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On August 14 2011 09:02 arthur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 08:56 Tooplark wrote:On August 14 2011 08:44 UniversalSnip wrote:Very few junglers actually NEED Wriggle's, but it's still a common buy on almost any autoattack-based jungler simply because the early game control benefits are so good. Trundle, Warwick, Lee Sin, Olaf, etc. have absolutely no problems clearing without Wriggle's, but they still do so an overwhelmingly large percentage of the time. yeah they do have a problem clearing without razors, I'm surprised you didn't notice it takes like a week without it. olaf is the only one I would even consider not building wriggles on because he has a really strong clear spell and even then it would slow you down sooooo much when you don't have blue. makes me wonder what your secret razorless lee sin jungle build is, item is not even that good on him but you need it to jungle SECRET RAZORLESS LEE SIN JUNGLE BUILD + Show Spoiler +SCENE: A dark room, with a desk and desklamp at its center.
RUGFEEDER: My young padawan, today I shall teach you the secret to jungling without Wriggle's Lantern with Lee Sin.
USNIP: Yes, my lord?
RUGFEEDER: You press Q.
USNIP: Yes?
RUGFEEDER: And click on some random creep.
USNIP: And?
RUGFEEDER: And that is it. With WW 9 times out of ten i prefer to just buy razer and not wriggles, then late/midgame i can up it to bloodrazer. Only time i get wriggles on WW is when i think we cant win lategame and we really need early game advantage.....
Yep, that's what I do. He already gets tons of lifesteal from his passive and Q; wriggles is just unnecessary. The 600g saved is worth 8 wards, so you aren't getting free money by getting wriggles instead of wards, plus you can build your BR that much sooner.
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On August 14 2011 09:06 Tooplark wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 08:59 Shikyo wrote:On August 14 2011 08:56 Tooplark wrote:On August 14 2011 08:44 UniversalSnip wrote:Very few junglers actually NEED Wriggle's, but it's still a common buy on almost any autoattack-based jungler simply because the early game control benefits are so good. Trundle, Warwick, Lee Sin, Olaf, etc. have absolutely no problems clearing without Wriggle's, but they still do so an overwhelmingly large percentage of the time. yeah they do have a problem clearing without razors, I'm surprised you didn't notice it takes like a week without it. olaf is the only one I would even consider not building wriggles on because he has a really strong clear spell and even then it would slow you down sooooo much when you don't have blue. makes me wonder what your secret razorless lee sin jungle build is, item is not even that good on him but you need it to jungle SECRET RAZORLESS LEE SIN JUNGLE BUILD + Show Spoiler +SCENE: A dark room, with a desk and desklamp at its center.
RUGFEEDER: My young padawan, today I shall teach you the secret to jungling without Wriggle's Lantern with Lee Sin.
USNIP: Yes, my lord?
RUGFEEDER: You press Q.
USNIP: Yes?
RUGFEEDER: And click on some random creep.
USNIP: And?
RUGFEEDER: And that is it. No actually that's a Yi jungle guide that you copied from someone, don't try to fool us. oh no i am discover IT IS TOO BAD THAT THIS WORKS JUST FINE B[ Wriggle's is a great item in Lee Sin and you do not need it to jungle one bit. The active ward is fantastic (1-click-w for instant escape) and the stats are good, and the proc makes your invasion much safer. HOWEVER, he can jungle super fast with just one or two points in W, and stay in jungle indefinitely at 90-100% health after his first clear. SO.
How did I know? Because on Lee Sin you press Q a second time after you hit a creep.
And I definitely would get a razor for Lee Sin jungle.
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Atlanta: I hope you weren't watching WW do red that whole time, haha.
Colby: Yeah... *akward laugh*
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So much fun watching Veigar in a tournament game. Glad the NESL decided to test out another caster to give us a break from Grackis.
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roffle
Lapaka steals baron 1v4
Pobelter: lapaka
Pobelter: have my babies
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Man it's difficult to talk while playing.
Hey I recorded a Garen laning "guide" that in fact is awful and I have no idea how to edit a Flash video so it also has like 4 minutes of unnecessary stuff, but please still watch it and tell me what you think =D
It's uploading right now.
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hehe first ban veigar from clg vs crs
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Crs insane if they don't ban orianna.
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On August 14 2011 10:28 LaNague wrote:
hehe first ban veigar from clg vs crs
Veigar becoming FotM. Now I get to be hipster and be like "I MAIN VEIGAR BEFORE HE WAS COOL."
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Eh Veigar is still a god awful laner but Crs just gank his lane 24/7 and get him beast mode. Wish people would do that in solo queue.
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On August 14 2011 10:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Veigar becoming FotM. Now I get to be hipster and be like "I MAIN VEIGAR BEFORE HE WAS COOL."
Veigar's really good until they pick Ryze as the opposing magic deeps carry. Or Galio l0l
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So CLG beat TSM with veigar and galio?
What was the complete champ lineup for each team?
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On August 14 2011 08:16 LaNague wrote:
CLG vs TSM right now:
orianna, Ashe, Sona, Galio, Fiddle
Brand Noc Cho Soraka Trist
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On August 14 2011 10:36 Senx wrote:
So CLG beat TSM with veigar and galio?
What was the complete champ lineup for each team?
galio fiddlesticks sona orianna ashe
What veigar? o_o
Chaox tristana regi brand, but I don't remember the rest of TSM sadly
EDIT: ninjad
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On August 14 2011 10:50 0123456789 wrote:
yiruru making galio fotm
also the buffs.
and hotshot
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Problem with soraka:Too passive early game, good late game, but relies heavily on laning vs laning.
lol at Crs running weaker lanes and relying on ganks. It's a good strat with Noc, but CLG was smart enough to add another presence to the map by making taric roam, and combined with jungler is stronger than soraka moving around. Good thing about kass, really strong mid game fights especially in the jungle. Problem, weak early game, weak late game. I personally don't like the wriggles on carries. You waste over 1500 gold to get an item to farm that doesn't really scale well to mid game or fights. 3 dorans would give you stronger burst and lane surv.
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That was such an amazing fight.
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EPT
