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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
September 30 2011 16:10 GMT
#3541
People who complain about music on a stream can shove it where the sun don't shine. There's a mute button for a reason. People will complain about anything, given enough time.

There's very little useful information from in-game sounds. The most notable thing is hearing a skillshot hit someone in a bush when you're checking if anyone is there -- you can't always visually tell if the projectile dissipated or hit someone at max range.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 16:16:51
September 30 2011 16:10 GMT
#3542
On September 30 2011 23:49 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 23:37 Seuss wrote:
Non Sequitur: How necessary is background music when you're streaming?

There's a relatively small LoL group based out of the Elitist Jerks forums that has a number of people looking to improve, so I've started streaming to help them out. All I do is constantly talk about what I'm doing and why while veering off on relevant tangents, so I figured music wasn't necessary since I was always saying something. However, one person told me I needed music.

My take on it is that music is distracting from what I'm trying to accomplish (I would hazard a guess that outside of hilarious commentaries on trumpets and midgets, Day9 would say the same), but I don't like dismissing opinions outright so I thought I'd get a second (and third/fourth/seventeenth) opinion.

Also, so many stream threads. Do we really need separate threads for everyone?


Sequitur: Where can I find your stream? ^^

I would agree most music would be distracting (dubstep and mainstream songs) but if you played some Oscar Peterson in the background like Loci I think you'd only be enhancing the experience


Here's the link. I'm at work now but in three or so hours I'll be home and online (around 2:30 CST). I'd make a thread except I kind of think we're overwhelmed with random person thinks they are interesting enough to stream threads as it is.
http://www.own3d.tv/live/18639/MontegomeryLoL

Thanks for the advice everyone, I think I'll hold off on music until/unless I sense that I'm losing steam on my endless chatter (which tends to happen after 3-4 straight hours of talking). If what I'm saying isn't interesting enough to hold anyone's attention then adding music doesn't really solve the core problem.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
September 30 2011 16:18 GMT
#3543
You are MontegomeryLoL?! Your akali jungle guide got me into jungling! It was the first well done guide I saw for LoL ^^

Thanks.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 30 2011 16:34 GMT
#3544
That's me! It's been almost exactly a year since I posted that guide (tomorrow, in fact, to the day) and started making videos. Funny how the time flies.

It's dangerous to tell me my guide was "well done". It might inflate my ego.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
September 30 2011 16:53 GMT
#3545
Support Alistar is so fun. Used to play tanky Ali but support Ali is much more fun. ^_^
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
September 30 2011 16:59 GMT
#3546
Support Alistar is just tank alistar adapted to the modern meta, jungle, AD and AP are the weird builds that works because Riot feels like Alistar should be playable in all role except range AD.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 30 2011 17:09 GMT
#3547
Ranged AD Alistar works too just buy a gunblade and shoot people.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
September 30 2011 17:41 GMT
#3548
This has probably been asked before, but when you are Duo Queueing in ranked and your attitude is "fuck everyone else, us two are carrying everyone", which positions are the best to play?
My friend has told me it is top lane and jungle, but I have heard from other sources you should have mid and jungle.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 17:50:21
September 30 2011 17:42 GMT
#3549
On October 01 2011 02:41 57 Corvette wrote:
This has probably been asked before, but when you are Duo Queueing in ranked and your attitude is "fuck everyone else, us two are carrying everyone", which positions are the best to play?
My friend has told me it is top lane and jungle, but I have heard from other sources you should have mid and jungle.


you should both take bot lane
if you can fuck their ad carry and support that's much stronger than shutting down their top or w/e

actually just as long as one of you is playing support and you can keep your carry alive, you'll be in great shape to win the game
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 30 2011 17:43 GMT
#3550
It depends on who my Duo Que partner is. One of them is a tried and true support so I'll usually just bot lane with him and just put on my "deal with it" shades. The other is a jungler, at which point I just try to fill the carry role and go bot because it's the easiest to make them push it.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
September 30 2011 17:45 GMT
#3551
I think the best combo (if you're capable of playing it) is mid lane + jungler. Partly because these two roles give you the most control over the whole map and partly because when you're on the same page as mid/jungler, you can pull off some pretty nasty combos (e.g., jungle Warwick comes to mid and blows his ult every time it's up allowing solo mid to blow up their opponent).
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 30 2011 17:48 GMT
#3552
jungle + whatevers left over thats not support. people usually call out random shit at the beginning so you know what i mean
Brees on in
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
September 30 2011 17:57 GMT
#3553
jungle + mid or top, keep farming the opponent in your lane until the other team starts raging at him for feeding and falls apart

solo q ranked is decided by which team starts arguing first
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 30 2011 18:04 GMT
#3554
On October 01 2011 01:10 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 23:49 mordek wrote:
On September 30 2011 23:37 Seuss wrote:
Non Sequitur: How necessary is background music when you're streaming?

There's a relatively small LoL group based out of the Elitist Jerks forums that has a number of people looking to improve, so I've started streaming to help them out. All I do is constantly talk about what I'm doing and why while veering off on relevant tangents, so I figured music wasn't necessary since I was always saying something. However, one person told me I needed music.

My take on it is that music is distracting from what I'm trying to accomplish (I would hazard a guess that outside of hilarious commentaries on trumpets and midgets, Day9 would say the same), but I don't like dismissing opinions outright so I thought I'd get a second (and third/fourth/seventeenth) opinion.

Also, so many stream threads. Do we really need separate threads for everyone?


Sequitur: Where can I find your stream? ^^

I would agree most music would be distracting (dubstep and mainstream songs) but if you played some Oscar Peterson in the background like Loci I think you'd only be enhancing the experience


Here's the link. I'm at work now but in three or so hours I'll be home and online (around 2:30 CST). I'd make a thread except I kind of think we're overwhelmed with random person thinks they are interesting enough to stream threads as it is.
http://www.own3d.tv/live/18639/MontegomeryLoL

Thanks for the advice everyone, I think I'll hold off on music until/unless I sense that I'm losing steam on my endless chatter (which tends to happen after 3-4 straight hours of talking). If what I'm saying isn't interesting enough to hold anyone's attention then adding music doesn't really solve the core problem.

Thanks! I'm in a situation where I'm very bored at work and watch streams when I have time. Unfortunately we work nearly identical hours XD
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 30 2011 18:15 GMT
#3555
Jungle and any solo has the greatest impact on a game.

Avoid bot if possible.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 30 2011 18:19 GMT
#3556
if you have to bot, do it as support GP so that you can actually just say fuck it and grab the farm and 1v2 and carry if it turns out your lanemate is completely incompetent.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 30 2011 18:22 GMT
#3557
On October 01 2011 03:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Jungle and any solo has the greatest impact on a game.

Avoid bot if possible.


Honestly a good bot lane combo that steamrolls the other one fucks up the game too.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 30 2011 18:28 GMT
#3558
On October 01 2011 03:22 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 03:15 NeoIllusions wrote:
Jungle and any solo has the greatest impact on a game.

Avoid bot if possible.


Honestly a good bot lane combo that steamrolls the other one fucks up the game too.

if you're flying solo though, you'll frequently have a partner you cannot count on and if you're duoing, you can only win 1 lane if you put both of you guys bot.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 30 2011 18:31 GMT
#3559
It depends on how you look at it, IMO anyways. For instance if you stick your two worst players bot there's a huge likelihood that they get smashed and you're looking at this unstoppably farmed/fed ranged AD with a support player who's so far ahead of your team's that he's got oracle and just cementing their victory. I prefer to be bot there and babysitting the crappy guy (canceling out his bad-ness) and shoring up the team's weakness, while doing my best to prevent stranglehold map control. But that's because in general I play to eliminate errors as opposed to carry.

So I tend to like being bot, although I have binges where I get angry and go carry instead. But that doesn't necessarily mean that I'll win "more often," nor does it actually turn out such that I have "more of an effect on the game." Because by having a solo lane you automatically have "more that's required of you," which can just as well mean "more chances for you to fuck up without you realizing it."
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
September 30 2011 18:37 GMT
#3560
I was listening to Saint's stream the other day and he made the point (which I agree with) that it's better to have one of your last 2 picks solo than to put both of them in bot lane as the AD + support combo. I generally really hate being bottom in solo queue but it's often better than forcing your worst two players to combo the lane.
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