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On January 02 2012 06:56 Two_DoWn wrote:
Its more annoying than anything else. You dont die pretty much ever unless you are stupid, but I find it tends to lack any real usefulness besides being impossible to kill.
What I would say, is that it's really good at cleaning up kills. just because of her "q" mechanic while she's in cougar form.
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On January 02 2012 06:54 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 06:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Been playing nidalee again. OMG why did I ever switch champions? It's so rewarding hitting the enemy carry for more than 70% of their health with just a javelin.
Also, what's with all the meta-golem nidalees now a days? (wriggles, triforce, atmogs, and so on)??? It's pretty good but people never tried it because AP reigned supreme. People always overreact to nerfs so when ap nida got nerfed they started looking at other builds.
To be fair the ad build got nerfed a lot too, the old imba heal made cougar form a lot stronger. Ad was even better with old nid than current nid, just ap had lategame 1k heals.
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On January 02 2012 06:19 Promises wrote:
Do you guys happen to know a streamer that regularly plays AP besides Regi? I see some occasional Kassadin's but apart from that it's almost pure jungle/top/ad, and ofcourse Nhat's support =)
jiji only plays AP and never says "bro" or "baylife."
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Apparently baylife is actually a san francisco thing originally, kind of funny that I heard about it through lol.
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On January 02 2012 06:54 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 06:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Been playing nidalee again. OMG why did I ever switch champions? It's so rewarding hitting the enemy carry for more than 70% of their health with just a javelin.
Also, what's with all the meta-golem nidalees now a days? (wriggles, triforce, atmogs, and so on)??? It's pretty good but people never tried it because AP reigned supreme. People always overreact to nerfs so when ap nida got nerfed they started looking at other builds.
Btw I said triforce atmogs nidalee is good like a year ago
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On January 02 2012 07:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
Apparently baylife is actually a san francisco thing originally, kind of funny that I heard about it through lol.
I live in San Francisco and no one goes "baylife" here.
Must be a south Bay (San Jose) thing. zzz
Embarrassing.
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On January 02 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 01:46 Feartheguru wrote:On January 01 2012 23:49 spinesheath wrote:On January 01 2012 23:29 JackDino wrote:
Except a dblade lets you trade better than a philo on an AD, having a hp crystal or a cloth armour won't let you trade that much more than having a philo, and the philo gives you some gold at the same time. That Philo isn't even subject of the discussion. The HoG and possibly even Pick after the Philo is. For the Philo it is easy to explain why you get it: HP5, MP5 and it builds into Reverie. The gold/10 is a bonus. Now that this current-metagame-support has a Philo, he opts for a HoG next. Why? Kindlegem is of comparable cost, slightly less HP, 10 CDR extra. And it ALSO builds into Reverie. This would only make sense if the gold/10 was extremely good (it has to compare to a fricken 3 sec 40% team wide MSpd boost, which HoG delays by like 8 minutes). And ONLY IF it is so good, I raise the question why nobody gets it on ADs. You continuous make the leap in logic that since second g/10 is worth it on support, it MUST be worth it on AD carry because they can get it even earlier. Even though people repeatedly tell you that you cannot make such a leap in logic because AD carries want to put themselves in a position to snowball. If i wanted to give my Sona a better chance to snowball I must just get that kindlegem, but I know it's not gonna happen so I take my HoG. On an AD carry I have a decent chance of snowballing so I take another Dblade over a d/10. the only decent gp10 items on ad or avaric and philo stone, and i don't even pick those up unless my lane phase is complete and utter shit.
Might aswell /ff if you get GP10s when you are behind already.
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On January 02 2012 07:16 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:On January 02 2012 01:46 Feartheguru wrote:On January 01 2012 23:49 spinesheath wrote:On January 01 2012 23:29 JackDino wrote:
Except a dblade lets you trade better than a philo on an AD, having a hp crystal or a cloth armour won't let you trade that much more than having a philo, and the philo gives you some gold at the same time. That Philo isn't even subject of the discussion. The HoG and possibly even Pick after the Philo is. For the Philo it is easy to explain why you get it: HP5, MP5 and it builds into Reverie. The gold/10 is a bonus. Now that this current-metagame-support has a Philo, he opts for a HoG next. Why? Kindlegem is of comparable cost, slightly less HP, 10 CDR extra. And it ALSO builds into Reverie. This would only make sense if the gold/10 was extremely good (it has to compare to a fricken 3 sec 40% team wide MSpd boost, which HoG delays by like 8 minutes). And ONLY IF it is so good, I raise the question why nobody gets it on ADs. You continuous make the leap in logic that since second g/10 is worth it on support, it MUST be worth it on AD carry because they can get it even earlier. Even though people repeatedly tell you that you cannot make such a leap in logic because AD carries want to put themselves in a position to snowball. If i wanted to give my Sona a better chance to snowball I must just get that kindlegem, but I know it's not gonna happen so I take my HoG. On an AD carry I have a decent chance of snowballing so I take another Dblade over a d/10. the only decent gp10 items on ad or avaric and philo stone, and i don't even pick those up unless my lane phase is complete and utter shit. Might aswell /ff if you get GP10s when you are behind already.
I disagree, if you're tower hugging super hard, cause of shit lane, the items pay for themselves over a long period o time, and as long as you're not retarded with last hitting under tower, you can see yourself catching up towards midgame.
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On January 02 2012 07:23 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 07:16 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:On January 02 2012 01:46 Feartheguru wrote:On January 01 2012 23:49 spinesheath wrote:On January 01 2012 23:29 JackDino wrote:
Except a dblade lets you trade better than a philo on an AD, having a hp crystal or a cloth armour won't let you trade that much more than having a philo, and the philo gives you some gold at the same time. That Philo isn't even subject of the discussion. The HoG and possibly even Pick after the Philo is. For the Philo it is easy to explain why you get it: HP5, MP5 and it builds into Reverie. The gold/10 is a bonus. Now that this current-metagame-support has a Philo, he opts for a HoG next. Why? Kindlegem is of comparable cost, slightly less HP, 10 CDR extra. And it ALSO builds into Reverie. This would only make sense if the gold/10 was extremely good (it has to compare to a fricken 3 sec 40% team wide MSpd boost, which HoG delays by like 8 minutes). And ONLY IF it is so good, I raise the question why nobody gets it on ADs. You continuous make the leap in logic that since second g/10 is worth it on support, it MUST be worth it on AD carry because they can get it even earlier. Even though people repeatedly tell you that you cannot make such a leap in logic because AD carries want to put themselves in a position to snowball. If i wanted to give my Sona a better chance to snowball I must just get that kindlegem, but I know it's not gonna happen so I take my HoG. On an AD carry I have a decent chance of snowballing so I take another Dblade over a d/10. the only decent gp10 items on ad or avaric and philo stone, and i don't even pick those up unless my lane phase is complete and utter shit. Might aswell /ff if you get GP10s when you are behind already. I disagree, if you're tower hugging super hard, cause of shit lane, the items pay for themselves over a long period o time, and as long as you're not retarded with last hitting under tower, you can see yourself catching up towards midgame.
Getting GP10 when you're behind is actually really bad because your items are delayed because you are behind a lot, and buying gp10 delays them so so much more. Having a pickaxe on an AD gives you a better chance at a comeback then a philo stone. Most comebacks are from enemies fucking up anyways, real items help you survive, gp10 doesn't and gets you dived more easily.
Since apparently no one takes cv anymore, they should make it deal 1 or 5 true damage so you get assists and in rare cases snipe kills/kill safe targets.
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Whatever happened to 6v6 Twisted Treelines? I used to play those all the time.. Did they patch it out of the game?
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I don't think CV will make a comeback even if they didn't nerf it 'cause of the new jungle and because of how strong Heal is now. When/if they nerf Heal or buff CV back to how it used to be it might come back. I wouldn't want it to do any damage, even a miniscule amount.
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And even if they nerf Heal I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of ADs started to run Cleanse and supports continue running like Exhaust/Ignite or something. New jungle clears so fast that CV's utility just isn't as good imo.
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On January 02 2012 07:23 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 07:16 Shiv. wrote:On January 02 2012 03:05 wei2coolman wrote:On January 02 2012 01:46 Feartheguru wrote:On January 01 2012 23:49 spinesheath wrote:On January 01 2012 23:29 JackDino wrote:
Except a dblade lets you trade better than a philo on an AD, having a hp crystal or a cloth armour won't let you trade that much more than having a philo, and the philo gives you some gold at the same time. That Philo isn't even subject of the discussion. The HoG and possibly even Pick after the Philo is. For the Philo it is easy to explain why you get it: HP5, MP5 and it builds into Reverie. The gold/10 is a bonus. Now that this current-metagame-support has a Philo, he opts for a HoG next. Why? Kindlegem is of comparable cost, slightly less HP, 10 CDR extra. And it ALSO builds into Reverie. This would only make sense if the gold/10 was extremely good (it has to compare to a fricken 3 sec 40% team wide MSpd boost, which HoG delays by like 8 minutes). And ONLY IF it is so good, I raise the question why nobody gets it on ADs. You continuous make the leap in logic that since second g/10 is worth it on support, it MUST be worth it on AD carry because they can get it even earlier. Even though people repeatedly tell you that you cannot make such a leap in logic because AD carries want to put themselves in a position to snowball. If i wanted to give my Sona a better chance to snowball I must just get that kindlegem, but I know it's not gonna happen so I take my HoG. On an AD carry I have a decent chance of snowballing so I take another Dblade over a d/10. the only decent gp10 items on ad or avaric and philo stone, and i don't even pick those up unless my lane phase is complete and utter shit. Might aswell /ff if you get GP10s when you are behind already. I disagree, if you're tower hugging super hard, cause of shit lane, the items pay for themselves over a long period o time, and as long as you're not retarded with last hitting under tower, you can see yourself catching up towards midgame.
If that is the case, you are playing against opponents who are stupid. If they realize you are behind and put gold into an item that does not benefit you RIGHT NOW as much as an ohter item for the same amount of gold could have, they should not let you hug towers at all. They should be pushing turrets, forcing team fights and objectives, punishing you for the mistake to think you could get away with stalling the game on when you are behind. Don't rely on your opponents to be bad in order to win games.
That's not even mentioning the possibility they are good enough to freeze a lane post river.
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On January 02 2012 07:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
Apparently baylife is actually a san francisco thing originally, kind of funny that I heard about it through lol.
Baylife is a thing at a lot of highschools in the bay area >.>
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On January 02 2012 07:43 overt wrote:
I don't think CV will make a comeback even if they didn't nerf it 'cause of the new jungle and because of how strong Heal is now. When/if they nerf Heal or buff CV back to how it used to be it might come back. I wouldn't want it to do any damage, even a miniscule amount.
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And even if they nerf Heal I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of ADs started to run Cleanse and supports continue running like Exhaust/Ignite or something. New jungle clears so fast that CV's utility just isn't as good imo.
i would still run cv against any hyper-aggressive jungler like shaco. Being able to keep tabs on him in the early game can be invaluable. Overall tho, i'm starting to agree that mybe cv isn't as mandatory as it used to be. It just depends on whether you want to sacrifice some map awareness to win your lane. I'd prob take it on soraka too, since i primarily play her as a defensive support.
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I've seen some people discussing 20 page before on the existence of elo hell or not, and someone saying it has something to do with the Dunning-Kruger effet.
In my opinion elo hell exist but it's not a question of skill.
Between 1000-1400 elo, there are a lot of players who are accustomed to one specific hero, most of the time the kind of noobshit hero that can penta kill in good situations such as trynda, irelia, gangplank, kassadin, etc. or heavy gankers like nocturne or shaco, and those players basically know how to play but have the bad habit to play too agressiv and too ganky, so they can only 1) kill everybody 2) die like trash alone and never fight with their teams.
And since those players are so accustomed to their 1 or 2 best heroes, they will only be able to really play 1 or 2 of all the different positions within the team (support / jungle / ad carry / mid / top).
So when one of those guys, that knows how to play (because the skill ceiling is low on LOL) but are accustomed to play alone and not in team and play too agressiv, are forced to play a role they are not accustomed to or just can't get the usual 2-3 free kill they get early in their normal matches, they just suck and you get a random ally that feed like mad.
Just wanted to say it because I've had my share of bad ally when I was under 1400-1500 and it was not a fluke - I even fed myself when I was forced to play something I usually don't play.
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elo hell, the term that means absolutely whatever the fuck you want it to.
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On January 02 2012 07:59 Perplex wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 07:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
Apparently baylife is actually a san francisco thing originally, kind of funny that I heard about it through lol. Baylife is a thing at a lot of highschools in the bay area >.>
Can someone explain to a poor german wtf "Baylife" is supposed to mean and what context it is used in? :S
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On January 02 2012 08:14 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 07:59 Perplex wrote:On January 02 2012 07:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
Apparently baylife is actually a san francisco thing originally, kind of funny that I heard about it through lol. Baylife is a thing at a lot of highschools in the bay area >.> Can someone explain to a poor german wtf "Baylife" is supposed to mean and what context it is used in? :S
I don't think anyone can answer that.
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On January 02 2012 07:59 Perplex wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 07:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
Apparently baylife is actually a san francisco thing originally, kind of funny that I heard about it through lol. Baylife is a thing at a lot of highschools in the bay area >.>
Ah, there we go. I live in the bay area but... you know... not in high school.
On January 02 2012 08:14 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 07:59 Perplex wrote:On January 02 2012 07:01 UniversalSnip wrote:
Apparently baylife is actually a san francisco thing originally, kind of funny that I heard about it through lol. Baylife is a thing at a lot of highschools in the bay area >.> Can someone explain to a poor german wtf "Baylife" is supposed to mean and what context it is used in? :S
It's a joking way of showing careless disregard
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"Baylife" is just them being purposefully stupid/annoying. It's supposed to be funny. Like, they're purposefully acting like tools in an ironic way.
People who actually use the word "baylife" are basically just saying, "fuck everything who cares we live in cali."
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