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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 13 2011 19:50 GMT
#2141
On October 14 2011 04:38 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 04:04 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 14 2011 03:52 STS17 wrote:
On October 14 2011 03:50 Sufinsil wrote:
On October 13 2011 23:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 13 2011 17:42 gtrsrs wrote:
On October 13 2011 16:43 travis wrote:
wtf

normal game rite..?


nah it was a ranked
yorick's level 1 is unparalleled
as long as you don't run out in front and get bursted, you can't die and you do infinite damage thanks to your E
i was 1-0-4 before creeps spawned, came to lane with tear and killed akali and fiddle instantly when they tried to kill me at level 3, dove talon with renekton when he came to defend, killed akali again when she got back to lane, then took the tower

5 arpen
12 AD
13 armor
24 MR at level 18
9/21/0


i mean he's not infallible, the next game after that the enemy team fp'd yorick so i just took nasus and won the game (thanks for the extra 300 Q farm from ghouls, yorick!) but he's still stupidly strong right now

WAIT WHAT
Nasus gets Q farm from ghouls?!
Holy shit, so happy I finally bought Dreadknight skin for him.

Also, on the topic of skins, the community DOEs come out with amazing ideas every once in a while....can't wait for Surprise Party Fiddle. (even though he has like 5 skins already....sigh....when Urgot, when?)


Ghoul kills are effect by on kill reward effects like Ashe Hawkshot, TF passive. Have not tried it with Veigar but I imagine it would work.


Already PM'd MoonBear about this, he's going to double check if it's intended behavior or an oversight


it's definitely intentional
you get +3 siphon strike from towers too... it's anything you kill. why would ghouls be different?


That's poor logic. If it is a bug, it would effect all "on kill: get bonus" type effects not just one or two.


wat
everything that has an onkill bonus you get from yorick's ghouls. sion's E, veigar's thing, nasus, ashe, TF, all of them
nasus's Q works on everything you kill even towers and wards

i don't know what you're trying to say
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Xirt
Profile Joined April 2009
Scotland52 Posts
October 13 2011 19:56 GMT
#2142
On October 14 2011 03:41 Mogwai wrote:
runes are fine as is for right now. they honestly need to change their whole business model for the stuff you guys are talking about to not have huge community fallout. as someone who's been playing forever, life is all good with the LoL business model, but the idea of making the game not prohibitively difficult for new players to get into is something they're going to have to address in the next year or so IMO.


Mostly agree that prices are fairly fine where they are with the possible exception of multiple rune pages. I feel like the barrier for entry on new players is more about learning the abilites of an ever increasing champion roster and less about the grind for relitively small bonuses.
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
October 13 2011 20:11 GMT
#2143
On October 14 2011 04:33 Stealthpenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 03:58 Kyhron wrote:
Oh the joys of the upper 1100 circle of elo hell.....AP Miss Fortune and Taric then of course they blame the loss on the jungler. I'm so thinking of just sticking with normals after that massacre

Edit: Is there a place the cool people from here chill out in LoL so I can learn to not suck so hard?


Too bad they're always on your team and the other team is 1900s in disguise... oh wait.

The other team wasn't any better. It was more my team decided that not working together and building troll builds was more efficient than playing properly, but thats what i get for not being that great at the game
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 13 2011 20:22 GMT
#2144
Ranked is hilarious still atm because 1900's from last season are still 1500-1600 (cause all the 2.2-2.5k are only 1900 or so still) while some bronze players from last season who don't even know not to be bot when baron is up are now 1500-1600 lol.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 13 2011 20:24 GMT
#2145
loL legendary as skarner. cant even troll correctly anymore
Brees on in
whatsupchan
Profile Joined August 2011
United States61 Posts
October 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#2146
just play some more hybrid rally mf
2035
Xirt
Profile Joined April 2009
Scotland52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 20:53:06
October 13 2011 20:51 GMT
#2147
On October 14 2011 05:22 BlackPaladin wrote:
Ranked is hilarious still atm because 1900's from last season are still 1500-1600 (cause all the 2.2-2.5k are only 1900 or so still) while some bronze players from last season who don't even know not to be bot when baron is up are now 1500-1600 lol.


In my experience people still hang bot with baron up at 1500-1600 at the end of the season.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 13 2011 21:00 GMT
#2148
I had a thought about why so many people complain about Elo hell. Think about the difference in skill between level 1 and level 29. You would expect that for the average player, you would see a steady rise in skill corresponding with the increase in games played and level. Now imagine a graph of skill corresponding to your Elo and realize that those two charts connected are the experience that you have with the skill level of your teammates.

You play your ~200 games, you're chugging along, learning the game, getting halfway decent and expecting the same level of play out of your teammates when BAM! you're suddenly thrown in with the utter dregs of the game.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
October 13 2011 21:09 GMT
#2149
On October 14 2011 06:00 Jerubaal wrote:
I had a thought about why so many people complain about Elo hell. Think about the difference in skill between level 1 and level 29. You would expect that for the average player, you would see a steady rise in skill corresponding with the increase in games played and level. Now imagine a graph of skill corresponding to your Elo and realize that those two charts connected are the experience that you have with the skill level of your teammates.

You play your ~200 games, you're chugging along, learning the game, getting halfway decent and expecting the same level of play out of your teammates when BAM! you're suddenly thrown in with the utter dregs of the game.

I think its partially this, but it's partially some people get so used to being carried or only playing certain characters then all of a sudden they stopped getting carried or their best characters are picked/banned. The simple answer would be to "play better", but you cant always carry your team to victory. Everyone has bad games then there's always the chance the other team is a lot better or more coordinated. I've noticed an extreme lack of communication and/or willingness to play as a team. There's definitely people that rage over a "kill steal" instead of just shrugging it off and moving on they get all angry and start playing like crap cuz they didn't get a kill.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 13 2011 21:25 GMT
#2150
On October 14 2011 04:36 r.Evo wrote:
Also, how to win solo Q, I found the ultimate solution.

-Watch 300.
-Pick Pantheon.
-Win game.

YES IT IS THAT EASY MY FELLOW SUMMONERS.

Fixed, Pantheon only spartan.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
October 13 2011 21:27 GMT
#2151
On October 14 2011 06:25 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 04:36 r.Evo wrote:
Also, how to win solo Q, I found the ultimate solution.

-Watch 300.
-Pick Pantheon.
-Win game.

YES IT IS THAT EASY MY FELLOW SUMMONERS.

Fixed, Pantheon only spartan.

also, es #1 AND mandrops where he pleases. Lots of huehuehue. Pantheon da king.
currently rooting for myself.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 13 2011 21:31 GMT
#2152
Waiting for a fight to break out then mandropping everyone for ~800dmg es so good.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 13 2011 21:34 GMT
#2153
There should be a linear growth in store prices as you level up your account, but keep the same prices as they are now for level 30s. That would make it easier for lower levels to pick up expensive champs.
ô¿ô
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 13 2011 21:36 GMT
#2154
So new players can buy any champ @ a low price just because they're low lvl while lvl30s need to pay full price even for new champs, great idea. There's a reason there are 450ip champs.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
the p00n
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands615 Posts
October 13 2011 21:38 GMT
#2155
Just a quick question, does sheen's proc also double the gained damage from farming Nasus' Q (siphoning strike)? Like if I have killed 100 units with Q it gets +300 damage, will this add also double to +600 due to sheen?
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:39:35
October 13 2011 21:39 GMT
#2156
No, only base damage.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Xirt
Profile Joined April 2009
Scotland52 Posts
October 13 2011 21:40 GMT
#2157
On October 14 2011 06:38 the p00n wrote:
Just a quick question, does sheen's proc also double the gained damage from farming Nasus' Q (siphoning strike)? Like if I have killed 100 units with Q it gets +300 damage, will this add also double to +600 due to sheen?


Base attack damage only from sheen, no ability damage (scaling or base) is included.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2011 21:41 GMT
#2158
On October 14 2011 06:38 the p00n wrote:
Just a quick question, does sheen's proc also double the gained damage from farming Nasus' Q (siphoning strike)? Like if I have killed 100 units with Q it gets +300 damage, will this add also double to +600 due to sheen?

Sheen only adds your base attack damage, it has nothing to do with the damage of the ability or your overall attack damage. For example, Cait's base damage is 98 at level 18, so the Sheen proc adds 98 damage.

Not that you'd get Sheen on Cait, she's the only one I know offhand though.
It's your boy Guzma!
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 13 2011 21:42 GMT
#2159
There's always going to be losers in the pricings. You either screw over the old players, or screw over the new players. The old players have been playing longer and usually have a decent collection of champs; maybe there can be a date cutoff or something to draw a line for newer level 30s to give them some reduction in prices before they're paying for 6300s at full price again.

The new players will be paying low prices, but they won't be able to farm enough ip to outscale the levels they grow so they won't have ALL the champs.
ô¿ô
the p00n
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 21:47:57
October 13 2011 21:47 GMT
#2160
So why do all guides go for a trinity force? I was fairly certain it didn't proc but full tank nasus just seems so much better, and if you invest in a g-angel you can pop an ulti + heal after you revive which is especially nice with spirit visage. G-angel also has a nice build-up because the individual items are pretty decent as well and give you a lot of presence. Is there something I'm missing with sheen though?

On October 14 2011 06:41 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 06:38 the p00n wrote:
Just a quick question, does sheen's proc also double the gained damage from farming Nasus' Q (siphoning strike)? Like if I have killed 100 units with Q it gets +300 damage, will this add also double to +600 due to sheen?

Sheen only adds your base attack damage, it has nothing to do with the damage of the ability or your overall attack damage. For example, Cait's base damage is 98 at level 18, so the Sheen proc adds 98 damage.

Not that you'd get Sheen on Cait, she's the only one I know offhand though.


I get sheen on gangplank and LF, not rly anyone else.
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