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spacemonkey4eve
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States267 Posts
October 30 2011 15:49 GMT
#3021
As I hop onto the fotm that is sion, I realized how much he owns against most mid, including talon. Just shield to absorb damage and stun/burst = win all trades. Slap on boots of mobility and you're a ganking machine it's pretty ridiculous.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 30 2011 15:57 GMT
#3022
On October 30 2011 23:47 Kaniol wrote:
Which champs are good counterpicks for malzahar? (in lane and in general)


In lane: Anyone who can push hard (because malz tends to do this so you need to be able to not lose all your cs to the tower) and has decent mobility to avoid his abilities.

In general: People with gap closers, forms of hard CC, or suppression removing abilities deal with him really well in teamfights
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 30 2011 15:59 GMT
#3023
On October 31 2011 00:29 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I have this obsession of just trying to max CDR on almost all champions I play. Is it normal?

This definitely is normal for players new to the game.
It's good on many champs (all casters max CDR basically), but you have to do it correctly.
In most cases that means: no CDR runes.

Most casters go 9/0/21, blue buff and blue elixier for 39% CDR.
Many supports go CDR boots + Reverie + 9/0/21 or 0/9/21 for 39/34% CDR.
AD melee DPS like Ghostblade or just Brutalizer, or both, sometimes Reverie, sometimes CDR boots. Those champs typically don't focus on maxing their CDR though.
Ranged ADs usually don't care about CDR.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
October 30 2011 16:06 GMT
#3024
On October 31 2011 00:36 RogerX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 00:03 lynx.oblige wrote:
Talon and Morg are pretty fantastic against most casters.

and Kass... and kass....
+ Show Spoiler +
T_T

Kass is perma banned atm :D
The legend of Darien lives on
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 30 2011 16:17 GMT
#3025
On October 31 2011 01:06 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 00:36 RogerX wrote:
On October 31 2011 00:03 lynx.oblige wrote:
Talon and Morg are pretty fantastic against most casters.

and Kass... and kass....
+ Show Spoiler +
T_T

Kass is perma banned atm :D

Kass is almost never banned in my games lol, maybe 1 out of 10games he's banned.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 30 2011 16:28 GMT
#3026
Mines probably about 3-4 out of 10. People still beat Kass, I've GP vs Kass and won every single time and that's just one champion.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 30 2011 16:31 GMT
#3027
But GP isn't ap so you can't put him against kassa kassa mid GP top!!!!111!
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 30 2011 16:33 GMT
#3028
His ult does magic damage.

mind gank
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
October 30 2011 16:35 GMT
#3029
His heal scales on ap.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
October 30 2011 16:36 GMT
#3030
wickd raging hard @ IRC on his stream atm. For those who enjoy drama
hi
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 16:43:27
October 30 2011 16:42 GMT
#3031
On October 31 2011 00:59 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 00:29 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I have this obsession of just trying to max CDR on almost all champions I play. Is it normal?

This definitely is normal for players new to the game.
It's good on many champs (all casters max CDR basically), but you have to do it correctly.
In most cases that means: no CDR runes.

Most casters go 9/0/21, blue buff and blue elixier for 39% CDR.
Many supports go CDR boots + Reverie + 9/0/21 or 0/9/21 for 39/34% CDR.
AD melee DPS like Ghostblade or just Brutalizer, or both, sometimes Reverie, sometimes CDR boots. Those champs typically don't focus on maxing their CDR though.
Ranged ADs usually don't care about CDR.

Is Morello's evil tome good, for someone like leblanc? I always get that on her as my 2nd major item
Btw, 30%+ CDR chogath is sooo fun ;D
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
October 30 2011 16:43 GMT
#3032
Morello's Evil Tome is only good if
1) you are a caster
2) you, for whatever reason, cannot get blue buff
3) you don't need deathcap to 100-0 people OR already have deathcap
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 30 2011 16:46 GMT
#3033
On October 31 2011 01:43 Tooplark wrote:
Morello's Evil Tome is only good if
1) you are a caster
2) you, for whatever reason, cannot get blue buff
3) you don't need deathcap to 100-0 people OR already have deathcap

I'd still rather have DFG than Morello's unless your kit makes it impractical for you to use the DFG active.
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SpaceToaster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
October 30 2011 16:50 GMT
#3034
On October 31 2011 01:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 01:43 Tooplark wrote:
Morello's Evil Tome is only good if
1) you are a caster
2) you, for whatever reason, cannot get blue buff
3) you don't need deathcap to 100-0 people OR already have deathcap

I'd still rather have DFG than Morello's unless your kit makes it impractical for you to use the DFG active.


I don't mind Morello's on Lux exactly for that reason. Would still rather runes+masteries+ionians though (w/ blue buff or elixir).
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 30 2011 17:13 GMT
#3035
On October 31 2011 01:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 01:43 Tooplark wrote:
Morello's Evil Tome is only good if
1) you are a caster
2) you, for whatever reason, cannot get blue buff
3) you don't need deathcap to 100-0 people OR already have deathcap

I'd still rather have DFG than Morello's unless your kit makes it impractical for you to use the DFG active.


snowster runs morello's as core on karma after deathcap and i think it's really good on her
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 30 2011 17:30 GMT
#3036
On October 31 2011 02:13 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 01:46 TheYango wrote:
On October 31 2011 01:43 Tooplark wrote:
Morello's Evil Tome is only good if
1) you are a caster
2) you, for whatever reason, cannot get blue buff
3) you don't need deathcap to 100-0 people OR already have deathcap

I'd still rather have DFG than Morello's unless your kit makes it impractical for you to use the DFG active.


snowster runs morello's as core on karma after deathcap and i think it's really good on her

I'd count that as "impractical" given how much of the AP benefit in Karma's kit goes toward non-damage utility.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 17:39:25
October 30 2011 17:38 GMT
#3037
On October 31 2011 01:17 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 01:06 mr_tolkien wrote:
On October 31 2011 00:36 RogerX wrote:
On October 31 2011 00:03 lynx.oblige wrote:
Talon and Morg are pretty fantastic against most casters.

and Kass... and kass....
+ Show Spoiler +
T_T

Kass is perma banned atm :D

Kass is almost never banned in my games lol, maybe 1 out of 10games he's banned.

Not enough bans for all the champs needing it atm.


On October 31 2011 02:30 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 02:13 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 31 2011 01:46 TheYango wrote:
On October 31 2011 01:43 Tooplark wrote:
Morello's Evil Tome is only good if
1) you are a caster
2) you, for whatever reason, cannot get blue buff
3) you don't need deathcap to 100-0 people OR already have deathcap

I'd still rather have DFG than Morello's unless your kit makes it impractical for you to use the DFG active.


snowster runs morello's as core on karma after deathcap and i think it's really good on her

I'd count that as "impractical" given how much of the AP benefit in Karma's kit goes toward non-damage utility.

I wouldn't. CDR for more Mantras helps tremendously.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 30 2011 17:43 GMT
#3038
Lux is the only champ I get Morellos for. It's just perfect for her.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 30 2011 17:45 GMT
#3039
I'd get it on Ori but Ori always gets blue anyways.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 30 2011 17:47 GMT
#3040
On October 31 2011 02:38 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 01:17 JackDino wrote:
On October 31 2011 01:06 mr_tolkien wrote:
On October 31 2011 00:36 RogerX wrote:
On October 31 2011 00:03 lynx.oblige wrote:
Talon and Morg are pretty fantastic against most casters.

and Kass... and kass....
+ Show Spoiler +
T_T

Kass is perma banned atm :D

Kass is almost never banned in my games lol, maybe 1 out of 10games he's banned.

Not enough bans for all the champs needing it atm.


Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 02:30 TheYango wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:13 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 31 2011 01:46 TheYango wrote:
On October 31 2011 01:43 Tooplark wrote:
Morello's Evil Tome is only good if
1) you are a caster
2) you, for whatever reason, cannot get blue buff
3) you don't need deathcap to 100-0 people OR already have deathcap

I'd still rather have DFG than Morello's unless your kit makes it impractical for you to use the DFG active.


snowster runs morello's as core on karma after deathcap and i think it's really good on her

I'd count that as "impractical" given how much of the AP benefit in Karma's kit goes toward non-damage utility.

I wouldn't. CDR for more Mantras helps tremendously.

wouldn't karma hog blue buff anyways?
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