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5% still is a LOT.
21 instead of 15 utility means 6% lower cooldowns and 15% lower summoner cooldowns. That's pretty clutch on champs that rely on spells and flash.
On AD, you either want the full 21 utility (Flash and Exhaust cooldowns), or you just drop everything into offense. 21 offense means a pretty decent boost in earlygame damage output, and about 10% increased DPS lategame when you start critting a lot.
As trynd I can do 1200 DMG per hit but with 5% it is maybe + 60dmg (no AD just DMG)? BUT When i move really fast I can be on my target and even 1 hit does more than some 5% and + 10% on crit is just a joke. Movement speed is tooooo good in this game
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And if your target is stunned or slowed a lot (Mocking Shout), all that MSpd is wasted. If the enemy flashes away with 10 HP your 3% MSpd won't do anything.
It very much depends on the champion you play, your allies, your enemies, your playstyle, and hell even the enemy playstyle.
Just to be clear: I'm not saying that 21 offense is better than 21 utility. I'm not saying the opposite either.
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all the shit is situational
you pick what usually gets the best results for you
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Woops my bad recalled the silence as a .1sec silence, not 1sec.
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United States47024 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:48 NIIINO wrote:
So i was thinking about masteries and I have still no idea why ppl go 21/0/9 or 9/0/21 when the late points are totally useless. +5% in LoL is nothing.
Why dont you use 11/4/15 for AD carry and 9/6/15 for AP carry ?
+ if you use movement q = ownage on ad
The only way to compare masteries in any reasonable fashion is gold value. Of course all the masteries are worth very little, but the incentive for 21 offense is that Havoc very quickly becomes the highest gold value per mastery point in the game simply because of how it scales.
Sure "+%5% is nothing" but why the hell are you dumping 4 points in first tier defense then? Havoc has the potential to, with a single mastery point, provide more gold value than those 4 full mastery points.
On October 30 2011 20:04 spinesheath wrote:
And if your target is stunned or slowed a lot (Mocking Shout), all that MSpd is wasted. If the enemy flashes away with 10 HP your 3% MSpd won't do anything.
It very much depends on the champion you play, your allies, your enemies, your playstyle, and hell even the enemy playstyle.
Just to be clear: I'm not saying that 21 offense is better than 21 utility. I'm not saying the opposite either.
The issue he's raising isn't 21 offense vs. 21 utility. He's saying the end-tier masteries are bad, which is somewhat silly, given that if you crunch the gold value on Havoc, it very quickly becomes the highest gold-value-per-mastery-point in the game. Likewise, Lethality is a very high-value mastery because it and Infinity Edge are the only reasonable sources of Crit Damage as a DPS stat--which makes it scale ridiculously well off your other DPS stats.
End-tier utility is harder to measure the usefulness of, given that there are absolutely no other sources of summoner spell CDR in the game.
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Are runes half price over the this holiday? I could have sworn ad quints were 2000.
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On October 30 2011 22:19 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Are runes half price over the this holiday? I could have sworn ad quints were 2000.
Nope. They never were 2050.
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how long there is no pro LoL drama thread ? we really need it right now because Wickd left SK and its gonna be huge blame fest. could be fun.
Because he thinks that SK doesnt care THAT MUCH anymore. could be just because its 2 weeks after IEM.
BTW he is probably going to play with wetdream :X
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England2675 Posts
On October 30 2011 22:51 NIIINO wrote:
how long there is no pro LoL drama thread ? we really need it right now because Wickd left SK and its gonna be huge blame fest. could be fun.
Because he thinks that SK doesnt care THAT MUCH anymore. could be just because its 2 weeks after IEM.
BTW he is probably going to play with wetdream :X
Got any sources for this?
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On October 30 2011 22:51 NIIINO wrote:
how long there is no pro LoL drama thread ? we really need it right now because Wickd left SK and its gonna be huge blame fest.
Oh really ? That explains why he was streaming so much BF3 these last hours.
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sources ? Oces and Wickds facebook fan page, also he explained it on stream.
But I hope he keeps playing BF3 I enjoy his flying skills + Show Spoiler +
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On October 30 2011 22:53 Flicky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 22:51 NIIINO wrote:
how long there is no pro LoL drama thread ? we really need it right now because Wickd left SK and its gonna be huge blame fest. could be fun.
Because he thinks that SK doesnt care THAT MUCH anymore. could be just because its 2 weeks after IEM.
BTW he is probably going to play with wetdream :X Got any sources for this?
http://www.absolutelegends.eu/news/355/Wickd-leaves-SK-Gaming
Was no surprising and I understand him.
Btw the player he talks about he has problems with is not Oce as some might assume but CandyPanda.
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Also I dont underdstand why people always call it "drama" when someone leaves a team. These players are not married to each other.
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As if drama only exists between married couples.
I know on more than one occasion during scrims wickd kept asking candypanda why he wasn't talking (and this was many weeks ago). Knowing wickd's ego and proclivity toward being a douche, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason he wasn't talking is because of wickd.
I'm a little surprised that it's wickd choosing to leave, but I'm not at all surprised that someone left. SK hasn't been very stable for some time, their sponsor is notoriously bad, and their performance has been mostly mediocre in tournaments.
Linak may have also left Millenium, but Millenium is basically dead already so that wouldn't mean much.
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Which champs are good counterpicks for malzahar? (in lane and in general)
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I play Malz a lot, personally I dont much like fighting talon, a good Morde could give headaches but I havent played against any post-nerf, Brand is a fair match-up, as Akali i tend to eat Malz mid, Morgana does well against him aswell. Xerath is a bit of a toss-up I guess.
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As Malz is pretty good pusher I'd say hat someone like Morg is definitely great (and her ult still maybe work during a suppress like during Zonyha). Someone with good mobility could avoid most of his skills too.
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Talon and Morg are pretty fantastic against most casters.
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I have this obsession of just trying to max CDR on almost all champions I play. Is it normal?
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On October 31 2011 00:03 lynx.oblige wrote:
Talon and Morg are pretty fantastic against most casters.
and Kass... and kass....
+ Show Spoiler +
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