EPT[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 126
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Norada
China482 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On September 25 2011 21:54 Haemonculus wrote: Jungle is #1 scapegoat for all things though, so keep that in mind. Bot pushing to tower 24/7 and gets ganked? Your fault for not being there. Mid roams and dies? Your fault for not having enough wards. Top dies to their lane opponent? Your fault for not ganking every 30 seconds. Even if you do pull off successful ganks, they'll be mad at you a minute later for not repeating it, and again as soon as they die once you'll start getting yelled at. You know we have a wonderful «ignore» button, right ? And never forget the other side is supposedly as bad. It's VERY rare that you don't have at least 1 lane gankable 90% of the time. With fiddle, it's just free rape. And in team fights, as everybody engages stupidly, you just have to wait for them to waste 5 ults on your tank/support, fiddle ult, silence, zonya, ???, profit. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On September 25 2011 20:39 BlackHat wrote: Statikk posted that Singed is getting a small nerf next patch, but he believes he will still be really strong. Source: lol boards god no... he is the only champ iam decent with :/ | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
Im happy that Lee Sin's Q is getting nerfed, I actually thought the early game output from it was so ridiculous. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
i'm in some sort of identity crisis on whether i should play as a tanky bruiser or a melee assassin... | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On September 25 2011 22:03 clickrush wrote: god no... he is the only champ iam decent with :/ An interesting read, I disagree with a few of the posts he made but over all that guy on the first page who was nice enough to consolidate everything made reading through it much easier. In particular, I'm not a fan of heimerdinger's remake causing his turrets to be an offensive/temporary option instead of a permanent option. They are plenty offensive enough with the charges and <1 second cooldown on the ability itself that a prepared heimer can have his turrets up in a fight easily enough. Nor is there anything conceptually wrong with a "permanent trap" type of ability. Heimerdinger's largest issue is fighting amongst minions, where two of this three abilities have the chance of being largely useless during a fight. Want to change him from the Herpadinger to the Heimerwinner? Let turrets / Rockets prefer champions over minions, perhaps only during his ultimate to prevent in-lane abuse. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On September 25 2011 21:54 Haemonculus wrote: Jungle is #1 scapegoat for all things though, so keep that in mind. Bot pushing to tower 24/7 and gets ganked? Your fault for not being there. Mid roams and dies? Your fault for not having enough wards. Top dies to their lane opponent? Your fault for not ganking every 30 seconds. Even if you do pull off successful ganks, they'll be mad at you a minute later for not repeating it, and again as soon as they die once you'll start getting yelled at. Hehe, this happened to me just a few days ago. Seriously, I gank the shit out of lanes just as long as the wave isn't 24/7 pushed to towers. So if one retard complains about ganks, I just tell him the mistakes he made (he didn't ward his lane a single time, and is surprised he got ganked like 4 times), while he insults me and I put him on ignore. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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NonY
8751 Posts
On September 26 2011 02:21 UniversalSnip wrote: heimerdinger has gotta be the worst designed champion in the game, maybe the second worst after yorick... It would be pretty hard to change him so he became MORE obnoxious/boring. Fuck that guy. He used to be more obnoxious :o What you see now is the toned down version of Heimer | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
I'm not saying your teammates have any right to be yelling at you for their decision to be all the way at the enemy tower for no good reason or that you should be some magic omnipresent force. However, there are things you can do to try and salvage that sort of situation and counterganking can result in some ridiculous kills. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 26 2011 02:21 UniversalSnip wrote: heimerdinger has gotta be the worst designed champion in the game, maybe the second worst after yorick... It would be pretty hard to change him so he became MORE obnoxious/boring. Fuck that guy. EDIT: and guy above, he is not weak. Heimerwinnerdinger is a nightmare scenario, he does not need 'buffs' What? Heimer is fun. He relies on team coordination - he sucks in your average solo Q game. He doesn't have the burst that most other casters have, but his DPS is amazing if someone is stupid enough to run into 2 ulted turrets. He is an amazing pusher in coordinated teams, but he can also be countered. Caitlyn is much worse. Ridiculous in lane, amazing pusher, works like a charm in solo Q, doesn't rely on blue buff 24/7. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
What are people building to make her viable? Atmogs? Straight damage Ghostblade/BT/FMallet? | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On September 26 2011 02:23 Liquid`Tyler wrote: He used to be more obnoxious :o What you see now is the toned down version of Heimer Clearly he has never played with TF 1.0 or when tower shots were dodge-able This heimer is nothing in terms of obnoxiousness | ||
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
On September 26 2011 03:05 Requizen wrote: People saying Riven is nearly ban-worthy... I still don't see it. I have not yet found a build that makes her 100% scary to people. I feel that she's one of those champs where if you build her tanky, she does no damage, but if you build her glass cannon, she can't do anything through CC and focus fire. What are people building to make her viable? Atmogs? Straight damage Ghostblade/BT/FMallet? People are very wrong, lol. I think riven is incredibly mediocre/weak. Maybe I just suck with her, but I doubt it. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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