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Angra
United States2652 Posts
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Carush
United States356 Posts
On August 13 2011 17:35 SevenAteNine wrote: this is really just your point of view but there one big fact you are not taking into consideration League of Legends is drastically different then Starcraft 2 there's really no connection to be made the popularity of Starcraft 2 hasen't made a dent in a game like say Halo 3 BW died directly due to SC2 well first off i was a halo 3 amateur player who attended a few events and i totally disagree with you saying that sc2 popularity is nothing compared to halo 3 popularity i have no clue what the fuck you're talking about tbh and brood war in the foreign scene was a TOTAL joke compared to all the other games at the time sc2 didn't kill brood war in the foreign scene it was already dead wcg and tsl was all there was for brood war and tsl didn't come until 2008 and wcg was a mess | ||
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Blueblox
Canada30 Posts
 [do not take this as if it doesn't deserve a big prize pool] | ||
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SevenAteNine
126 Posts
On August 13 2011 17:52 Carush wrote: well first off i was a halo 3 amateur player who attended a few events and i totally disagree with you saying that sc2 popularity is nothing compared to halo 3 popularity i have no clue what the fuck you're talking about tbh and brood war in the foreign scene was a TOTAL joke compared to all the other games at the time sc2 didn't kill brood war in the foreign scene it was already dead wcg and tsl was all there was for brood war and tsl didn't come until 2008 and wcg was a mess lol, where the fuck do you get off first of all you completely misread my statement i didnt say anything as far as sc2>=Halo 3 im saying Halo 3 players arnt jumping ship because of SC2 you dont see Dota players leaving for SC2 in mass any Halo Pro's leave for SC2? ill chalk that rude statement up to a misunderstanding and as far as SC2 killing BW where did all the top level non-korean BW players go when SC2 was launched that is what i call a kill in my personal opinion | ||
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MandoRelease
France374 Posts
As far i'm concerned, i don't even play the game, so there's no way i'm gonna watch the stream since I know i won't enjoy watching it. I'm just interested in how things will develop for the competitive scene of LoL on year from now. It feels the main reason for its success is that it's f2p, and the quality of the game comes after (even though it's a great game). I think it should be the other way around for the game to succeed in that competitive environment. | ||
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dc302
Australia576 Posts
On August 13 2011 17:55 Blueblox wrote: why does LoL have a bigger prize pool than Sc2? [do not take this as if it doesn't deserve a big prize pool]Probably because you need 5 players in one team (if I'm not mistaken). | ||
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XupinatoR
Spain125 Posts
But well, gl to all the teams! | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On August 13 2011 18:16 dc302 wrote: Probably because you need 5 players in one team (if I'm not mistaken). This. That prize is being split up 5 times lol. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
1 FPS,1 RTS and 1 Moba game.I think they are a little bit hesitant with the fighting game because there are so many out there right now and they are not sure yet which one would be optimal for the future.I'd like to see that selectiveness applied here until Dota comes out. Personally i think black ops is just a dead weight right now compared to Halo which is a superior shooter compared to it imo,I think the game will be cut soon from the circuit.I'd hate to see the same thing happen to LoL,if Dota turns out to be the far superior competitive game. | ||
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NightySC
Norway168 Posts
Edit: Have to agree with the person above me to about DoTA 2. Will be interesting to see what happens when it gets launched. Imo it will take a lot of players away from both HoN and LoL. But who knows? | ||
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careohx
263 Posts
Another problem is that to spectate these kind of games requiresa high level of hero spell knowledge which the usual spectator doesnt have. Thus the game will never be popular amongst those who dont play. The main reason Starcraft 2 has become such a big thing is because even if u dont know anything about it you understand whats going on. Esports have to grow beyond having a "good" "fun" game into having a "good" "fun" and "spectator friendly game" which the majority of people can understand without prior brainstorming to go more mainstream. | ||
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Zavior
Finland753 Posts
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
I understand that this game is 1000x easier than SC2 so a lot more people play it, but beyond that, I dont understand it. And having playing Dota since 2.0, then trying HoN and LoL... LoL was by far the least competitive one of them all... I dont understand how there are "pros" in this. I understand the draw of Dota and its clones though, because its like an interesting mix between a MMO and RTS in my opinion. Dota/LoL/Hon is like playing a mmorpg. Getting levels, getting gear, killing people. Its like any MMO with PvP but lvling/experiencing all content takes place in an hour. And its an RTS because it is about your strategies/positioning/control. MEH IDK tho, to be honest I am just stoked for Dota 2, because DotA with updated graphics will easily stomp all over LoL and HoN, which are just imitations, but with better graphics/interface above Dota. Once DotA2 has these, these 2 games are going to disappear/cut DRASTICALLY in size/player base. To be honest the only reason LoL picked up so much attention/so many players was because it was completely free. I have friends who dont even know what Dota is, who play LoL because it was free, and saw the ad on facebook. | ||
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NuclearJudas
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tztztz
Germany314 Posts
On August 13 2011 18:56 careohx wrote: They should have waited for DoTA2 however much u like to play LOL its not as competitive as DoTA. Another problem is that to spectate these kind of games requiresa high level of hero spell knowledge which the usual spectator doesnt have. Thus the game will never be popular amongst those who dont play. The main reason Starcraft 2 has become such a big thing is because even if u dont know anything about it you understand whats going on. Esports have to grow beyond having a "good" "fun" game into having a "good" "fun" and "spectator friendly game" which the majority of people can understand without prior brainstorming to go more mainstream. i don't think you always understand what's going on in sc2 (ht feedbacking, cloak banshee on the way without p having robo, etc.), i think the the level of understanding as a noob is pretty equal. especially with good commenting. yeah, in lol you need more knowledge of heros, spells and items, but it's also a more straight forward game, it's about 5 heros walking around and trying to kill the other 5 heros. pretty simple to observe imo. if someone fails a 4 gate in pvp and gg, a noob wont understand why the game is over now, in lol if one team kills all heros of the other team, it's obvious what happend und whats going to happen. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On August 13 2011 19:19 tztztz wrote: i don't think you always understand what's going on in sc2 (ht feedbacking, cloak banshee on the way without p having robo, etc.), i think the the level of understanding as a noob is pretty equal. especially with good commenting. yeah, in lol you need more knowledge of heros, spells and items, but it's also a more straight forward game, it's about 5 heros walking around and trying to kill the other 5 heros. pretty simple to observe imo. if someone fails a 4 gate in pvp and gg, a noob wont understand why the game is over now, in lol if one team kills all heros of the other team, it's obvious what happend und whats going to happen. The amount of heroes and balance issues along with items and skills makes it infinitely more difficult to have anything but a completely basic understanding of anything in LoL/HoN for a casual watcher. | ||
520
United States2822 Posts
Many of the current LoL fanbase: 1) Are casuals and have such a) Not played DotA before b) Have little intention of playing DotA 2. 2) Have invested time and money into LoL and as such have no incentive to switch 3) Play the game primarily with their friends, so they have no incentive to switch either. DotA 2 will likely draw the "hardcore" crowd from HoN, DotA 1 and higher level LoL into its folds, but the casual scene of LoL is very loyal to its game. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On August 13 2011 19:25 scintilliaSD wrote: If anything, DotA 2 will end up killing Heroes of Newerth and League of Legends will emerge from it relatively unscathed. League of Legends is a game that spreads by popularity, not as much by means of its gameplay merits. The game does cater to casuals, and as such... Many of the current LoL fanbase: 1) Are casuals and have such a) Not played DotA before b) Have little intention of playing DotA 2. 2) Have invested time and money into LoL and as such have no incentive to switch 3) Play the game primarily with their friends, so they have no incentive to switch either. DotA 2 will likely draw the "hardcore" crowd from HoN, DotA 1 and higher level LoL into its folds, but the casual scene of LoL is very loyal to its game. In addition, LoL has an entire set of mechanics (runes and masteries) that appear to not be translating into DotA 2. LoL and HoN/DotA are fundamentally very different games, so I don't expect LoL to wither from DotA's existence. | ||
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SevenAteNine
126 Posts
On August 13 2011 19:04 MaestroSC wrote: Meh I dont even understand how there is a pro-scene for this game. I understand that this game is 1000x easier than SC2 so a lot more people play it, but beyond that, I dont understand it. And having playing Dota since 2.0, then trying HoN and LoL... LoL was by far the least competitive one of them all... I dont understand how there are "pros" in this. I understand the draw of Dota and its clones though, because its like an interesting mix between a MMO and RTS in my opinion. Dota/LoL/Hon is like playing a mmorpg. Getting levels, getting gear, killing people. Its like any MMO with PvP but lvling/experiencing all content takes place in an hour. And its an RTS because it is about your strategies/positioning/control. MEH IDK tho, to be honest I am just stoked for Dota 2, because DotA with updated graphics will easily stomp all over LoL and HoN, which are just imitations, but with better graphics/interface above Dota. Once DotA2 has these, these 2 games are going to disappear/cut DRASTICALLY in size/player base. To be honest the only reason LoL picked up so much attention/so many players was because it was completely free. I have friends who dont even know what Dota is, who play LoL because it was free, and saw the ad on facebook. League of Legends has an extremely loyal following how else do you think they pull off such high viewership end of the day its all about popularity sc2 for example sc2 gains alot of popularity money follow more players follow skill level raises to keep up with compatition you could easily see this type of trend happen with LoL also there is no Denying? so i dont see Dota/hon having such a unique jungle system there's alot of depth that LoL's jungle gives the game that you simply dont see with Dota/Hon people really dont take this into consideration | ||
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Dezire
Netherlands640 Posts
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