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snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 13:34:51
September 30 2011 13:34 GMT
#3521
Any time i jungle in normal games, 2 or 3 of my lanes are losing horrible. Trash picks, no supports, sometimes no range at all.
Its not like they simply get outfarmed somewhat, they literally stand at their towers with 200hp and no mana while their enemies are completely full on everything. Waiting for someone to have mercy and dive that last bit of hp, because they didnt pick cc and wouldnt be able to use it for lack of mp anyway.

I dont get it.
And then they're all over me to come gank. Like that would result in anything but an 0-2/0-3.
In the rare case i have a decent gank coming, they jump in before i'm even there and die horrible deaths while i'm still walking to their lane for a gank i announced.

How. Why. What can i do
I even tried offbeat ganks, taking boots early and whatever gank-skills there are for the respective jungler. Bushganks with ww (derp derp) before 6.


I'm feeling like saintvicious, only the bad botlane is ALL LANES and i dont know half as much about jungling.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 30 2011 13:39 GMT
#3522
On September 30 2011 22:34 snow2.0 wrote:
Any time i jungle in normal games, 2 or 3 of my lanes are losing horrible. Trash picks, no supports, sometimes no range at all.
Its not like they simply get outfarmed somewhat, they literally stand at their towers with 200hp and no mana while their enemies are completely full on everything. Waiting for someone to have mercy and dive that last bit of hp, because they didnt pick cc and wouldnt be able to use it for lack of mp anyway.

I dont get it.
And then they're all over me to come gank. Like that would result in anything but an 0-2/0-3.
In the rare case i have a decent gank coming, they jump in before i'm even there and die horrible deaths while i'm still walking to their lane for a gank i announced.

How. Why. What can i do
I even tried offbeat ganks, taking boots early and whatever gank-skills there are for the respective jungler. Bushganks with ww (derp derp) before 6.


I'm feeling like saintvicious, only the bad botlane is ALL LANES and i dont know half as much about jungling.

I don't know what to tell you in terms of advice, but I know how you feel.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
September 30 2011 14:03 GMT
#3523
Whine here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220361&currentpage=45

Not in GD.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 30 2011 14:06 GMT
#3524
So I tried Jungle Riven out last night. Really, really good. Even without a rune page (yeah, I know, but I just spent all my IP on Singed and my Caitlyn rune page) I cleared pretty fast and picked up 2 early ganks (level 2 or 3). Singed and Olaf were laning against our Maokai, even with him almost oom I got in, QQQW was enough to damage/CC them and pick us up the kills.

Probably not the best (Lee Sin, Udyr, Noc), but just wanted to say, she's a good pick for the role.
It's your boy Guzma!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 30 2011 14:17 GMT
#3525
On September 30 2011 12:28 HazMat wrote:
I'm sure this has been reported as I've seen it a lot of times but Poppy's charge will stun targets regardless whether there's a wall or not. This happens a lot.

Haven't seen this myself. Is there any details about how this happens? It might be something in the collision check algorithm. For example, it might just check if you're close enough to a wall or not as opposed to whether you actually hit the wall. Also, turret debris counts as terrain too.

On September 30 2011 13:20 57 Corvette wrote:
Gratz on the CLG Mousepad Moonbear

Thanks ^^
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
September 30 2011 14:27 GMT
#3526
Nah, sometimes you aren't even close and get stunned.
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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 30 2011 14:28 GMT
#3527
I know poppy stuns wherever on bot of dominion, regardless of where you slam them. So long as you are in that space where the Health Packs are.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 30 2011 14:37 GMT
#3528
Non Sequitur: How necessary is background music when you're streaming?

There's a relatively small LoL group based out of the Elitist Jerks forums that has a number of people looking to improve, so I've started streaming to help them out. All I do is constantly talk about what I'm doing and why while veering off on relevant tangents, so I figured music wasn't necessary since I was always saying something. However, one person told me I needed music.

My take on it is that music is distracting from what I'm trying to accomplish (I would hazard a guess that outside of hilarious commentaries on trumpets and midgets, Day9 would say the same), but I don't like dismissing opinions outright so I thought I'd get a second (and third/fourth/seventeenth) opinion.

Also, so many stream threads. Do we really need separate threads for everyone?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 14:50:32
September 30 2011 14:43 GMT
#3529
On September 30 2011 23:17 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2011 12:28 HazMat wrote:
I'm sure this has been reported as I've seen it a lot of times but Poppy's charge will stun targets regardless whether there's a wall or not. This happens a lot.

Haven't seen this myself. Is there any details about how this happens? It might be something in the collision check algorithm. For example, it might just check if you're close enough to a wall or not as opposed to whether you actually hit the wall. Also, turret debris counts as terrain too.

It sometimes happens even if you E down the lane, right in the middle of the lane. Not even close to any walls. So far it all seems entirely random even though I've had it happen dozens of times.
It's supposed to be even worse/more frequent if you use E Poppy vs Poppy. You might want to try that if you are looking to reproduce it, but I can only remember being in that situation once. It WAS kinda frequent that game though.

On September 30 2011 23:37 Seuss wrote:
Non Sequitur: How necessary is background music when you're streaming?

There's a relatively small LoL group based out of the Elitist Jerks forums that has a number of people looking to improve, so I've started streaming to help them out. All I do is constantly talk about what I'm doing and why while veering off on relevant tangents, so I figured music wasn't necessary since I was always saying something. However, one person told me I needed music.

My take on it is that music is distracting from what I'm trying to accomplish (I would hazard a guess that outside of hilarious commentaries on trumpets and midgets, Day9 would say the same), but I don't like dismissing opinions outright so I thought I'd get a second (and third/fourth/seventeenth) opinion.

Also, so many stream threads. Do we really need separate threads for everyone?

I personally hate music on streams. I can play music myself just fine, and it'll always be the music I like. Sure, nothing wrong with showing people what music the streamer likes to listen to, but that can also be done by linking an internet radio station or w/e.
But I guess people are too lazy to click a link, and some don't want to watch streams if they don't have music even if they don't really like it anyways...

Or is there something special (magic?) about listening to the same music as someone else who doesn't know you and possibly sits 1000 miles away? With a 3 minute delay of course, so you don't actually listen to the same music at the same time.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 30 2011 14:49 GMT
#3530
On September 30 2011 23:37 Seuss wrote:
Non Sequitur: How necessary is background music when you're streaming?

There's a relatively small LoL group based out of the Elitist Jerks forums that has a number of people looking to improve, so I've started streaming to help them out. All I do is constantly talk about what I'm doing and why while veering off on relevant tangents, so I figured music wasn't necessary since I was always saying something. However, one person told me I needed music.

My take on it is that music is distracting from what I'm trying to accomplish (I would hazard a guess that outside of hilarious commentaries on trumpets and midgets, Day9 would say the same), but I don't like dismissing opinions outright so I thought I'd get a second (and third/fourth/seventeenth) opinion.

Also, so many stream threads. Do we really need separate threads for everyone?


Sequitur: Where can I find your stream? ^^

I would agree most music would be distracting (dubstep and mainstream songs) but if you played some Oscar Peterson in the background like Loci I think you'd only be enhancing the experience
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 15:11:24
September 30 2011 15:09 GMT
#3531
trying to queue as a duo in unranked 5s, god damn i hate riot. their penalisation system is banning us for 6 minutes constantly because 1 of us cant see the others as connected so it quits the game, why not just add a button for people to leave without penalty (collapsing the game) if someone cant connect properly, then it would waste less time for everyone.

then if you have the create game screen open and you recieve an invite, click accept and it says you cant accept because you own a game, even if the room is empty, but it also throws away the invite, its just useless and annoying.

raaaeegggg


also is it me or are assassins op in low elo / unranked games? they hard counter retards and so often get like 5 kills in the laning phase -_-
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
September 30 2011 15:19 GMT
#3532
You know what hard counters retards? Not being a complete retard.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
September 30 2011 15:24 GMT
#3533
On September 30 2011 23:37 Seuss wrote:
Non Sequitur: How necessary is background music when you're streaming?

There's a relatively small LoL group based out of the Elitist Jerks forums that has a number of people looking to improve, so I've started streaming to help them out. All I do is constantly talk about what I'm doing and why while veering off on relevant tangents, so I figured music wasn't necessary since I was always saying something. However, one person told me I needed music.

My take on it is that music is distracting from what I'm trying to accomplish (I would hazard a guess that outside of hilarious commentaries on trumpets and midgets, Day9 would say the same), but I don't like dismissing opinions outright so I thought I'd get a second (and third/fourth/seventeenth) opinion.

Also, so many stream threads. Do we really need separate threads for everyone?

if a stream has music in english i mute it
no exceptions
the thing about music is that no one is going to agree on what they like listening to, so it is highly likely that you will lose at least a couple viewers because of it. also if you're talking a lot it would be bad if people muted you because they don't have the same musical taste as you. and people can always play their own music in the background.
:)
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 30 2011 15:26 GMT
#3534
People complain one way or the other, so I just play my music cause fuck those kids, mirite?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
September 30 2011 15:27 GMT
#3535
On October 01 2011 00:19 Sabin010 wrote:
You know what hard counters retards? Not being a complete retard.

#1 post
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 30 2011 15:28 GMT
#3536
you can't make the rest of your team not be complete retards though. so not only do you have to not be a complete retard, but you also have to assure that you're the one laning vs. said assassin.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
September 30 2011 15:32 GMT
#3537
I discovered many new bands and even genres listening to background music on stream, so i don't really mind it. As long as it doesn't disturb commentating/talking from the streamer and important gameplay sounds, I never mute a stream. (Of course some streams are worth muting BECAUSE of the guy talking on the stream ^^)
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-30 15:47:48
September 30 2011 15:45 GMT
#3538
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GRR

You've got my w/l crushed =(
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 30 2011 16:01 GMT
#3539
Lol everytime I play non ranked to test out builds/champs I am always amazed at the lack of knowledge even at lvl 30. I played as Cho cause I just bought him (and God Damn his Gentleman skin OWNS so hard) and I was on a team with Annie/Talon/Riven/akali and the Annie kept saying how we were going to lose because we didn't have any carries lol. Thank God normal is so terrible because whenever I try to learn a new champ I end up pushing buttons like im playing my main.
Never Knows Best.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
September 30 2011 16:05 GMT
#3540
On October 01 2011 01:01 Slaughter wrote:
Lol everytime I play non ranked to test out builds/champs I am always amazed at the lack of knowledge even at lvl 30. I played as Cho cause I just bought him (and God Damn his Gentleman skin OWNS so hard) and I was on a team with Annie/Talon/Riven/akali and the Annie kept saying how we were going to lose because we didn't have any carries lol. Thank God normal is so terrible because whenever I try to learn a new champ I end up pushing buttons like im playing my main.


Meh you'll meet the same people in ranked matches ... -_-.. I'm pretty sure annie thought that you needed a "Ranged" dps carry to win, and was under the assumption not having one is an auto loss.
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