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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 17:55:18
October 30 2011 17:54 GMT
#3041
So i decided to play 5s with my friends, as usually first games are stomps so
[image loading]
Looks so good, not gonna risk playing jarman again till the end of s2
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
October 30 2011 17:57 GMT
#3042
Did they increase the queue dodge timer? My friend dodged because my client bugged and now have to wait 11 mins (maybe was like 15 originally?).
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 30 2011 18:02 GMT
#3043
Only thing I know is that the more you dodge the longer you have to wait.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 30 2011 18:05 GMT
#3044
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=16545523#post16545523

just read till you get to the passive, it makes it all worth it
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 30 2011 18:08 GMT
#3045
re casters:

I primarily play malzahar so my build usually ends up catalyst -> boots -> ROA -> deathcap ->revolver or zhonyas
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 18:34:22
October 30 2011 18:32 GMT
#3046
On October 31 2011 02:43 Haemonculus wrote:
Lux is the only champ I get Morellos for. It's just perfect for her.


9% Masteries + 15% CDR Boots + 20% Morellos makes you 4% over the cap, I'd rather get DFG even if you dont use the active an awful lot. Unless you get's Sorc ofc. But If I would get Sorcs I wouldn't get Morellos/DFG at all.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
October 30 2011 18:33 GMT
#3047
On October 31 2011 02:57 Goshawk. wrote:
Did they increase the queue dodge timer? My friend dodged because my client bugged and now have to wait 11 mins (maybe was like 15 originally?).

1st dodge 5
2nd dodge 15
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 30 2011 18:36 GMT
#3048
Wow, Vladimir is amazing o_O After a losing streak I decided to give him a try and it was just unbelievable. After you get the post-buff Rylais anyone who runs up to you 1v1 is dead unless they can Flash away, you can just permaslow otherwise. The damage's great, again if you get dived by a tanky dps you can kite super well, there's also other benefits like the ulti giving AoE slow as does E...

Really think he's super underrated, that Rylai change just O_O
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
October 30 2011 18:40 GMT
#3049
I wish I didn't lose games because people don't know how to ban. When you can kill rammus with over 450 ad and 350 mr your team isn't doing enough.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 30 2011 18:55 GMT
#3050
On October 31 2011 03:36 Shikyo wrote:
Wow, Vladimir is amazing o_O After a losing streak I decided to give him a try and it was just unbelievable. After you get the post-buff Rylais anyone who runs up to you 1v1 is dead unless they can Flash away, you can just permaslow otherwise. The damage's great, again if you get dived by a tanky dps you can kite super well, there's also other benefits like the ulti giving AoE slow as does E...

Really think he's super underrated, that Rylai change just O_O


I hope we don't have another long discussion about Vlad but yeah. He's definitely still really good as long as you don't get crushed in lane. It's pretty hard not to get crushed in lane though. Like, you have to rely on your opponent being a lot worse than you.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 30 2011 19:10 GMT
#3051
Relating to Malz, I find that ironically he's truly annoying against Morgana since she relies on enemy champ not killing too many melee minions during her pool (when one tick says they survive with low enough hp that a few minion AA can finish them) and he's pushing super fast. She's better at 100-0ing the other one tho if you can get your spells on him before his ult buying time with Black Shield if needed) as she doesn't care about being suppressed after that.

Switching topics, what's the "best" way to build Blitzcrank? I bought him on my smurf (supporting/bruising a lot to help friends new to the game) and have been playing him AD bruiser (manamune, triforce, FH, FoN but I generally don't get enough farm for all the completed stuff). Support is a no-no as that'd be a waste, full tank might be interesting but I'm not too sold on it before I get runes (level 16 smurf), and I'm still wondering how to build him AP-wise (lichbane for sure).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 30 2011 19:11 GMT
#3052
zzz. Overt spouting the same nonsense I disproved yesterday.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
October 30 2011 20:01 GMT
#3053
On October 31 2011 04:10 Alaric wrote:
Relating to Malz, I find that ironically he's truly annoying against Morgana since she relies on enemy champ not killing too many melee minions during her pool (when one tick says they survive with low enough hp that a few minion AA can finish them) and he's pushing super fast. She's better at 100-0ing the other one tho if you can get your spells on him before his ult buying time with Black Shield if needed) as she doesn't care about being suppressed after that.



Malzahar really doesn't "lose" to anyone in most 1v1 scenerios. He pushes all day with the best mana efficiency and safeness of any caster if you don't derp with call of the void.

That being said if you can aim call of the void it's hilariously easy to bait people into it.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 20:13:27
October 30 2011 20:11 GMT
#3054
Is someone watching TheOddones stream?
+ Show Spoiler +
Is he on crack lol?
Hes usually calm but holy hell,hes going 100mph right now
Cackle™
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 20:17:58
October 30 2011 20:17 GMT
#3055
On October 31 2011 05:11 TheKefka wrote:
Is someone watching TheOddones stream?
+ Show Spoiler +
Is he on crack lol?
Hes usually calm but holy hell,hes going 100mph right now

"usually calm"?

Not from when I've watched him, lol. When I tuned into him for the first time like 2 weeks ago, he was babbling incoherently with some mix of "Go TSM!", "Baylife!" and "Fucking gingerbrown!".
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 30 2011 20:19 GMT
#3056
On October 31 2011 05:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 05:11 TheKefka wrote:
Is someone watching TheOddones stream?
+ Show Spoiler +
Is he on crack lol?
Hes usually calm but holy hell,hes going 100mph right now

"usually calm"?

Not from when I've watched him, lol. When I tuned into him for the first time like 2 weeks ago, he was babbling incoherently with some mix of "Go TSM!", "Baylife!" and "Fucking gingerbrown!".

Hahah odd,I watched him a couple of times now and he always talked slowly as if he was constantly sleepy.Don't know:D
Cackle™
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 20:19:43
October 30 2011 20:19 GMT
#3057
On October 31 2011 04:10 Alaric wrote:
Switching topics, what's the "best" way to build Blitzcrank? I bought him on my smurf (supporting/bruising a lot to help friends new to the game) and have been playing him AD bruiser (manamune, triforce, FH, FoN but I generally don't get enough farm for all the completed stuff). Support is a no-no as that'd be a waste, full tank might be interesting but I'm not too sold on it before I get runes (level 16 smurf), and I'm still wondering how to build him AP-wise (lichbane for sure).

Probably manamune, triforce, frozen heart, and general tankiness as needed.
twitch.tv/cratonz
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 30 2011 20:21 GMT
#3058
manamune worse for damage and worse for tankiness than just working on catalyst and triforce
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 30 2011 20:24 GMT
#3059
Worse for damage in what way? Every other mana item you build becomes free damage for E and actually lets you not be completely useless outside grabs and R.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 20:26:56
October 30 2011 20:25 GMT
#3060
if you think manamune is better for damage than working on triforce go ahead and build it, I'm not gonna bother arguing with you
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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