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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 22:23:40
September 09 2011 22:22 GMT
#3501
21/4/0 or 0/4/21

If you are jungling then some mishmash with at least 10 in utility probably the best.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 09 2011 22:23 GMT
#3502
With cait ult I often will use it right on the onset of the fight in lategame. You go snipe their carry with it and either the carry takes 500 or so damage at the beginning or you can get a tank our of position to block the shot which can help give your team an advantage.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
September 09 2011 22:27 GMT
#3503
Garen 1350, poppy 450 inc.

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=392876

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Summoners!

In response to player feedback, we will be continuing our effort to bring you even more value for your IP by reducing the IP purchase prices on even more of your favorite classic champions. This week, we’ll be slashing the IP prices on the champions Poppy and Garen.

The new IP prices for these champions are:

Poppy, the Iron Ambassador, (normally 1350 IP) will be only 450 IP!
Garen, the Might of Demacia, (normally 3150 IP) will be only 1350 IP!
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 09 2011 22:28 GMT
#3504
On September 10 2011 07:23 BlackPaladin wrote:
With cait ult I often will use it right on the onset of the fight in lategame. You go snipe their carry with it and either the carry takes 500 or so damage at the beginning or you can get a tank our of position to block the shot which can help give your team an advantage.

Also there's one more thing "you can make the enemy team rage at tank for not blocking the ult and instawin the game because they will spend next 20 minutes arguing about tank having to take the bullet for a carry"

On September 10 2011 07:17 RogerX wrote:
At level 25 is it better to have one side completed masteries? EG 21/0/4 or is it better to evenly distribute them between two trees and only get a completed mastery tree at level 30?

If you would go for 21/x/9 at lvl 30 then obviously you care about having 21 points in the offense so go 21/0/4 (or 21/4/0)
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 09 2011 22:28 GMT
#3505
Mhm... Yorick is my lovely champion for like 1 month now, I'm pretty sure, I've mastered it good already as in my 2nd game with him I've made both quadra and penta kill in a teamfight, lol. Great lane sustain, nice harrassment and stuff.

Love my Yorick <3
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 09 2011 22:32 GMT
#3506
Good that I didn't buy Garen when I was thinking about it a few days ago.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
September 09 2011 22:34 GMT
#3507
Honver tearing up the ranks with his vicious madreds -> thornmail soraka build.

love that guy
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 09 2011 22:36 GMT
#3508
BTW Soraka's starcall is OP. OP as fuck.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 22:44:02
September 09 2011 22:43 GMT
#3509
On September 10 2011 05:00 spinesheath wrote:
To be fair, Cait isn't the type of ranged AD that frequently gets those insane scores you see on Ezreal, Tristana or Vayne. She dies very rarely and harrasses insanely well, but she has a hard time actually killing people.


This x100.

Cait isn't strong because she does well so often, cait is strong because it's so fucking hard to do bad with her.

As I kinda said in the Ezreal topic because someone brought it up there...

-Cait is the strongest AD carry if she's behind in lane, period.
-Cait is one of the weakest AD carries if she's ahead. (prolly only second to Ashe)

-Her attack animation+range make it so that first in lane and later on in teamfights it is almost impossible to fuck up her positioning at lower elos. Cait can sometimes even get away with focussing enemy squishies.

Basicly the single hardest part about playing AD carries (positioning) is not a huge factor for Cait, that's why even horrible AD players can do well with her. Compare the skill level you need to not do bad at Cait with like Ez, Tristana, MF, Ashe, Corki - they all have way higher skillcaps and are way harder to learn at first.

-Now add that her kit amplifies all the above. Traps can control zones well (and check brushes), her Q is hard to dodge if you're herpderping around. Missing her E against someone diving you is also almost impossible to fuck up.



tl;dr: If you suck at AD carries and want to do well, pick Caitlyn. However, I'm a strong believer in almost every other AD outshining her if you play them well.

Exceptions are Cait/Taric (total bullshit lane) and Cait solo. However, even there I'd rather have a Corki, MF or Ez solo than her.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 09 2011 22:45 GMT
#3510
A fed ashe is crazy, whatchu talking about D:
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 09 2011 22:47 GMT
#3511
Everything fed is crazy but yeah, fed Ashe is like pew, pew penta kill.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 09 2011 22:51 GMT
#3512
Ashe has great scaling on Volley which has double her autoattack range. She can constantly apply a (maxed) 35% slow. She has a mini CV, a long range stun/initiator and after the team roaming/face offs she opens the fighting with a hard crit. Once range carries get fed, they want to be right-clicking most of the time so Q and E having no damage but lots of utility is not a big deal. Few AD Carries are scarier late-game, such as Trist thanks to her passive+Q steroid.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 09 2011 23:17 GMT
#3513
Shit. Poopy is 450 ip now. Now I have NO excuse for not having her. God dammit.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
September 09 2011 23:19 GMT
#3514
On September 10 2011 07:23 BlackPaladin wrote:
With cait ult I often will use it right on the onset of the fight in lategame. You go snipe their carry with it and either the carry takes 500 or so damage at the beginning or you can get a tank our of position to block the shot which can help give your team an advantage.


Tank in front of carry seems pretty in position.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 09 2011 23:34 GMT
#3515
Well...
I think evo is trying to say that 15k gold on corki is better then 15k gold on cait.

Off-topic.
OMG I GOT LOCI ON MY BUDDY LIST!!! :D

<- huge loci fanboy

When is loci gonna join a big team? D: I wanna see him play in a tourny (and do well, ofc)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 09 2011 23:40 GMT
#3516
On September 10 2011 08:34 Abenson wrote:
Well...
I think evo is trying to say that 15k gold on corki is better then 15k gold on cait.

Off-topic.
OMG I GOT LOCI ON MY BUDDY LIST!!! :D

<- huge loci fanboy

When is loci gonna join a big team? D: I wanna see him play in a tourny (and do well, ofc)


Pretty much this. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
September 09 2011 23:41 GMT
#3517
Dealing with the retards in so many games is making grinding 1900 increasingly less worth it.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 09 2011 23:43 GMT
#3518
Loci was (maybe still is) a CLG player.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
September 09 2011 23:50 GMT
#3519
On September 10 2011 08:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
Shit. Poopy is 450 ip now. Now I have NO excuse for not having her. God dammit.

dw about it man i don't own yi or kayle
:)
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 09 2011 23:59 GMT
#3520
On September 10 2011 08:43 Mogwai wrote:
Loci was (maybe still is) a CLG player.

He is no longer.
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