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On August 25 2011 01:59 Niton wrote:Wait a second. Wetdream.. hacking? WHERE HAVE I HEARD THIS BEFORE.
Yeah the thread mentions that he hacked in broodwar as well. This guy seems to be quite a douche. Did you look at the one picture where he ordered someone to "hack some people"? *shivers*
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On August 25 2011 01:58 Zenithal wrote: Wait, you build him AP? I thought he was a straight AD/AS build.
Hm. I can kind of see WC with big AP being good, but he still doesn't seem to have an advantage over any other AP carry in the game. I don't see why to pick him over Ryze or Annie any day. The stun is nice, but 1v1 if you miss a single Gold you're kinda fucked.
Ninja edit: Not sure if mana's a huge problem with AP TF, if you're spamming WC. Pick up mana potions or just pull a Blue every so often?
AP is the primary way to build TF. Like everyone has been saying, the biggest weakness for an AD TF is his incredibly short attack range (not to mention is innately low base move speed). With AP TF, he gets himself into the range required to land a GC then bursts with WC. Low CD of WC means you have a few chances to throw them in a team fight.
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On August 25 2011 01:58 Zenithal wrote: Wait, you build him AP? I thought he was a straight AD/AS build.
Hm. I can kind of see WC with big AP being good, but he still doesn't seem to have an advantage over any other AP carry in the game. I don't see why to pick him over Ryze or Annie any day. The stun is nice, but 1v1 if you miss a single Gold you're kinda fucked.
Ninja edit: Not sure if mana's a huge problem with AP TF, if you're spamming WC. Pick up mana potions or just pull a Blue every so often?
I'm just gonna say it. He's god awful as AD/AS against anyone who knows what they're doing. He's basically in Melee range in order to auto attack (I don't think his attack outranges a single stun or hard CC) so you have to commit to anything and everything. You sacrifice one of his abilities almost completely (Wild Cards turns into a BV popper instead of a potent nuke) and a single mistep once you've engaged leaves you dead.
He does basically nothing better then any other AD/AS carry out there.
It is important to note that he's unlike annie/brand when playing AP in the sense that his goal isn't to just roflstomp someone in .5 seconds with his combo once he gets all of his abilities, but he can wear someone down from range without effecting his farm at all (and he can clear waves pretty quick with red card and wild cards)
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On August 25 2011 01:59 Niton wrote:Wait a second. Wetdream.. hacking? WHERE HAVE I HEARD THIS BEFORE.
How the fuck do you hack in League of Legends? Isn't most of the stuff server side?
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Big fan of AP tf, he's got one of the better pokes in the game so long as you can hit your wild cards. The only downside to TF is the fact his ult is most of the time worthless, people can dodge wild cards and pick a card is hilariously cruel style of putting your gold card option at the worst time when you need it.
He's okay, but I wouldn't play him if I had the option of a more, reliable ap type. Though he's fun for laughs.
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I think he hacks another players account. And then queues around the same time as Wetdream. If they are in the same team - he will probably dodge. Otherwise just troll insanely hard.
I assume this is how it goes down. lol.
Wetdream was/is God awful though.
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On August 25 2011 02:19 LoCicero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 01:59 Niton wrote:Wait a second. Wetdream.. hacking? WHERE HAVE I HEARD THIS BEFORE. How the fuck do you hack in League of Legends? Isn't most of the stuff server side?
Wetdream was known in the German community back in the StarCraft1 days. He hacked back then.
Edit: for reference, news post on GosuGamers when WetDream was caught hacking on iCCup.
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Well, so much for me playing LoL today. Was hoping to get online before 4 EST, but thats not going to happen now.
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so...he has a 50/50 chance to end up with the hacked account on his team/on the enemy team.
real good method to gain elo. LOL.
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There could be a few more things in your memory you could access than the client shows you: your HP5, CDR, the stats you can view for your own character but not for enemies, probably runes/masteries... You could hack the client to display hard to spot things in a more obvious way, like say Irelia's passive buff which can be used to spot enemies in brushes.
You should not be able to maphack though. Unless you kinda trick the server into sending additional data without detecting inconsistencies. Since LoL's coding doesn't seem to be impeccable, this might still be possible.
Actually, stuff like Irelia's and Fiddle's passive, as well as some other things suggest that you actually do get character information for enemies who are near you but hidden in a brush... So you could possibly unveil those...
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Just stop it right here.
Wetdream never hacked in LoL. You can't hack the game with how Riot sets up the game. Any reference to Wetdream maphacking was back during his SC1 days.
Edit: As for hacking accounts and NoS drama. That isn't hacking either. That's NoS tricking really gullible people into clicking on links that installed a keylogger onto their hard drive.
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Finally got around to reading the patch notes and quite a few big nerfs :o Don't know what I think of the Kayle changes yet but in a typical hybrid build that's around a hundred extra damage on to her Q. I forgot how well her E scales but with the 10% and shred I'm sure it hurts. Kayle/Janna lane might make a comeback.
Don't know if the sona/soraka/taric nerfs needed to be that drastic but it does bring them in line with other supports to make more choices applicable. I only felt soraka and taric were a little above the rest and needed toning down. Changes will at least make bot lane more interesting and allow for melee bot lanes to be played consistently. People might have to start putting their AD's back to mid
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On August 25 2011 02:30 NeoIllusions wrote: Edit: As for hacking accounts and NoS drama. That isn't hacking either. That's NoS tricking really gullible people into click on links that installed a keylogger onto their hard drive.
It's not hacking. It is, however, a dick move.
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Aside from that patch is pretty good ... j/k server is down.
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On August 25 2011 02:33 mrgerry wrote:Finally got around to reading the patch notes and quite a few big nerfs :o Don't know what I think of the Kayle changes yet but in a typical hybrid build that's around a hundred extra damage on to her Q. I forgot how well her E scales but with the 10% and shred I'm sure it hurts. Kayle/Janna lane might make a comeback. Don't know if the sona/soraka/taric nerfs needed to be that drastic but it does bring them in line with other supports to make more choices applicable. I only felt soraka and taric were a little above the rest and needed toning down. Changes will at least make bot lane more interesting and allow for melee bot lanes to be played consistently. People might have to start putting their AD's back to mid 
Thank lordy... I can only hope.
AD/Support bot meta is quite possibly the most boring...
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great, now after 3 hrs downtime my EU games dont start, so i am exactly where i was 3 hrs ago.
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On August 24 2011 22:22 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 21:36 zalz wrote:On August 24 2011 21:27 spinesheath wrote:On August 24 2011 20:35 phyvo wrote: RIP Nidalee
They nerfed her healing which is her only good laning skill before ulti so now she can't lane for beans vs any of the popular sustain bruisers.
Pounce was also straight up nerfed until you get 25% CDR... so you more or less need to hog blue buff to have pounce where it was before or to have hope of having mana for your heal.
To give you an idea, buying DR+WOTA and throwing max range max skill spears at level 9 is now just as mana efficient (2.1 hp/mana) for healing as buying DR+NLR + BW and healing yourself with max E (also 2.1). The heal does scale better for healing but at least with WotA you can also heal yourself for free with cougar form...
(also if you only put one level in E then, surprise surprise, with DR+WOTA your healing efficiency is again at 2.1 hp/mana) All the other high sustain champs are getting nerfed too. So what if Nidalee doesn't have a godmode laning phase? Those new Spears and the recent buff(bugfix) to Traps make her really strong mid/lategame. Noone of that matters. You can still go top, you can still punish without end and you can still never be ganked. Nidalee just goes top and push till the inhib is down, and she can still do that. Perhaps even better now that the leap is going to be subject to CD reduction. One of the most impactful plays by Hotshot at Gamescom was him standing behind the wall at the enemy inner bottom tower and spamming spears for massive damage. This does matter. Reducing the Armor + MRes of an enemy by 40% also is MASSIVE. That's the stuff that makes tanks melt.
eh game was pretty much already over by than
On August 25 2011 02:30 NeoIllusions wrote: Just stop it right here.
Wetdream never hacked in LoL. You can't hack the game with how Riot sets up the game. Any reference to Wetdream maphacking was back during his SC1 days.
Edit: As for hacking accounts and NoS drama. That isn't hacking either. That's NoS tricking really gullible people into clicking on links that installed a keylogger onto their hard drive.
eh? stealing someone's account with a keylogger isn't hacking?
I'm not saying it's sophisticated but I don't see the distinction between hacking and what nos does.
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My normal game last night, during champion selection I wait on what everybody picks and choose Singed since the team was squishy. This one guys says:
"Singed? I hope you know that Singed is really fucking bad."
He promptly queue dodged. What a hilarious moment.
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On August 25 2011 02:36 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2011 02:33 mrgerry wrote:Finally got around to reading the patch notes and quite a few big nerfs :o Don't know what I think of the Kayle changes yet but in a typical hybrid build that's around a hundred extra damage on to her Q. I forgot how well her E scales but with the 10% and shred I'm sure it hurts. Kayle/Janna lane might make a comeback. Don't know if the sona/soraka/taric nerfs needed to be that drastic but it does bring them in line with other supports to make more choices applicable. I only felt soraka and taric were a little above the rest and needed toning down. Changes will at least make bot lane more interesting and allow for melee bot lanes to be played consistently. People might have to start putting their AD's back to mid  Thank lordy... I can only hope. AD/Support bot meta is quite possibly the most boring...
More like stacking another bruiser into your comp and screw the AD Carry!
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