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More data on banking:
Maximum gold value you can bank: 4g
Maximum exp value you can bank: 30 exp
Banking starts immediately upon spawn and caps after 2 minutes.
The exp/gold values are approximate. They actually vary slightly from camp to camp and do scale ever so slightly over the course of the game, but I'm pretty sure that no one cares that you can bank 6g on Wraiths instead of 3g after the 40 minute mark.
During testing I also discovered that gold/exp value of camps is determined upon their time of spawning. If you leave a creep camp sitting there for 6-10 minutes it will actually be worth less than one that just spawned, even with banking.
To get a better picture of how banking actually affects ganking, if you clear wolves-golems, gank, and arrive back at golems just as they spawn and clear back to wolves you'll get an additional 26 exp and 3g from banking. However, that's to offset the 170+ exp and 87g you cost yourself by ganking.
I think the numbers are tuned too low, because that sucks. That's barely an incentive for me to gank, and certainly not an incentive for me to counter-jungle.
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On December 04 2011 07:24 BloodNinja wrote:Turtle stance to regen hp and put up your shield. Then Phoenix clears the wave. Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 07:23 NotSorry wrote:
really not impressed at all with hotshot, why does he get so many viewers with that subpar play? What? He is about the only thing that went well that game.
leaving your team to lose 4v5s while you farm top and then even farmed manage to do nothing, doesn't sound like going "well" to me
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On December 04 2011 07:35 BlackMagister wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 07:31 DoXa wrote:
yeah, he streamed when nobody else was streaming, so he got ~18k viewers. Someone asked him if he doesnt need sleep, he says: no, i need money... The real reason CLG needs a teamhouse is to make sure SV takes care of himself lol.
I think I heard Hotshot say:"First thing we need is a baby sitter for saintvicious lolol" or something like that.
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Gah I cant believe dignitas got a free trip to kiev. Shit is wack westrice. Your shit is wack.
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v8 Vs Dignitas is really exciting... doesn't look like a standard game at all. So much action
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Saint streams at weird times because he doesn't want to compete with Hotshot.
On December 04 2011 07:29 LoCicero wrote:
Here are my thoughts on CLG play:
1) Neither solo lane put down wards. This ultimately led to dragon control and free ganks (3v2 gank top against Hotshot/SV)
2) Trist and Alistar will always beat Vayne and Janna, horribly outpicked there
3) Chauster didn't have dragon warded. That is support's #1 objective imo.
4) They need someone who calls strategies and game play plans. Ultimately if you have 5 people trying to figure out what to do you will be indecisive and slow. They should set up a game plan and try to execute it: i.e. play a game based around dragon control. Pick strong early champs and try to get early dragons and towers. They could pick strong pushers and give up dragons to take towers, etc. Something, anything is better than what they're doing at the moment.
The biggest issue in my eyes is 1 and 3. Ultimately that is what caused them to lose the game. If I had a team solo lanes would be in charge of having a ward up almost 100% of the time. Two wards mid and 2 wards top. Support is in charge of keeping dragon warded at all times (chauster never had it warded). Just really poor play.
Very much agreed. Chauster makes nice leads on some supports, but his warding and timing is subpar. I'd also argue that Saint being almost a non-presence both games was also a crucial problem.
I totally want to see you make a team. I think you'd be a great leader. ^^
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They lost by picks imo. Udyr vs yorick and shyvana as jungler
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United States37500 Posts
On December 04 2011 07:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
Gah I cant believe dignitas got a free trip to kiev. Shit is wack westrice. Your shit is wack.
Can't complain.
huehue
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Does bobbyhankhill even play the game or practice with EG? Last time I've seen him play he couldn't even jungle trynd lol.
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On December 04 2011 07:36 NotSorry wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 07:24 BloodNinja wrote:Turtle stance to regen hp and put up your shield. Then Phoenix clears the wave. On December 04 2011 07:23 NotSorry wrote:
really not impressed at all with hotshot, why does he get so many viewers with that subpar play? What? He is about the only thing that went well that game. leaving your team to lose 4v5s while you farm top and then even farmed manage to do nothing, doesn't sound like going "well" to me
The ONLY shot CLG had at that point was HSGG farming like mad until he was un-killable. Having hotshot come down to fight in 5v5s that were already lost does nothing but lose the game faster.
If you are looking for the poor play that last game look real hard at SV and Jiji. Chauster's Janna was pretty mediocre as well, but it wasnt as bad as SV or Jiji.
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On December 04 2011 07:44 BloodNinja wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 07:36 NotSorry wrote:On December 04 2011 07:24 BloodNinja wrote:Turtle stance to regen hp and put up your shield. Then Phoenix clears the wave. On December 04 2011 07:23 NotSorry wrote:
really not impressed at all with hotshot, why does he get so many viewers with that subpar play? What? He is about the only thing that went well that game. leaving your team to lose 4v5s while you farm top and then even farmed manage to do nothing, doesn't sound like going "well" to me The ONLY shot CLG had at that point was HSGG farming like mad until he was un-killable. Having hotshot come down to fight in 5v5s that were already lost does nothing but lose the game faster.
what, hotshot was not unkillable, he probably died the most .......
and also, imo hotshot should just stick to nidalee/chogath/galio
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What happened to salce? They got west back, but lost their single most important player.
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On December 04 2011 07:48 Two_DoWn wrote:
What happened to salce? They got west back, but lost their single most important player.
Sounds like he had to leave. Guess they didnt think Westrice was gonna make it.
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Too bad hotshot picked a champion who doesn't scale that well with farm and has 0 carrying potential if the rest of your team lacks damage output. No matter how tanky Udyr gets, he'll still drop like a brick to a farmed trist/ryze.
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On December 04 2011 07:38 MoonBear wrote:Saint streams at weird times because he doesn't want to compete with Hotshot. Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 07:29 LoCicero wrote:
Here are my thoughts on CLG play:
1) Neither solo lane put down wards. This ultimately led to dragon control and free ganks (3v2 gank top against Hotshot/SV)
2) Trist and Alistar will always beat Vayne and Janna, horribly outpicked there
3) Chauster didn't have dragon warded. That is support's #1 objective imo.
4) They need someone who calls strategies and game play plans. Ultimately if you have 5 people trying to figure out what to do you will be indecisive and slow. They should set up a game plan and try to execute it: i.e. play a game based around dragon control. Pick strong early champs and try to get early dragons and towers. They could pick strong pushers and give up dragons to take towers, etc. Something, anything is better than what they're doing at the moment.
The biggest issue in my eyes is 1 and 3. Ultimately that is what caused them to lose the game. If I had a team solo lanes would be in charge of having a ward up almost 100% of the time. Two wards mid and 2 wards top. Support is in charge of keeping dragon warded at all times (chauster never had it warded). Just really poor play.
Very much agreed. Chauster makes nice leads on some supports, but his warding and timing is subpar. I'd also argue that Saint being almost a non-presence both games was also a crucial problem. I totally want to see you make a team. I think you'd be a great leader. ^^
like ppl still believing chauster is a good support -.-
No ward, no engage even when he was alistar(thats why SV died so many times). Chauster is very very good at alistar WQ combo though. ya, basically chauster is only good at WQ combo =/
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On December 04 2011 07:47 tobi9999 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 07:44 BloodNinja wrote:On December 04 2011 07:36 NotSorry wrote:On December 04 2011 07:24 BloodNinja wrote:Turtle stance to regen hp and put up your shield. Then Phoenix clears the wave. On December 04 2011 07:23 NotSorry wrote:
really not impressed at all with hotshot, why does he get so many viewers with that subpar play? What? He is about the only thing that went well that game. leaving your team to lose 4v5s while you farm top and then even farmed manage to do nothing, doesn't sound like going "well" to me The ONLY shot CLG had at that point was HSGG farming like mad until he was un-killable. Having hotshot come down to fight in 5v5s that were already lost does nothing but lose the game faster. what, hotshot was not unkillable, he probably died the most ....... and also, imo hotshot should just stick to nidalee/chogath/galio
I said trying to farm until he got unkillable. Not that he was unkillable. Dont put words in my mouth please.
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United States37500 Posts
CLG's loss can be chalked up to:
Chauster: not warding well
saint: Shyvana pick is probably subpar. Lack of a jungle CC will hurt in team fights
jiji: need more Xerath practice jijimon
Double still hasn't gotten over his overextending problem but it wasn't a major factor to why CLG lost to Crs today.
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SALCE PLAYING GRAVES FOR EG?
lOL WHAT
wow, they really do know how to play every role
edit: nvm it's a sub i am disappoint
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Man, since the new patch the game runs horribly. You almost always have to wait when logging in and the champion selection bugs out every second time.
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On December 04 2011 07:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
CLG's loss can be chalked up to:
Chauster: not warding well
saint: Shyvana pick is probably subpar. Lack of a jungle CC will hurt in team fights
jiji: need more Xerath practice jijimon
Double still hasn't gotten over his overextending problem but it wasn't a major factor to why CLG lost to Crs today.
im agree but u missed hotshot =(
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