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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 30 2011 06:13 GMT
#2981
On October 30 2011 12:37 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 12:11 Phunkapotamus wrote:
Alrighty TL, help me pick a pubstomping champion.

It used to be Nidalee for me, but she just hasn't been the same since the nerfs.

Tell me who to play that will allow me to eke out the most advantage over someone lesser skilled than I. Someone to just absolutely dominate like pre-nerf Morde- but someone who doesn't take a ton of farm. I'd like the games to go quick. I'm going to be raising a friend's account with this character.


pick garen

take flash ignite

regardless of your hp and enemies hp, at level 6 flash onto them q, e, ignite, then ult

theres your pub stomp champion

This is an incomplete guide.

You forgot on solotop at lvl 1 you wait until they lasthit, then do hit -> Q -> hit and they're at 30% hp. Wait until lvl 2, flash, Q E ignite, kill.

Works always unless they tower hug until pots heal them to full but then you get exp and gold lead.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 30 2011 06:25 GMT
#2982
What's better when going early bruta, AD quints + reds, apen quints + reds, or mix of both?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 30 2011 06:30 GMT
#2983
On October 30 2011 15:25 HazMat wrote:
What's better when going early bruta, AD quints + reds, apen quints + reds, or mix of both?


depends on your champ, your scaling, and which opponents you're focusing ofc BUT
i think AD quints arpen reds is the most optimal grouping for going after low armor targets. combined with bruta's arpen you do near true damage with pretty good AD boost as well
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 30 2011 06:35 GMT
#2984
I think that depends on how much armor they have.
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 06:51:04
October 30 2011 06:49 GMT
#2985
Why don't people jungle Renekton? I just got him and I think he would be quite suitable in the jungle with his heals and such. At least as much as Tryndamere/Yi/someone else who's not an exceptional jungler.
LOUD NOISES!!!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 30 2011 06:50 GMT
#2986
On October 30 2011 15:30 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 15:25 HazMat wrote:
What's better when going early bruta, AD quints + reds, apen quints + reds, or mix of both?


depends on your champ, your scaling, and which opponents you're focusing ofc BUT
i think AD quints arpen reds is the most optimal grouping for going after low armor targets. combined with bruta's arpen you do near true damage with pretty good AD boost as well

Okay thanks, that's what I usually but just making sure.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 30 2011 06:51 GMT
#2987
On October 30 2011 15:49 Lorken wrote:
Why don't people jungle Renekton? I just got him and I think he would be quite suitable in the jungle with his heals and such.


he's like the strongest laner in the early game
impossible to kill and outputs insane damage with no offensive items
and he scales pretty poorly into the lategame unless he has a TON of good items
so why would you put him in the place where he can't dominate anyone 1v1 and doesn't even get enough farm to make your support player jealous?

that's why
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 30 2011 07:00 GMT
#2988
On October 30 2011 15:49 Lorken wrote:
Why don't people jungle Renekton? I just got him and I think he would be quite suitable in the jungle with his heals and such. At least as much as Tryndamere/Yi/someone else who's not an exceptional jungler.


his heal sucks vs creeps
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
October 30 2011 07:08 GMT
#2989
Fuck it, I'm done.
Who wants my account? If anyone.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 30 2011 07:09 GMT
#2990
ill have it sir.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
jamster1211
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan153 Posts
October 30 2011 08:39 GMT
#2991
is it just me or does saintvicious sound exactly like destiny? oO
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 08:49:30
October 30 2011 08:48 GMT
#2992
So i was thinking about masteries and I have still no idea why ppl go 21/0/9 or 9/0/21 when the late points are totally useless. +5% in LoL is nothing.
Why dont you use 11/4/15 for AD carry and 9/6/15 for AP carry ?
+ if you use movement q = ownage on ad
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 30 2011 08:57 GMT
#2993
On October 30 2011 17:48 NIIINO wrote:
So i was thinking about masteries and I have still no idea why ppl go 21/0/9 or 9/0/21 when the late points are totally useless. +5% in LoL is nothing.
Why dont you use 11/4/15 for AD carry and 9/6/15 for AP carry ?
+ if you use movement q = ownage on ad

5% still is a LOT.

21 instead of 15 utility means 6% lower cooldowns and 15% lower summoner cooldowns. That's pretty clutch on champs that rely on spells and flash.
On AD, you either want the full 21 utility (Flash and Exhaust cooldowns), or you just drop everything into offense. 21 offense means a pretty decent boost in earlygame damage output, and about 10% increased DPS lategame when you start critting a lot.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
October 30 2011 09:13 GMT
#2994
Saintvicious is just such a bad person. UGH. I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him !!!
MIK Terran
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 09:37:27
October 30 2011 09:25 GMT
#2995
On October 30 2011 11:27 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 11:19 overt wrote:
On October 30 2011 11:08 dignity wrote:
Wouldn't it be downright suicidal to push a talon as Sivir?


Not really, you have spell shield for a reason. You just have to be smart enough to know when he's about to jump you.

Hotshot has been playing a lot of top lane Nocturne lately. It's pretty fun to see.

Talons silence has no animation, it can't be blocked by a spell shield because if you shield early then he just doesn't jump, and as it has no animation you can't reaction shield it...

And since boomerang DOES have an animation you can't use it to harass because talon will jump behind you when you try to rang him.
Also rake has like no cooldown so he can always rake to bait the sPellshield then wait 6 seconds and full combo you

But i do think sivir can beat akali

So you just boomerang and insta spellshield? better spellshiled the rake or ult anyways, spellshielding the jump is kinda useless.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
October 30 2011 09:32 GMT
#2996
On October 30 2011 12:11 Phunkapotamus wrote:
Alrighty TL, help me pick a pubstomping champion.

It used to be Nidalee for me, but she just hasn't been the same since the nerfs.

Tell me who to play that will allow me to eke out the most advantage over someone lesser skilled than I. Someone to just absolutely dominate like pre-nerf Morde- but someone who doesn't take a ton of farm. I'd like the games to go quick. I'm going to be raising a friend's account with this character.

Don't listen to the others and play mid Sion with mob boots + 2 dorans into Rabadon. Push your lane, gank, push, back, repeat. Unlosable as it will make your team win all lanes.
The legend of Darien lives on
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
October 30 2011 10:19 GMT
#2997
On October 30 2011 18:25 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 11:27 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 30 2011 11:19 overt wrote:
On October 30 2011 11:08 dignity wrote:
Wouldn't it be downright suicidal to push a talon as Sivir?


Not really, you have spell shield for a reason. You just have to be smart enough to know when he's about to jump you.

Hotshot has been playing a lot of top lane Nocturne lately. It's pretty fun to see.

Talons silence has no animation, it can't be blocked by a spell shield because if you shield early then he just doesn't jump, and as it has no animation you can't reaction shield it...

And since boomerang DOES have an animation you can't use it to harass because talon will jump behind you when you try to rang him.
Also rake has like no cooldown so he can always rake to bait the sPellshield then wait 6 seconds and full combo you

But i do think sivir can beat akali

So you just boomerang and insta spellshield? better spellshiled the rake or ult anyways, spellshielding the jump is kinda useless.

How to spellshield while silenced.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
October 30 2011 10:24 GMT
#2998
On October 30 2011 18:13 Ruken wrote:
Saintvicious is just such a bad person. UGH. I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him !!!


Chrispy likes this post. (thumbs)
Retvrn to Forvms
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 10:47:00
October 30 2011 10:46 GMT
#2999
On October 30 2011 19:19 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 18:25 JackDino wrote:
On October 30 2011 11:27 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 30 2011 11:19 overt wrote:
On October 30 2011 11:08 dignity wrote:
Wouldn't it be downright suicidal to push a talon as Sivir?


Not really, you have spell shield for a reason. You just have to be smart enough to know when he's about to jump you.

Hotshot has been playing a lot of top lane Nocturne lately. It's pretty fun to see.

Talons silence has no animation, it can't be blocked by a spell shield because if you shield early then he just doesn't jump, and as it has no animation you can't reaction shield it...

And since boomerang DOES have an animation you can't use it to harass because talon will jump behind you when you try to rang him.
Also rake has like no cooldown so he can always rake to bait the sPellshield then wait 6 seconds and full combo you

But i do think sivir can beat akali

So you just boomerang and insta spellshield? better spellshiled the rake or ult anyways, spellshielding the jump is kinda useless.

How to spellshield while silenced.


yea i don't get this, the jump is instant, if you want to use the shield preemptively you'll just waste it, if the jump is landed, you'll take the full combo thanks to the silence, someone just pulled this out of his ass l0l
And all is illuminated.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
October 30 2011 10:48 GMT
#3000
no, you CAN block the jump with good timing, but my point was that if you don't block the jump, you aren't blocking anything else anyway.
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