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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#861
On August 27 2011 11:30 MoonBear wrote:
It's been a while since I did one of these. I have a be a bit more careful about what I say. Everything in this post should be treated as a rumour and not fact. Can't guarantee accuracy.

  • Dominion release next patch should be pretty obvious. QA hard at work on getting it all ready. That's why no bug fixes this patch. Or next patch most likely either.
  • No ranked Dominion on release.
  • Obs and Replays wanted to be Dominion Patch, but not sure if they can be done in time.
  • Obs will be Custom Games only at first. Delay is currently 1-2 min, but still tbc. No Obs on Ranked/Normals because of some tech issues. Like, imagine all 15k HSGG viewers trying to obs his game. Yeah. Server would die. Lol.
  • Pause function feasible to implement.
  • 3 bans in ranked would only take a few lines of code.
  • Riot Business Development been in Asia this month a lot. Taiwan servers are the first of a lot more. Maybe even by end of this year.
  • Mac and Linux Client in the pipes somewhere. But it's a side project thing. 2012 maybe.
  • Item based balancing (aka Dominion style) real possibility for SR. Oracles Extract seems interesting.
  • Yordles in the firing line.
  • Will be able to rebind the V Ping hotkey soon.
  • Expect the unexpected.


Also, Dominion Patch will likely bring about a lot of bugs. If there are any pattern of bugs that emerge, please post your logs in the TL Tech Thread so I can pass them on to Riot for analysis and any bugs can be fixed quickly for you guys.

Also hi lurkers from Riot.

<3 Moonbear es #1

I'm real iffy if I want Dominion to ever be ranked. It seems to......uncompetitive?

Nooooo my yordles :[
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
August 27 2011 02:51 GMT
#862
On August 27 2011 11:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:30 MoonBear wrote:
It's been a while since I did one of these. I have a be a bit more careful about what I say. Everything in this post should be treated as a rumour and not fact. Can't guarantee accuracy.

  • Dominion release next patch should be pretty obvious. QA hard at work on getting it all ready. That's why no bug fixes this patch. Or next patch most likely either.
  • No ranked Dominion on release.
  • Obs and Replays wanted to be Dominion Patch, but not sure if they can be done in time.
  • Obs will be Custom Games only at first. Delay is currently 1-2 min, but still tbc. No Obs on Ranked/Normals because of some tech issues. Like, imagine all 15k HSGG viewers trying to obs his game. Yeah. Server would die. Lol.
  • Pause function feasible to implement.
  • 3 bans in ranked would only take a few lines of code.
  • Riot Business Development been in Asia this month a lot. Taiwan servers are the first of a lot more. Maybe even by end of this year.
  • Mac and Linux Client in the pipes somewhere. But it's a side project thing. 2012 maybe.
  • Item based balancing (aka Dominion style) real possibility for SR. Oracles Extract seems interesting.
  • Yordles in the firing line.
  • Will be able to rebind the V Ping hotkey soon.
  • Expect the unexpected.


Also, Dominion Patch will likely bring about a lot of bugs. If there are any pattern of bugs that emerge, please post your logs in the TL Tech Thread so I can pass them on to Riot for analysis and any bugs can be fixed quickly for you guys.

Also hi lurkers from Riot.

<3 Moonbear es #1

I'm real iffy if I want Dominion to ever be ranked. It seems to......uncompetitive?

Nooooo my yordles :[


Other than Amumu, i don't care if the yordles are nerfed (especially teemo, i hate that little rat).

Honestly, I am not too excited about Dominion. Yeah its going to be fast paced, but at the same time I feel its going to take a while for people to take it seriously.
For now I am going to stick to SR, and after a bit of time I will see how good Dominion is going to get.

I'l be on the lookout for bugs though
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 27 2011 02:52 GMT
#863
playing in a pretty laid back 3s tournament atm. I want triumphant ryze
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
August 27 2011 02:53 GMT
#864
Yordle nerfs?!

Not my tristy! *sniffle* She needs some tweaks not nerfs..

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 27 2011 02:56 GMT
#865
On August 27 2011 11:51 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:30 MoonBear wrote:
It's been a while since I did one of these. I have a be a bit more careful about what I say. Everything in this post should be treated as a rumour and not fact. Can't guarantee accuracy.

  • Dominion release next patch should be pretty obvious. QA hard at work on getting it all ready. That's why no bug fixes this patch. Or next patch most likely either.
  • No ranked Dominion on release.
  • Obs and Replays wanted to be Dominion Patch, but not sure if they can be done in time.
  • Obs will be Custom Games only at first. Delay is currently 1-2 min, but still tbc. No Obs on Ranked/Normals because of some tech issues. Like, imagine all 15k HSGG viewers trying to obs his game. Yeah. Server would die. Lol.
  • Pause function feasible to implement.
  • 3 bans in ranked would only take a few lines of code.
  • Riot Business Development been in Asia this month a lot. Taiwan servers are the first of a lot more. Maybe even by end of this year.
  • Mac and Linux Client in the pipes somewhere. But it's a side project thing. 2012 maybe.
  • Item based balancing (aka Dominion style) real possibility for SR. Oracles Extract seems interesting.
  • Yordles in the firing line.
  • Will be able to rebind the V Ping hotkey soon.
  • Expect the unexpected.


Also, Dominion Patch will likely bring about a lot of bugs. If there are any pattern of bugs that emerge, please post your logs in the TL Tech Thread so I can pass them on to Riot for analysis and any bugs can be fixed quickly for you guys.

Also hi lurkers from Riot.

<3 Moonbear es #1

I'm real iffy if I want Dominion to ever be ranked. It seems to......uncompetitive?

Nooooo my yordles :[


Other than Amumu, i don't care if the yordles are nerfed (especially teemo, i hate that little rat).

Honestly, I am not too excited about Dominion. Yeah its going to be fast paced, but at the same time I feel its going to take a while for people to take it seriously.
For now I am going to stick to SR, and after a bit of time I will see how good Dominion is going to get.

I'l be on the lookout for bugs though

But I love T-mo :[
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 27 2011 03:01 GMT
#866
Yordle nerfs = amumu, maybe trist? I don't see how Poppy, or even Teemo need any nerfs. Whole lot of champs that should be on the firing line before Poppy(although maybe nerf Poppy's burst as a way to allow her to become a better champ overall? a remake of sorts).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 27 2011 03:02 GMT
#867
for obs, maybe just let your friends obs you? would fix the possible 15k HSGG Fans crashing the server.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
LancerStarcraft
Profile Joined July 2010
United States235 Posts
August 27 2011 03:03 GMT
#868
Does yordles in the firing line mean yordle nerfs... or that there are yordles going to be released?

Also lol, rioters lurking.
"Buy a ward. Stop a gank. Save a life."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 27 2011 03:17 GMT
#869
RIOT lurkers, also moonbear
any idea when the "achievement" tab in the summoner profile gonna be used? hopefully season 2?
(hint, i'm asking cause 82/82 champs ranked wins)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Deranes
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany75 Posts
August 27 2011 03:28 GMT
#870
On August 27 2011 11:30 MoonBear wrote:
[*]Will be able to rebind the V Ping hotkey soon.


I use v for one of my summoner spells, it's really annoing atm when I try to smite as a jungler and I just spam fall back instead...
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 03:31:08
August 27 2011 03:30 GMT
#871
THE MORE I PLAY SKARNER THE LESS SENSE HE MAKES

REAL WTF

Current thoughts:
-9 21 0 is the way to go I think. Makes you bulky, gives you MPen and the only thing I really miss from the utility tree is movespeed.

-For Runes I'm currently running full ArPen / Armor / scaling Mres. For Quints I'm about to kick out my ArPen for Movespeed.

-Summoners I'm currently running Flash/Exhaust, debating to switch Exhaust out for Ghost.

-Skill order.. here it already get's weird. Like, E is great and a cool little poke and all, but lvl 5 W/Q is just so slick. For W usage it's important to decide whether to use it as your gap closer (bad) or as your steroid (AFTER the enemy blew most of his cooldowns).

ITEMS KEEP GETTING WEIRDER.

I'm playing around with everything and Skarner, to me, feels like the Jax no one knew how to build properly.

-Gunblade/Triforce builds work, but I feel the Gunblade has wasted stats. The slow is great though.

-Frozen Mallet is a great item on him.

-Rageblade works decently, not sure if it's really cost effective on him atm.

-Force of Atmogs builds work, but kinda have the same issue as they have on anyone without a real gapcloser: You take ages to get into range.


The more I play Skarner the more I think he is the strongest possible carry babsitter out there atm.

Stuff like Akali/Nocturne/Irelia is like COMPLETELY shut down. The low CD on Q makes you great at sticking to a target once you're on top of it (and those guys mentioned before have a tendency to come to you first, real handy), your ult is an op lifesaver if your carry really takes a lot of heat from one guy.

More input and random thoughts still appreciated (Especially on items. Or more on "What items to get when and why?)

I'm more and more sure that the only "real" core item should be Triforce, but I'm open for other completely random ideas. =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 03:32:19
August 27 2011 03:30 GMT
#872
On August 27 2011 11:30 MoonBear wrote:
[*]3 bans in ranked would only take a few lines of code.

Personally I would like to see the 2-phase ban system taken from DotA, as IMO it would add depth to the ban/pick system. As is, if someone picks a given role in their first or second pick, the other team loses any necessity to pick a champion of that role in their following picks, because the other team is incapable of picking another champ of that role without making their comp extremely screwy (e.g. if the enemy team first-picks Fiddlesticks, you no longer have any urgency to pick your jungler). Needing to consider those picks for the second banning phase (e.g. we still need to get Nocturne now because the enemy team could ban him in the 2nd banning phase if he looks too good for our comp) seems like it would make the ban/pick system more interesting.
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
August 27 2011 03:36 GMT
#873
On August 27 2011 11:19 sob3k wrote:
Jesus christ, I've been playing Zilean for like 2 days now, great champ in every way....but fuck me NOBODY KNOWS WHAT HIS ULT IS....

I'd say I waste half my ults on people who are like oneshot who then frantically flash and blow every escape skill they have trying to get out and squandering the ult....most frustrating thing ever.


what??

You're not supposed to pay attention to other people in solo queue unless they are beast and carrying you l0l.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 27 2011 04:03 GMT
#874
Skarner also solo pushes well. Triforce is mandatory on him IMO but after that I like tank and CDR items, with ghostblade as my "other" source of damage if I need it.
My endgame build, arrived at in random manner, looks like
Triforce
Randuin
Wit's End
Merc Treads (unless I can get away with Tabi or CDR Boots)
Ghostblade or Nashor's
GA
with variations based on enemy team of course.
I tried tossing in Shurelya's somewhere, but it never fit because I always wanted to get triforce as soon as possible and then it was always ARMOR OR MR. Gotta try it some more though.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 27 2011 04:21 GMT
#875
I think the game should have 4 bans each side
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 27 2011 04:23 GMT
#876
On August 27 2011 11:30 MoonBear wrote:
It's been a while since I did one of these. I have a be a bit more careful about what I say. Everything in this post should be treated as a rumour and not fact. Can't guarantee accuracy.

  • Dominion release next patch should be pretty obvious. QA hard at work on getting it all ready. That's why no bug fixes this patch. Or next patch most likely either.
  • No ranked Dominion on release.
  • Obs and Replays wanted to be Dominion Patch, but not sure if they can be done in time.
  • Obs will be Custom Games only at first. Delay is currently 1-2 min, but still tbc. No Obs on Ranked/Normals because of some tech issues. Like, imagine all 15k HSGG viewers trying to obs his game. Yeah. Server would die. Lol.
  • Pause function feasible to implement.
  • 3 bans in ranked would only take a few lines of code.
  • Riot Business Development been in Asia this month a lot. Taiwan servers are the first of a lot more. Maybe even by end of this year.
  • Mac and Linux Client in the pipes somewhere. But it's a side project thing. 2012 maybe.
  • Item based balancing (aka Dominion style) real possibility for SR. Oracles Extract seems interesting.
  • Yordles in the firing line.
  • Will be able to rebind the V Ping hotkey soon.
  • Expect the unexpected.


Also, Dominion Patch will likely bring about a lot of bugs. If there are any pattern of bugs that emerge, please post your logs in the TL Tech Thread so I can pass them on to Riot for analysis and any bugs can be fixed quickly for you guys.

Also hi lurkers from Riot.

What about Smartcast for items?
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Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
August 27 2011 04:28 GMT
#877
On August 27 2011 13:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think the game should have 4 bans each side

I think the problem with 4 bans a side is then you need 18 champs to play ranked. Otherwise I'm sure they'd do it.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 27 2011 04:30 GMT
#878
On August 27 2011 13:03 Tooplark wrote:
Skarner also solo pushes well. Triforce is mandatory on him IMO but after that I like tank and CDR items, with ghostblade as my "other" source of damage if I need it.
My endgame build, arrived at in random manner, looks like
Triforce
Randuin
Wit's End
Merc Treads (unless I can get away with Tabi or CDR Boots)
Ghostblade or Nashor's
GA
with variations based on enemy team of course.
I tried tossing in Shurelya's somewhere, but it never fit because I always wanted to get triforce as soon as possible and then it was always ARMOR OR MR. Gotta try it some more though.


OH FUCK SHURELYAS YES.

Completely forgot about that, that has to be great on him.

tbh I'd run philo -> HoG -> Triforce -> Shurelyas -> Tank. Gotta try that out.

Actually I think this build should run well without more HP thrown in there, making Randuins/Frozen Heart and Banshees the way to go for armor/mres. For more HP funfire could work, too, I guess.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 05:00:22
August 27 2011 04:32 GMT
#879
On August 27 2011 13:28 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 13:21 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think the game should have 4 bans each side

I think the problem with 4 bans a side is then you need 18 champs to play ranked. Otherwise I'm sure they'd do it.

I have more of an issue with the fact that there would then be certain champs that you'd NEVER get to play ever. 8 bans in all? Say goodbye to every Fotm and possible OP champ.
God Bless
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 27 2011 04:32 GMT
#880
On August 27 2011 13:30 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 13:03 Tooplark wrote:
Skarner also solo pushes well. Triforce is mandatory on him IMO but after that I like tank and CDR items, with ghostblade as my "other" source of damage if I need it.
My endgame build, arrived at in random manner, looks like
Triforce
Randuin
Wit's End
Merc Treads (unless I can get away with Tabi or CDR Boots)
Ghostblade or Nashor's
GA
with variations based on enemy team of course.
I tried tossing in Shurelya's somewhere, but it never fit because I always wanted to get triforce as soon as possible and then it was always ARMOR OR MR. Gotta try it some more though.


OH FUCK SHURELYAS YES.

Completely forgot about that, that has to be great on him.

tbh I'd run philo -> HoG -> Triforce -> Shurelyas -> Tank. Gotta try that out.

Actually I think this build should run well without more HP thrown in there, making Randuins/Frozen Heart and Banshees the way to go for armor/mres. For more HP funfire could work, too, I guess.


"without more HP" "Randuins... and Banshees" ... wat?

Also, is something wrong with server right now? My launcher is stuck like it's looking for a patch, so I thought maybe there is a patch and went to get food and watch some MLG... 20 minutes later still not working, tried restarting it still no good =[
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