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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17293 Posts
July 12 2011 04:01 GMT
#21
An all-purpose set of tier 1 runes is cheap and will last you a long time. No need to go runeless 'till 20.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
July 13 2011 19:31 GMT
#22
On July 12 2011 06:29 broz0rs wrote:
the funny thing about loco's post is that it won't make any sense if you're new to the game, but if you play for more than 2 months and know the scene.. rofl

What's the best way to get in touch with said scene? There's so many LoL communities available (it seems) that I'm barely able to distinguish which are legit and which aren't.
currently rooting for myself.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 13 2011 19:50 GMT
#23
On July 14 2011 04:31 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:29 broz0rs wrote:
the funny thing about loco's post is that it won't make any sense if you're new to the game, but if you play for more than 2 months and know the scene.. rofl

What's the best way to get in touch with said scene? There's so many LoL communities available (it seems) that I'm barely able to distinguish which are legit and which aren't.

clgaming.net/livestreams

BEWARE:
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
July 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#24
On July 14 2011 04:50 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 04:31 Shiv. wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:29 broz0rs wrote:
the funny thing about loco's post is that it won't make any sense if you're new to the game, but if you play for more than 2 months and know the scene.. rofl

What's the best way to get in touch with said scene? There's so many LoL communities available (it seems) that I'm barely able to distinguish which are legit and which aren't.

clgaming.net/livestreams

BEWARE:

Thank you very much sir.
currently rooting for myself.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 13 2011 20:40 GMT
#25
DO NOT BUY A CHAMPION YOU HAVEN'T TRIED YET

If you can't wait for the champion to get free, ask a friend who has him if you can get on his account.

On July 12 2011 13:01 Craton wrote:
An all-purpose set of tier 1 runes is cheap and will last you a long time. No need to go runeless 'till 20.


^

yep.

Then when you hit 30 you can combine the runes, meaning you actually spent no IP getting those tier 1 runes in the first place.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 13 2011 21:50 GMT
#26
On July 14 2011 05:40 APurpleCow wrote:
Then when you hit 30 you can combine the runes, meaning you actually spent no IP getting those tier 1 runes in the first place.

Assuming you don't get some weird useless stuff like flat mana reds.

Though there's also the chance of getting lucky and getting an HP quint or something out of your combines (in which case you gained IP from your combining).
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Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
July 13 2011 23:07 GMT
#27
Most important things:

1. Never miss last hits. Ever. Beat yourself up when you miss last hits. Because you shouldn't.

2. Always buy wards.

3. Duo with L at erry opportunity. He will never, ever fail you in any way, shape, or form.

4. Most important chat command: /mute all
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 13 2011 23:49 GMT
#28
On July 14 2011 06:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 05:40 APurpleCow wrote:
Then when you hit 30 you can combine the runes, meaning you actually spent no IP getting those tier 1 runes in the first place.

Assuming you don't get some weird useless stuff like flat mana reds.

Though there's also the chance of getting lucky and getting an HP quint or something out of your combines (in which case you gained IP from your combining).


I thought I saw some math saying it was cheaper to combine tier 1 runes than to buy tier 3 runes, assuming you didn't already have 9x of any tier 3 runes.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 00:00:19
July 13 2011 23:58 GMT
#29
My advice would be to try all the free champs, the best way to learn the game is to play all the champions so you know what you are up against. Save your IP until level 20, that's when you can buy and use level 30 runes. Buy 1 rune page for both AD and AP characters to begin with.
+ Show Spoiler [More on runes] +
IMO the best runes to begin with that works the best on the most AP characters are Magic Penetration marks, Mana regen per level seals(Don't use these on characters where you won't have mana problems or dont use mana at all, use armor seals instead then), ability power per level or magic resist per level glyphs (i use magic resist on 99% of the characters i play, really useful) and either magic penetration or flat ability power quints.

For AD you should go with Armor Penetration marks, Mana Regen per level, Attack Speed or Armor seals (depends on what character(s) you'll be playing), Magic Resist per level or Attack speed glyphs and Armor Penetration quints.


Don't spend your IP on champions unless you are 100% sure you want the champion and will enjoy it. LoL is a pretty fun game so as long as you keep playing it you are bound to learn things along the way. Check for featured/pro builds on www.solomid.net if you aren't sure how to play a certain champion, but don't follow all guides 100% as they aren't all completely correct at all times.

The really necessary things to learn is to last hit minions (never just right click a full health minion and hope to get the gold for it) and all the game mechanics like how Armor and Magic resist affects different types of damage etc

EDIT: Also, if you have questions about any game mechanic go to www.leagueoflegends.wikia.com
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 14 2011 00:11 GMT
#30
On July 14 2011 08:49 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 06:50 TheYango wrote:
On July 14 2011 05:40 APurpleCow wrote:
Then when you hit 30 you can combine the runes, meaning you actually spent no IP getting those tier 1 runes in the first place.

Assuming you don't get some weird useless stuff like flat mana reds.

Though there's also the chance of getting lucky and getting an HP quint or something out of your combines (in which case you gained IP from your combining).


I thought I saw some math saying it was cheaper to combine tier 1 runes than to buy tier 3 runes, assuming you didn't already have 9x of any tier 3 runes.

It is cheaper, but whether it's "worth it" depends on how many rune types you consider useful. It's also very much up to luck.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 14 2011 16:02 GMT
#31
15 IP per Level 1 Rune (Using cheapest price since it doesn't matter what you combine)
5 Runes needed to upgrade to next Level

Total Cost of Tier 1 -> 3 Conversion: 15 IP * 5 * 5 = 375 IP or 25 Tier 1 Runes

Tier 3 Rune Prices
Quint - 515, 1025, or 2050 each
Rune - 205, 410, or 820 each

Disclaimer:
Not all T3 Runes are useful and by combining there is a possibility of "losing IP" because if you get a 205 IP T3 Rune it cost you 375 IP. Ideally you are pro and gamble 3x T3 HP Quints or something like that.

Conclusion: Fill your rune pages with T1 wait for 20 and get T3. When you get to 20 don't autopilot and buy runes think about it because some runes like Crit% are really champion specific.
FADC
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 14 2011 16:27 GMT
#32
On July 15 2011 01:02 rwrzr wrote:
Total Cost of Tier 1 -> 3 Conversion: 15 IP * 5 * 5 = 375 IP or 25 Tier 1 Runes

That's also assuming you're only using 15 IP runes. In practice, you'll probably want your T1 runepages to resemble their T3 counterparts, so a pretty large fraction of your T1 runes will be 30 IP runes.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 14 2011 16:40 GMT
#33
Good point and supports the earlier claim in terms of IP it probably isn't worth gambling for a T3 rune.

HOWEVER when you do get to level 20 you might as well buy 5 more 15 IP runes and gamble your 25 runes for a T3 because you might end up with a useful Quint or Rune. (I had 4 T3 HP Quints because of this :[ )
FADC
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 14 2011 17:36 GMT
#34
Big luck factor involved. I don't really advise the gambling to get a rune you might need. :/
Just wait until 20 and you can buy all T3 runes.

On July 15 2011 01:40 rwrzr wrote:
(I had 4 T3 HP Quints because of this :[ )


So you're telling me you have FOUR HP Quints and still manage to give FB???
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 18 2011 15:45 GMT
#35
silly badpaladin iirc we played an inhouse and my ashe (LOL) > your akali

HP Quints OP?

Back on topic though:

I don't think watching streams right away is necessarily a good way to learn the game :S
I only say this because most people take away 2 things:
1) XYZ Champion is OP
2) XYZ Streamer is Cool/Bad/Douche/Chill/etc etc
FADC
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