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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 02 2011 23:38 GMT
#3881
On October 03 2011 08:30 Hakker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:17 Caller wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

alternatively you could explain that as saying that you wasted 21 games x 9 players x 20 minutes = 3780 minutes = 63 manhours, at a rate of 10$ an hour = $630.
your punishment of 24 manhours is minor.


Personally I think the 3900 man hours that I've chosen to use to grace this game with my presence should outweight that number.

That you've played 1300 games doesn't make it "ok" to leave games.

LeaverBuster is designed such that a low rate of leaving is excusable as aspects out of your control do happen. Deliberate leaving is supposed to be punished, and the way it's implemented isn't to give people who play a lot freebies--but rather if there's enough leaving in a short time, it's clear that it's deliberate and not uncontrolled factors.
Moderator
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 02 2011 23:39 GMT
#3882
On October 03 2011 08:30 Hakker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:17 Caller wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

alternatively you could explain that as saying that you wasted 21 games x 9 players x 20 minutes = 3780 minutes = 63 manhours, at a rate of 10$ an hour = $630.
your punishment of 24 manhours is minor.


Personally I think the 3900 man hours that I've chosen to use to grace this game with my presence should outweight that number.

i doubt you have played this game for a year 12 hours a day
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 02 2011 23:39 GMT
#3883
On October 03 2011 08:39 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:30 Hakker wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:17 Caller wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

alternatively you could explain that as saying that you wasted 21 games x 9 players x 20 minutes = 3780 minutes = 63 manhours, at a rate of 10$ an hour = $630.
your punishment of 24 manhours is minor.


Personally I think the 3900 man hours that I've chosen to use to grace this game with my presence should outweight that number.

i doubt you have played this game for a year 12 hours a day


But I know that you have.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
October 02 2011 23:39 GMT
#3884
On October 03 2011 08:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:30 Hakker wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:17 Caller wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

alternatively you could explain that as saying that you wasted 21 games x 9 players x 20 minutes = 3780 minutes = 63 manhours, at a rate of 10$ an hour = $630.
your punishment of 24 manhours is minor.


Personally I think the 3900 man hours that I've chosen to use to grace this game with my presence should outweight that number.

That you've played 1300 games doesn't make it "ok" to leave games.

LeaverBuster is designed such that a low rate of leaving is excusable as aspects out of your control do happen. Deliberate leaving is supposed to be punished, and the way it's implemented isn't to give people who play a lot freebies--but rather if there's enough leaving in a short time, it's clear that it's deliberate and not uncontrolled factors.


I havent left a game in ages. Check my match history.

Dr Bonjwa

I personally have no idea why I wouldve gotten banned.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 02 2011 23:40 GMT
#3885
On October 03 2011 08:39 Hakker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:38 TheYango wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:30 Hakker wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:17 Caller wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

alternatively you could explain that as saying that you wasted 21 games x 9 players x 20 minutes = 3780 minutes = 63 manhours, at a rate of 10$ an hour = $630.
your punishment of 24 manhours is minor.


Personally I think the 3900 man hours that I've chosen to use to grace this game with my presence should outweight that number.

That you've played 1300 games doesn't make it "ok" to leave games.

LeaverBuster is designed such that a low rate of leaving is excusable as aspects out of your control do happen. Deliberate leaving is supposed to be punished, and the way it's implemented isn't to give people who play a lot freebies--but rather if there's enough leaving in a short time, it's clear that it's deliberate and not uncontrolled factors.


I havent left a game in ages. Check my match history.

Dr Bonjwa

I personally have no idea why I wouldve gotten banned.

Then submit a ticket to Riot, instead of bitching about it here.
Moderator
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 02 2011 23:47 GMT
#3886
On October 03 2011 07:29 Shikyo wrote:
so garen just killed me with ulti from 800 range away or so discuss


He was spinning and queue'd up his ultimate while you flashed. The range check seems to occur when the ability is queue'd up not when it is actually executed. End of discussion.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
October 02 2011 23:56 GMT
#3887
On October 03 2011 08:47 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 07:29 Shikyo wrote:
so garen just killed me with ulti from 800 range away or so discuss


He was spinning and queue'd up his ultimate while you flashed. The range check seems to occur when the ability is queue'd up not when it is actually executed. End of discussion.


Or garen's ulti releases an invisible projectile which chased you like normal projectiles do. (Although this explanation doesn't explain pre-disjoint flash)
FADC
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 02 2011 23:58 GMT
#3888
On October 03 2011 08:56 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:47 STS17 wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:29 Shikyo wrote:
so garen just killed me with ulti from 800 range away or so discuss


He was spinning and queue'd up his ultimate while you flashed. The range check seems to occur when the ability is queue'd up not when it is actually executed. End of discussion.


Or garen's ulti releases an invisible projectile which chased you like normal projectiles do. (Although this explanation doesn't explain pre-disjoint flash)


Of course it does, pre-disjoint flash only removed projectiles it could see
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 00:03:29
October 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#3889
On October 03 2011 08:58 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:56 rwrzr wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:47 STS17 wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:29 Shikyo wrote:
so garen just killed me with ulti from 800 range away or so discuss


He was spinning and queue'd up his ultimate while you flashed. The range check seems to occur when the ability is queue'd up not when it is actually executed. End of discussion.


Or garen's ulti releases an invisible projectile which chased you like normal projectiles do. (Although this explanation doesn't explain pre-disjoint flash)


Of course it does, pre-disjoint flash only removed projectiles it could see


Droppin' knowledge.

Also cast time may have something to do with it. Because as Garen i've had the castbar keep casting as people flash/dash away and as soon as it completes bigsword -> Dead

Is the cast time a replacement for casting animation?

EDIT: Example dota cast animations
FADC
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 00:12:31
October 03 2011 00:11 GMT
#3890
Random question, I know we had this discussion before but I can't fucking find it.

Streaming for retards, how to?

JustinTV vs own3d.

Pros & Cons?


I still got an account on livestream back from when I streamed SC2 beta, but for some reason no one uses it anymore. :S
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 00:14:09
October 03 2011 00:13 GMT
#3891
On October 03 2011 09:02 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:58 STS17 wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:56 rwrzr wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:47 STS17 wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:29 Shikyo wrote:
so garen just killed me with ulti from 800 range away or so discuss


He was spinning and queue'd up his ultimate while you flashed. The range check seems to occur when the ability is queue'd up not when it is actually executed. End of discussion.


Or garen's ulti releases an invisible projectile which chased you like normal projectiles do. (Although this explanation doesn't explain pre-disjoint flash)


Of course it does, pre-disjoint flash only removed projectiles it could see


Droppin' knowledge.

Also cast time may have something to do with it. Because as Garen i've had the castbar keep casting as people flash/dash away and as soon as it completes bigsword -> Dead

Is the cast time a replacement for casting animation?

EDIT: Example dota cast animations

Cast time is a hard coded period of time where your champion can perform no other actions while the spell is casting. Spells generally are instant cast, have an extremely low cast time, or are channelled. A patch or two ago, there was that issue with "Cannot cast that while moving" constantly appearing in yellow whenever you tried to do things even if it didn't interrupt gameplay. That was the game engine messing up and giving you those information displays about breaking cast time without filtering excess stuff causing message spam. Sort of how even after your champion dies sometimes you still have those red damage markers fly off their body since it still has a backlog of them it couldn't display before you died.

Casting animation is a separate graphical asset that has nothing to do with casting time.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 03 2011 00:13 GMT
#3892
LOLOL

Tapioca: "I want to play katarina, don't ban katarina"
Gandhisauce: "Don't worry, I don't troll."
*Gandhisauce bans katarina*
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 03 2011 00:16 GMT
#3893
On October 03 2011 08:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

Were your leaves close together? LeaverBuster raises your warning level with each leave and has it steadily decrease over-time. You get punished if it gets beyond a certain point--so if you had a lot of leaves in a short period of time, it still results in punishment, even if they make up a comparatively small percentage of your games.

i was banned for 5 minutes after my 2nd leave of all time, you cant explain that
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 03 2011 00:16 GMT
#3894
LoL client acting up for anyone else? We can't see chat and invites are weird.
It's your boy Guzma!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 03 2011 00:18 GMT
#3895
On October 03 2011 09:16 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:16 TheYango wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

Were your leaves close together? LeaverBuster raises your warning level with each leave and has it steadily decrease over-time. You get punished if it gets beyond a certain point--so if you had a lot of leaves in a short period of time, it still results in punishment, even if they make up a comparatively small percentage of your games.

i was banned for 5 minutes after my 2nd leave of all time, you cant explain that


Those "5 min bans" are usually customer service doing stuff on your account. Had that happen during refunds/random boosts being applied before.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
October 03 2011 00:21 GMT
#3896
On October 03 2011 09:16 Requizen wrote:
LoL client acting up for anyone else? We can't see chat and invites are weird.

Me too, flist wasn't updating so I relogged and there was a q
:)
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
October 03 2011 00:24 GMT
#3897
Yup, chats and friend lists are empty for me.
the farm ends here
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 03 2011 00:39 GMT
#3898
On October 03 2011 08:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:30 Hakker wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:17 Caller wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

alternatively you could explain that as saying that you wasted 21 games x 9 players x 20 minutes = 3780 minutes = 63 manhours, at a rate of 10$ an hour = $630.
your punishment of 24 manhours is minor.


Personally I think the 3900 man hours that I've chosen to use to grace this game with my presence should outweight that number.

That you've played 1300 games doesn't make it "ok" to leave games.

LeaverBuster is designed such that a low rate of leaving is excusable as aspects out of your control do happen. Deliberate leaving is supposed to be punished, and the way it's implemented isn't to give people who play a lot freebies--but rather if there's enough leaving in a short time, it's clear that it's deliberate and not uncontrolled factors.

Deliberate leaving shouldn't necessarily be punished. I'd like to hear the justification from the person who said it's supposed to be punished.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 03 2011 00:46 GMT
#3899
On October 03 2011 09:39 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:38 TheYango wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:30 Hakker wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:17 Caller wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

alternatively you could explain that as saying that you wasted 21 games x 9 players x 20 minutes = 3780 minutes = 63 manhours, at a rate of 10$ an hour = $630.
your punishment of 24 manhours is minor.


Personally I think the 3900 man hours that I've chosen to use to grace this game with my presence should outweight that number.

That you've played 1300 games doesn't make it "ok" to leave games.

LeaverBuster is designed such that a low rate of leaving is excusable as aspects out of your control do happen. Deliberate leaving is supposed to be punished, and the way it's implemented isn't to give people who play a lot freebies--but rather if there's enough leaving in a short time, it's clear that it's deliberate and not uncontrolled factors.

Deliberate leaving shouldn't necessarily be punished. I'd like to hear the justification from the person who said it's supposed to be punished.


Under what circumstances do you believe deliberately leaving a game shouldn't be punished?
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
October 03 2011 00:46 GMT
#3900
On October 03 2011 09:39 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:38 TheYango wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:30 Hakker wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:17 Caller wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:09 Hakker wrote:
Ok so I just got banned for a day for 'leaving'. My leave percentage is .01 (21 leaves, 1300 games)

You can't explain that.

alternatively you could explain that as saying that you wasted 21 games x 9 players x 20 minutes = 3780 minutes = 63 manhours, at a rate of 10$ an hour = $630.
your punishment of 24 manhours is minor.


Personally I think the 3900 man hours that I've chosen to use to grace this game with my presence should outweight that number.

That you've played 1300 games doesn't make it "ok" to leave games.

LeaverBuster is designed such that a low rate of leaving is excusable as aspects out of your control do happen. Deliberate leaving is supposed to be punished, and the way it's implemented isn't to give people who play a lot freebies--but rather if there's enough leaving in a short time, it's clear that it's deliberate and not uncontrolled factors.

Deliberate leaving shouldn't necessarily be punished. I'd like to hear the justification from the person who said it's supposed to be punished.


Whatever excuse you have for leaving a game, it punishes the other four people on your team and takes away at least 20 or more minutes of their life. If you have some sort of life commitment you should have planned for it, or if it's a one time thing you're not going to get punished for it. If you're leaving games because you want to spite your team or because they won't surrender, you're going against why there's a 4/1 vote for surrender.
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