EPTI'm finding him hard to lane against because of the 5 bounces of dark wind. If he gets lucky enough (or you're too much on the outskirts of your lane) he can cast from behind his caster minions and hit even if you stand a reasonable distance behind yours. Really annoying to trade (and I wouldn't even try in a sololane).
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I'm finding him hard to lane against because of the 5 bounces of dark wind. If he gets lucky enough (or you're too much on the outskirts of your lane) he can cast from behind his caster minions and hit even if you stand a reasonable distance behind yours. Really annoying to trade (and I wouldn't even try in a sololane). | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On September 07 2011 07:35 Alaric wrote: Thought so. So Soraka's silence isn't a viable counter to Fiddle. I'm finding him hard to lane against because of the 5 bounces of dark wind. If he gets lucky enough (or you're too much on the outskirts of your lane) he can cast from behind his caster minions and hit even if you stand a reasonable distance behind yours. Really annoying to trade (and I wouldn't even try in a sololane). I just had a game earlier where our mid fiddle fed FB to morgana, and then proceeded to outfarm her while she rushed banshees. real 1600 elo. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On September 07 2011 07:35 Alaric wrote: Thought so. So Soraka's silence isn't a viable counter to Fiddle. I'm finding him hard to lane against because of the 5 bounces of dark wind. If he gets lucky enough (or you're too much on the outskirts of your lane) he can cast from behind his caster minions and hit even if you stand a reasonable distance behind yours. Really annoying to trade (and I wouldn't even try in a sololane). If you just hit him hard right out the gate Soraka actually works pretty good. You just go in full force and if he tries to drain you, snap it with a silence. Pre-level 6 you should be able to smack him around a good deal, atleast send him back once or twice if not kill him. Once he hits level 6 you just need to pick some mercs. This allows you to break his fear fast enough to cast a silence before his uses his ulti. That said, that is only relevant if he is leveling his fear first. If he is leveling his fear first im not entirely sure where he would be getting his damage from because both shadow bird and life drain aren't exactly top notch damage dealers if they stay at level 1. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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nesteaplunger
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On September 07 2011 07:27 Alaric wrote: Hum? Does a silence casted on non-channeling spells like Kart's zone, or Morg's or Fiddle's ult end their effect? Anivia's ult gets cancelled by silences and its really annoying. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 07 2011 09:06 Southlight wrote: I wish I, too, played against these top 200 players who cast max range Q on Swain and channel Fiddle ults in range of people. Fiddle ults currently aren't being interrupted properly if he is stunned/silenced/whatevered during channeling. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 07 2011 09:26 WaveofShadow wrote: Fiddle ults currently aren't being interrupted properly if he is stunned/silenced/whatevered during channeling. Are you sure it's during channeling or after cast. The impression I get from most of the posts (ie. comparison to Karth and Morg) is that silence/stuns/etc. do not interrupt post channel. You can look at this page's stuff as well as the latter half of last page to confirm what I read. If it's during channel that's a wonderful bug  But I've not personally experienced it, at least prior to Talon patch, so can't say much about it.Edit: Sorry, wrote that wrong. The impression I get is that people are complaining that it's not interrupting post-channel, which is "working as intended" because those aren't actually being channeled. This makes the complaint about Anivia's ult more apt, as she's not channeling any different than Karth and Maokai. | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On September 07 2011 06:54 -Kato- wrote: I just hope for Lee Sin nerfs. the poor guy's already blind. why so meannnnnnn. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 07 2011 09:30 Southlight wrote: Are you sure it's during channeling or after cast. The impression I get from most of the posts (ie. comparison to Karth and Morg) is that silence/stuns/etc. do not interrupt post channel. You can look at this page's stuff as well as the latter half of last page to confirm what I read. If it's during channel that's a wonderful bug But I've not personally experienced it, at least prior to Talon patch, so can't say much about it.Edit: Sorry, wrote that wrong. The impression I get is that people are complaining that it's not interrupting post-channel, which is "working as intended" because those aren't actually being channeled. This makes the complaint about Anivia's ult more apt, as she's not channeling any different than Karth and Maokai. Nah I've actually seen on stream and ingame, Sion stuns, Soraka silences, Kass Null Spheres clearly hitting Fiddle in the middle of his channel (not at the end), he teleports, the ult goes off, and then he is silenced/stunned/whatever, which is NOT working as intended as far as I can tell. Also, Season 2 confirmed for next week. http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/13378/?p=1 | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 07 2011 07:27 Alaric wrote: Hum? Does a silence casted on non-channeling spells like Kart's zone, or Morg's or Fiddle's ult end their effect? Which is why the guy responded On September 07 2011 07:35 Alaric wrote: Thought so. So Soraka's silence isn't a viable counter to Fiddle. Which was then followed by a wonderful "Soraka counters Fiddle ult because Fear doesn't last long enough through Treads" which is where my sarcastic On September 07 2011 09:06 Southlight wrote: I wish I, too, played against these top 200 players who cast max range Q on Swain and channel Fiddle ults in range of people. Came from. Hope that clears that :p | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 07 2011 09:52 Crucifix wrote: LeeSin doesn't need any nerfs :\ He stomps low level normal games so he needs to be nerfed. Although it's a wonder why morde hasn't been nerfed into unusable...he's been stomping idiots for a year now... | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
im an asshole lol | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On September 07 2011 10:22 locodoco wrote: wow i just realized.... im an asshole lol quoted for truth | ||
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Craton
United States17294 Posts
Map: Summoner's Rift GYPT BabyPuncher: hey guys unfeedible: I cant mid Cratonz: hi unfeedible: ty GTwitch: WHY CAN'T I WINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN GYPT BabyPuncher: ill mid GYPT BabyPuncher: lol GYPT BabyPuncher: i jsut lost last game GTwitch: mother fk GYPT BabyPuncher: we had it won GYPT BabyPuncher: .... ** Fiddlesticks has been Banned. ** GTwitch: I go legendary GTwitch: ppl initiate 4v5 2 times GTwitch: and lose unfeedible: I cant Ap carry / AP support GTwitch: I win my lane Cratonz: you werent legendary last game GTwitch: i lose Cratonz: lol ** Lee Sin has been Banned. ** GTwitch: i'm not GTwitch: talking about last game GTwitch: idiot GTwitch: 3 games ago Cratonz: l0l GTwitch: I was legendary as irelia ** Orianna has been Banned. ** Cratonz: you tell this story every time we get in champ select tho GTwitch: still coldn't win b/c ppl initiate 4v5 ** Mordekaiser has been Banned. ** GYPT BabyPuncher: ban morg imo GTwitch: over and over and over unfeedible: morg alive ** Summoner 1 has chosen Gangplank. ** GTwitch: who gives shit GTwitch: btw Cratonz GYPT BabyPuncher: i dont paly morg... GTwitch: I'ma troll you if you make me pissed off GYPT BabyPuncher: anybody want her? GTwitch: b/c I don't care anymore GYPT BabyPuncher: i can go top or ad carry GTwitch: get me morg GTwitch: then ** Zona Seeker has chosen Olaf. ** ** GYPT BabyPuncher has chosen Morgana. ** GYPT BabyPuncher: kk unfeedible: who play? GYPT BabyPuncher: ill ad carry or top irela unfeedible: ill jar4 top solo Solo Q ragers hahahaha | ||
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Qualm
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On September 07 2011 09:52 Crucifix wrote: LeeSin doesn't need any nerfs :\ Funny joke. | ||
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