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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 06 2011 18:11 GMT
#2881
Riot in general could communicate a hell of a lot better. GL trying to find any important red post info on either EU forum.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
September 06 2011 18:17 GMT
#2882
On September 07 2011 03:11 daemir wrote:
Riot in general could communicate a hell of a lot better. GL trying to find any important red post info on either EU forum.


ummm I dont think you are giving them enough credit. as is they are much better than most other companies. I think they are trying to scale back their communication, because as a young company they were really ambitious about talking alot with the community and they got burned because of it.

people are really spoiled and need to chill abit.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 06 2011 18:19 GMT
#2883
I agree that there are cases of players needing to chill, but meh, this whole not-knowning-when-the-fucking-season-is-ending thing sucks. certain things are appropriate to communicate, others are not. This pretty clearly falls under the appropriate category.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 06 2011 18:20 GMT
#2884
Riot's better than a lot of other companies regarding communication and transparency. But they really got to stop promising things and not delivering. It's just plain annoying. I'd much rather have them say nothing than to say something and renege on that like 3-4 times.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 18:25:51
September 06 2011 18:23 GMT
#2885
yea I agree that now that riot has posted a rewards based on ladder, they should at least give like 3 weeks notice on the end of the ladder.

but in general, riot does a really good job communicating at it goes abit unnoticed. i mean its a f2p game that gets alot of new content and alot of new patches. and riot is experimenting with alot of new mediums and ways to communicate with a very large audience that is notoriously whiney and bitchy(gamers zzz....)

*edit
ryuu taht was exactly what I was saying. in the past they got super excited about the community and was very loose, which got them burned. now they are trying to tone it down and are getting burned by the community now complaining about not enough communication. its like zzz really guys? shit happens. they are a young small company that happened into a very large audience. it takes alot of time and experience to get shit organized.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 06 2011 18:25 GMT
#2886
On September 07 2011 02:42 Slayer91 wrote:
? Being super fed at 15 minutes = win game not punish mistakes lol.


how are you getting super fed at 15min when ppl are not making mistakes?
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
September 06 2011 18:26 GMT
#2887
Fuck, now I have to play ranked to avoid decay hit, if I lose I go below 1900 and I have to climb the ladder AGAIN. I WAS DONE WITH RANKED.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 18:32:02
September 06 2011 18:29 GMT
#2888
On September 07 2011 03:17 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 03:11 daemir wrote:
Riot in general could communicate a hell of a lot better. GL trying to find any important red post info on either EU forum.


ummm I dont think you are giving them enough credit. as is they are much better than most other companies. I think they are trying to scale back their communication, because as a young company they were really ambitious about talking alot with the community and they got burned because of it.

people are really spoiled and need to chill abit.


yea, xcept their own reds the few posts they make admit they need to step up. It's just that I won't find any news that gets posted on US forums from the EU forums, that's like just...fact. They seem to be unable to copy/paste the US red posts to EU or make a system that broadcasts to both platforms at same time.

An example from memory, the err support change issue, US reds asked for community opinions, EU didn't even get a topic untill days (week?) later after it was cried out for enough.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
September 06 2011 18:38 GMT
#2889
On September 07 2011 03:20 Ryuu314 wrote:
Riot's better than a lot of other companies regarding communication and transparency. But they really got to stop promising things and not delivering. It's just plain annoying. I'd much rather have them say nothing than to say something and renege on that like 3-4 times.

i kno its like when that hot guy said "hey baby lets go on a d8" like 5 times but each time he called to cancel. i found out through one of his friends that he was seeing some other ho the whole time. its better to know than to be led on.
:)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 06 2011 18:44 GMT
#2890
I wasnt aware shake was that much of a playboy.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 06 2011 18:50 GMT
#2891
On September 07 2011 03:26 GranDim wrote:
Fuck, now I have to play ranked to avoid decay hit, if I lose I go below 1900 and I have to climb the ladder AGAIN. I WAS DONE WITH RANKED.


I feel like I dun care enough to keep plat lol
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 06 2011 18:51 GMT
#2892
I'm toying with the idea of tryharding for real plat since I now have a week with only 2 wins to go on the last 2 accounts I'm getting to gold.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 06 2011 18:53 GMT
#2893
On September 07 2011 03:51 Mogwai wrote:
I'm toying with the idea of tryharding for real plat since I now have a week with only 2 wins to go on the last 2 accounts I'm getting to gold.

Ya could always duo with me on gizbro and we could get fakeplat for the both of us. Just sayin~
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 06 2011 18:54 GMT
#2894
On September 07 2011 00:28 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 00:15 TheYango wrote:
I think you're missing his point. If you nerf the utility of individual supports, it doesn't get people to start playing those champs as farm-stealing duo laners. They just stop playing that champ as support, and start playing the next champ down the line with high baseline utility as a support and you just cascade downward forever. You don't actually reach a point everyone wants to split farm because offensive stats are STILL multiplicative, and you can't get everyone to have EXACTLY-EQUAL farm dependence.


The reason you're wrong is that eventually you hit a point where a good support player on a good support hero can still hold on, while otherwise two guys playing nukers or whatnot at bot lane will win, like the old days.

Right now what's wrong with support heroes is that it usually is difficult for two nukers to defeat the support +1, because support heroes have too strong a baseline strength and are able to trump nukers.

That said, as I mentioned yesterday, that is a misconception. Many old-fashioned bot lanes crush support+1 right now, but people are too stupid to do it.


tbh it's not about support+1, it's about AD+support (since that what everyone and their mothers think is da best thing eva)

In that spirit: Panth/Janna . Panth/Taric . Brand/Taric.

Get first kill.

"lol theyre so scared now"

get random stun off, kill em in one combo

"oh thats why trollolol"

(Oh and make the support get that soul shroud mana for both item. so strong.)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 18:57:16
September 06 2011 18:55 GMT
#2895
On September 07 2011 00:59 Southlight wrote:
Wait are you telling me that you think Cow doesn't need farm? lol, that bitch carries so hard when farmed. He carried too well at one point.

i still think the solo lane assassin build with triforce ghostblade is absolutely stupid, people just don't run it, i guess because it was worse than the ap build when that was completely broken so they think of it as a relatively weak option
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 06 2011 18:55 GMT
#2896
On September 07 2011 03:54 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 00:28 Southlight wrote:
On September 07 2011 00:15 TheYango wrote:
I think you're missing his point. If you nerf the utility of individual supports, it doesn't get people to start playing those champs as farm-stealing duo laners. They just stop playing that champ as support, and start playing the next champ down the line with high baseline utility as a support and you just cascade downward forever. You don't actually reach a point everyone wants to split farm because offensive stats are STILL multiplicative, and you can't get everyone to have EXACTLY-EQUAL farm dependence.


The reason you're wrong is that eventually you hit a point where a good support player on a good support hero can still hold on, while otherwise two guys playing nukers or whatnot at bot lane will win, like the old days.

Right now what's wrong with support heroes is that it usually is difficult for two nukers to defeat the support +1, because support heroes have too strong a baseline strength and are able to trump nukers.

That said, as I mentioned yesterday, that is a misconception. Many old-fashioned bot lanes crush support+1 right now, but people are too stupid to do it.


tbh it's not about support+1, it's about AD+support (since that what everyone and their mothers think is da best thing eva)

In that spirit: Panth/Janna . Panth/Taric . Brand/Taric.

Get first kill.

"lol theyre so scared now"

get random stun off, kill em in one combo

"oh thats why trollolol"

(Oh and make the support get that soul shroud mana for both item. so strong.)


Soraka Veigar used to stomp lanes. It was support+1. Doesn't matter what the partner was, support hero was so strong that it basically single-handedly crushed no-support lanes.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
September 06 2011 18:57 GMT
#2897
On September 07 2011 03:50 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 03:26 GranDim wrote:
Fuck, now I have to play ranked to avoid decay hit, if I lose I go below 1900 and I have to climb the ladder AGAIN. I WAS DONE WITH RANKED.


I feel like I dun care enough to keep plat lol


I worked my way from ~1550 to 1900 in something like a week, I don't want that much effort to be wasted.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 19:00:50
September 06 2011 19:00 GMT
#2898
Riot will probably cave and freeze Elo Decay when enough people complain on the official forums.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 06 2011 19:05 GMT
#2899
On September 07 2011 03:57 GranDim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 03:50 Southlight wrote:
On September 07 2011 03:26 GranDim wrote:
Fuck, now I have to play ranked to avoid decay hit, if I lose I go below 1900 and I have to climb the ladder AGAIN. I WAS DONE WITH RANKED.


I feel like I dun care enough to keep plat lol


I worked my way from ~1550 to 1900 in something like a week, I don't want that much effort to be wasted.


I did too, and I put in teh extra effort to go from 1875 to 1900, but I don't think I care anymore.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 06 2011 19:11 GMT
#2900
errr - sorry phr0st, my client crashed and when i got back on you were logged off T_T
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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