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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 20:36:29
September 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3581
TF's pretty good in Dominion too, since the range on Destiny basically hits all points from the jungle, and he can backdoor/stop caps like a pro. Other than that, he's a mediocre AD carry or a semi-mediocre AP carry.
It's your boy Guzma!
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 30 2011 21:12 GMT
#3582
I should add to what I said about support zil before. Before regi made ap mid zilean an actual good champion, if you wanted to play him it was bottom lane support. That's why I played support zil.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 30 2011 21:16 GMT
#3583
Real men played zil mid way before Regi played Zil mid. A lot of the "new"/popular stuff you see on high lvl streams really isn't all that new.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 21:21:16
September 30 2011 21:19 GMT
#3584
On October 01 2011 06:16 JackDino wrote:
Real men played zil mid way before Regi played Zil mid. A lot of the "new"/popular stuff you see on high lvl streams really isn't all that new.

This.

Even in high elo play, Jiji played solo Zilean vs the old TL team as early as last December--back when people still thought Zilean was a shit champion even though his ulti lasted 20 seconds.

Hell, solo Zilean was even more compelling back then because Q cost less mana and hit harder, making him even more of a lane dominator, and R had a freaking 3.0 AP ratio.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 21:27:39
September 30 2011 21:27 GMT
#3585
I remember people Miding Zil when I 1st started, but they also did Kat mid too back then lol. Seems so weird now but I actually played vs a kat mid today as Karthus. Got Blue buff and the poor thing couldn't do crap.
Never Knows Best.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
September 30 2011 22:39 GMT
#3586
Ever since this patch my computer drops to like 8 fps in the middle of games randomly REAL annoying.
GANDHISAUCE
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
September 30 2011 23:02 GMT
#3587
Can someone explain peoples obsession with having a "tank"? I've been in games with 2 or 3 tanky characters picked and everyone yells at the last pick to play a full tank, even if we dont have a proper ranged ad/ap carry/support/jungler.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
September 30 2011 23:08 GMT
#3588
It's been well known lower elos tanks rule all.

However, either your team has forced initiation (arrow, barrel, etc, or even pressuring tower with karthus wall/ad wailing on it) or you need a tanky guy that threatens something so enemies are forced to deal with it.
Stuck.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 30 2011 23:11 GMT
#3589
or the enemies fight you for no reason at low ELO and get aced and you laugh your way to their nexus.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Arthemesia
Profile Joined May 2011
United States292 Posts
September 30 2011 23:16 GMT
#3590
Having a tank is just always useful where as lot of times having too much ap or ad just makes your team easily countered. Tanks are also useful because they soak up as much dmg/cc as possible allowing your dps/ap players to output more dmg without dying.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
September 30 2011 23:17 GMT
#3591
On October 01 2011 08:08 Wala.Revolution wrote:
It's been well known lower elos tanks rule all.

However, either your team has forced initiation (arrow, barrel, etc, or even pressuring tower with karthus wall/ad wailing on it) or you need a tanky guy that threatens something so enemies are forced to deal with it.

Yeah but... I've had a team with Xin, Garen, and Wukong and people were bitching that we needed to have a tank. Its not rational, its some kind of weird obsession.

I asked a friend what he thought and he said that maybe its because in WoW the "tank" role is waaaaay more important, and having a dedicated tank character is needed. I've never played WoW so I wouldn't know.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
September 30 2011 23:32 GMT
#3592
finally got my paypal account unbanned... just renewed liquidparty.net domain <3
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
September 30 2011 23:35 GMT
#3593
It's because as the tank, you rush in and die because their whole team blows all their spells on you, then the rest of your team cleans up during the CDs. This only works at low levels. It could probably work on any character with decent base defense.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 30 2011 23:44 GMT
#3594
On October 01 2011 08:35 Pooshlmer wrote:
It's because as the tank, you rush in and die because their whole team blows all their spells on you, then the rest of your team cleans up during the CDs. This only works at low levels. It could probably work on any character with decent base defense.


I recall getting destroyed by tank tristana in a TL inhouse before. You can beat baddies with anything.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
September 30 2011 23:46 GMT
#3595
On October 01 2011 07:39 De4ngus wrote:
Ever since this patch my computer drops to like 8 fps in the middle of games randomly REAL annoying.

I had the same issue, turned out my CPU was overheating. Try cleaning out you heat sinks and fans.
Life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived forward
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 23:48:44
September 30 2011 23:48 GMT
#3596
On October 01 2011 08:17 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 08:08 Wala.Revolution wrote:
It's been well known lower elos tanks rule all.

However, either your team has forced initiation (arrow, barrel, etc, or even pressuring tower with karthus wall/ad wailing on it) or you need a tanky guy that threatens something so enemies are forced to deal with it.

Yeah but... I've had a team with Xin, Garen, and Wukong and people were bitching that we needed to have a tank. Its not rational, its some kind of weird obsession.

I asked a friend what he thought and he said that maybe its because in WoW the "tank" role is waaaaay more important, and having a dedicated tank character is needed. I've never played WoW so I wouldn't know.



This is why WoW needs to die. A game I refuse to play ruining a game I do! It must die in fire! >:D
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
October 01 2011 00:18 GMT
#3597
Between Warwick and Fidle whom should I pick to start and learn jungling?
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
October 01 2011 00:23 GMT
#3598
On October 01 2011 09:18 Zhiroo wrote:
Between Warwick and Fidle whom should I pick to start and learn jungling?

Any of these 10 guys would be reasonable: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/jungling-101-what-you-need-to-know-77704
3.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
October 01 2011 00:28 GMT
#3599
On October 01 2011 05:35 Requizen wrote:
TF's pretty good in Dominion too, since the range on Destiny basically hits all points from the jungle, and he can backdoor/stop caps like a pro. Other than that, he's a mediocre AD carry or a semi-mediocre AP carry.

I played TF on Dominion last night. It was pretty funny I was on purple team and decided to ninja Top left. They came to stop me so I gated....about 5 inches farther left into the fog of war. they left to D top and I walked back out of the fog and stole it



On October 01 2011 05:19 JackDino wrote:
IP seems to be affected by score points too, gogo collect them healthpacks for more IP.
Also just realized I haven't seen a single TF since shortly after the global nerf.

I have a 64 IP game that I scored 1090 points and a 71 IP game that I got 1840 points....doesn't seem like a heavy correlation
You can't milk those!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 01 2011 00:30 GMT
#3600
WW should be every new players first purchase and first jungle champ. Hell, riot should give away ww for free. The amount of knowledge that you pick up by learning how to jungle makes you an infinitely better player. Oh and go ww simply because his jungle style is a lot more convertible to other jungles.
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