters before coming to SC2 as Protoss and Zerg and I really find LoL to be an easy game, the issue with League and beginning if you have mechanics is just learning champion abilities and cooldowns, finding champions you like and are comfortable playing, and learning all of their matchups to the point where you know what will happen and are able to react before hand.

With that said it is a BIG hurdle learning all the champions which I feel I have finally accomplished since I am now seeing a steady rise in my ELO. When I started out I just kind of jumped right into ranked because I dislike non competitive games which normals are and learned from there, dipping to like 900ish and now sit at 1350. I think I should be able to rise steadily until I reach a point where I need to learn more (wherever that is)

I started playing in September.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 26 2012 03:55 GMT
#2415
On January 26 2012 12:49 BlackMagister wrote:
Well there actual reasoning is nobody knows how to play Sejuani. None of the pros want to waste their time playing her to learn her when they could just wait for someone else to learn her and then copy them.


Sounds somewhat suspiciously like Viktor...
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
January 26 2012 03:55 GMT
#2416
Doublelift pulling out the "1v1 me and see" argument for champ matchups again :p.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 26 2012 03:58 GMT
#2417
On January 26 2012 12:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 12:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On January 26 2012 12:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:35 clickrush wrote:
On January 26 2012 10:33 Banishment wrote:
No, its not. Its like being 1600 rating in LoL.


i think not. there are actual numbers about this and iam pretty sure masters is like 1.9k.

Actually, Masters would be the rough equivalent of gold in LoL: The top 3% of players are above 1520, which is roughly what Masters is in SC2.

If you want the rest of the list:

Plat is top .2%
Gold is top 3%
Silver is top 10%
Bronze is top 25%

So basically breaking 1250 is a HUGE accomplishment in terms of the actual number of people who play ranked.

Of course, the only thing that REALLY matters is that the list can be broken down like this

Plat: 99% chance of being terrible
Below: 100% chance of being terrible.

wowwwww gold is top 3%? I thought it was 10% or something, jesus that is painful. Im so bad at this game and im still in the top three percentile? It just doesn't make sense to me.


Put it this way.
SC is a game for gamers. Some would argue hardcore gamers. Most people who are not hardcore gamers in some way do not play SCBW or SC2.
LoL is a game for everyone.

Based on the above logic, MANY more people play LoL than SC2, hence why it is possible for bad players such as yourself (and me) to rated in a relatively high percentile of the population.

As more and more people play perhaps elo inflation will increase the tier levels and 2.2k will become top 1%, for example.

Well, the only problem I have with that analysis is that the numbers I gave are only of the people who actually play ranked. Id argue that it takes WAY more dedication to hit 30 and get a ranking than it does to buy SC2 and play 5 placement matches.


I respectfully disagree, good sir.
You assume that only people who are 'dedicated' to competitive play will get to 30 and play ranked, which is simply not true. I have friends in school with me right now, for example, who have had the game for well over a year, some of whom have not even hit 30. Others have but only play once in a while with their friends.
Still others have played a couple ranked games here and there, but that's it. There's people all across the spectrum for LoL.
In SC2, its reputation and complexity completely shut out (aside from the UMS crowd maybe) anyone who is not out to play competitively.

And yes I am well aware that it's only those who play ranked, but if anything that should make the percentiles even smaller at the top. Do you really think there are a ton of 'normal fiends' out there or level 20s who are super secretly really good at the game but don't want to try?
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 04:00:42
January 26 2012 03:58 GMT
#2418
On January 26 2012 12:48 Offhand wrote:
^^ I don't get this about the professional LoL players. It seems they're all waiting for someone else to do the legwork for them. At the same time, this is probably why Xerath hasn't been nerfed yet.

They're taking about Xerath right now. Xpecial talking about how Lebanc counters Xerath, Jatt agreeing there are counters to Xerath to the point his team tried to bait other teams to pick Xerath. Doublelift however saying Xerath can't be countered, best AP. Then Wicked making fun of the conversation by saying nobody plays mid. Xpecial saying he does play mid to back up his points about Xerath, but then getting sidetracked into Nasus discussion with Wicked.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 04:00:14
January 26 2012 03:59 GMT
#2419
Wcked: The thing is guys none of us play mid so none of us know what the fuck we're talking about.

ROFLOLMAO LOLOLMAO

(about who's better - LB or Xerath)
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 26 2012 04:06 GMT
#2420
On January 26 2012 12:45 pschiu wrote:
@USnip I have friends who play lol like an mmo... See minion shoot minion, get some gold buy random shiny boots...

And wait, what's happening on sotl now. "Anyone play Sejuani?" "Nope" "No" *shakes head* Jatt: "I played ONE game..."

Then they proceed to discuss Sejuani? Really?


To be fair, Sejuani is probably only gonna work as a jungler. The only jungler there is Jatt and he doesn't play pro LoL anymore. Doublelift, Xpecial, wickd, and others probably haven't really played a lot of the junglers (or at least not to know how to really play them). They can still give their opinions on the champ from stuff they've seen in solo queue or in scrims. Although I didn't watch it so I'm just taking stabs in the dark.

Speaking of, sad that I stopped watching sotl so early. Would've liked to see locodoco... I'll just catch the vods.
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