EPT[Patch 1.0.0.123: Skarner] General Discussion - Page 103
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ArC_man
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NeoIllusions
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shawster
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On August 23 2011 14:19 Shiragaku wrote: For the longest time, I kept saying that I would play DotA 2 once it is released and stop playing LoL. DotA does indeed seem like it is the better game, but the reason I do not want to be part of DotA is because the community seems so unpleasant. Same reason I do not want anything to do with people who play Battlefield, Quake, Counter-Strike, Super Smash Bros Melee, Brood War (how did it come to this?!?!?!) and people who listen to rock and metal. What is their problem? For one, they overuse the word skill and do not use the word to determine how much ability and technique it requires to perform a task, but rather, they use the word skill to see if you agree with their interest. And two, those communities seem to act like they are under attack and it is their duty to save the superior game. btw, this is a pretty big generalization. It may be hypocritical for me to say that DotA can be nasty given how cruel LoL players can be, but I guess it is related how people seem to view themselves for playing the game rather than how well someone views themselves for being good at the game. Your post is a lot more hypocritical than you think. You essentially just did exactly what 'all those other games' communities' do. Of course people defend things they enjoy, that goes far beyond gaming. FWIW I don't think people use the word skill the way you insinuate anyway. | ||
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HPoirot
United States1303 Posts
On August 23 2011 15:16 Kaniol wrote: Why "instead"? It's been 2 weeks since the release of skarner so he is supposed to be free this rotation... The original post mistakenly had Garen as being free instead of Skarner. It has since been corrected, obviously. | ||
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jtbem
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
the term "terrible player", on the other hand... | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
I'm pretty sure Garen would win v. almost every non-Jax/Udyr melee champ but I could be wrong. | ||
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Attakijing
United States693 Posts
laning in dota uses far fewer skills and is mostly about harassing, last hitting and denying laning in LoL is more dynamic because mana costs are lower and people get items for health and mana regen, so there is more ability usage and essentially more interesting laning. macro level play in dota is very interesting, involves anything from a 2v2 to 2v4 to 3v3 unless both sides are playing passive as in gamescom. these fights are faster, larger scale and there are many more of these skirmishes overall--this is because of bigger stuns and mana costs and such macro level play in LoL is basically entirely about positioning because there is no TP scroll, so you can backdoor while the other team gets dragon or baron while the other team backdoors and the other team has to sacrifice a summoners spell just to be able to stop you once every 4 minutes. the problem is that, because of this lack of mobility, LoL teams always bring all 5 people into fights that they want to win (i.e. not a defensive fight) so they don't get picked off alone. so high level play is essentially decided by one or two big fat 5v5 teamfights after a long laning phase, and whoever loses the fight suffers a huge blow to their confidence that is very difficult to overcome. also, riot wants to change this and will probably have a hard time doing so because very few of their intentions in balance changes actually accomplish their goals, so we will be seeing more boring macro gameplay for a while is this correct? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 23 2011 16:27 Ryuu314 wrote: Who should win in solo top, Garen or Rumble? I'm pretty sure Garen would win v. almost every non-Jax/Udyr melee champ but I could be wrong. Garen should beat Udyr as well, IMO. He has superior level 1 burst (Garen's Q resets the autoattack timer, has a higher AD ratio, and the silence disrupts Udyr's ability to abuse his double-stance bug), and his burst at 2 and 3 forces Udyr to cede his ability to lasthit, as Udyr's Turtle Stance will not yet be strong enough to withstand that burst, and Udyr has no ranged abilities. By the time Udyr has enough sustain to hold out against Garen, he will be too far behind. | ||
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Shiv.
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On August 23 2011 16:25 broz0rs wrote: That is somewhat true. I don't really hear the term "skill" from even some of the best players in this game. the term "terrible player", on the other hand... DX I hear it all the time when talking about other games. For example, "Call of Duty is horrible because it requires no skill" or "Pop music is terrible because it requires no skill to look good and get autotuned." | ||
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Odds
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On August 23 2011 17:55 Odds wrote: HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG triple kill at level 1 fight sorta helps l0l | ||
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Roffles
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On August 23 2011 17:49 Shiv. wrote: Meh, neither Akali, Mantheon nor Irelia free to play this week. Meanwhile, several Champs like Urgot, Ryze, Ashe, Sivir, Zilean and Veigar have been free two or more times since the last time one of those were free. DEM GOOD DECISIONS RIOT. Ashe and Sivir are like free every other week. No point buying them. Riot enjoys having the same champs on rotation, while neglecting certain champs for ages. For example, I don't even recall the last time Trundle's been free aside from that one time he was a few weeks back. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On August 23 2011 18:48 Roffles wrote: Ashe and Sivir are like free every other week. No point buying them. Riot enjoys having the same champs on rotation, while neglecting certain champs for ages. For example, I don't even recall the last time Trundle's been free aside from that one time he was a few weeks back. This week is bonus special - the only 4800 or 6300 is Skarner, and 3 of them are champions who have had price drops. | ||
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Shiv.
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On August 23 2011 18:48 Roffles wrote: Ashe and Sivir are like free every other week. No point buying them. Riot enjoys having the same champs on rotation, while neglecting certain champs for ages. For example, I don't even recall the last time Trundle's been free aside from that one time he was a few weeks back. This right here pretty much shows HOW biased Riot is about having certain champs in that rotation regularly. | ||
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-Zoda-
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JewJewBees
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DrKlingmann
Poland356 Posts
On August 23 2011 17:49 Shiv. wrote: Meh, neither Akali, Mantheon nor Irelia free to play this week. Meanwhile, several Champs like Urgot, Ryze, Ashe, Sivir, Zilean and Veigar have been free two or more times since the last time one of those were free. DEM GOOD DECISIONS RIOT. Last week we had: Since 4 rotations we've had 40 distinct champs (not even 1 repetition). Since 6 rotations we've had 52 distinct champs. (7 - 55, 8 - 60) 58 Annie, Blitzcrank, Caitlyn, Lux, Kog'Maw, Maokai, Master Yi, Morgana, Rammus, Warwick 57 Ashe, Brand, Dr. Mundo, Galio, Gangplank, Janna, Kassadin, Malphite, Sivir, Wukong 56 Amumu, Corki, Heimerdinger, Jax, Miss Fortune, Nasus, Ryze, Singed, Taric, Trundle 55 Katarina, Leona, Malzahar, Nunu, Shen, Sion, Teemo, Urgot, Veigar, Zilean 54 Anivia, Mordekaiser, Poppy, Rumble, Twisted Fate 53 Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Fiddlesticks, Garen, Renekton, Soraka, Vayne 52 Alistar, Pantheon, Yorick 51 Akali, Ezreal, Kayle, Udyr, Vladimir 50 LeBlanc, Tristana 49 Irelia, Orianna 48 Nocturne 47 Lee Sin, Swain 46 Kennen 45 Jarvan IV, Xin Zhao 44 43 Sona 42 Karthus 41 40 39 Nidalee, Olaf 38 Karma, Twitch 37 36 35 34 33 Gragas 32 Tryndamere . . . \/ 21 Shaco 13 Evelynn And now we have: Since 4 rotations we've had 39 distinct champs (just 1 repetition - Shen). Since 6 rotations we've had 49 distinct champs. (7 - 55, 8 - 58) And we have 2 champs that were unavailable for far too long (Nida - week 39, Gragas - week 33) So those rotations are quite solid for smb who wants to try many champs. And at the same time they provide good selection for new players. 59 Cho'Gath, Gragas, Nidalee, Ryze, Shen, Skarner, Teemo, Urgot, Veigar, Zilean 58 Annie, Blitzcrank, Caitlyn, Lux, Kog'Maw, Maokai, Master Yi, Morgana, Rammus, Warwick 57 Ashe, Brand, Dr. Mundo, Galio, Gangplank, Janna, Kassadin, Malphite, Sivir, Wukong 56 Amumu, Corki, Heimerdinger, Jax, Miss Fortune, Nasus, Singed, Taric, Trundle 55 Katarina, Leona, Malzahar, Nunu, Sion 54 Anivia, Mordekaiser, Poppy, Rumble, Twisted Fate 53 Cassiopeia, Fiddlesticks, Garen, Renekton, Soraka, Vayne 52 Alistar, Pantheon, Yorick 51 Akali, Ezreal, Kayle, Udyr, Vladimir 50 LeBlanc, Tristana 49 Irelia, Orianna 48 Nocturne 47 Lee Sin, Swain 46 Kennen 45 Jarvan IV, Xin Zhao 44 43 Sona 42 Karthus 41 40 39 Olaf 38 Karma, Twitch 37 36 35 34 33 32 Tryndamere . . . \/ 21 Shaco 13 Evelynn | ||
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