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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
July 11 2011 06:52 GMT
#1
Hey guys I have read through all the guides and watched some videos on how to play the game, and was curious if anyone would like to actually run through some games with a newbie to help me out. I have played a lot of HoN and some dota so I know the ropes around the game really well. Its much easier when there are no denies, but im still struggling with what to do during the game, what item builds to go, where to stand and creep, how to use the brush and just general knowledge of the game. If anyone would like to help out a LoL newb that would be awesome. Any general support could be great as well, like which heroes to start trying to learn this week or something like that.

Name in game: Icemagehero

Thanks a ton
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 11 2011 07:03 GMT
#2
Read the stickies first. Hardest thing about MOBAs is knowing all the champions and abilities.

Try out a few of the freebie champions and tell us which ones you like playing the most. We'll go from there.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
July 11 2011 07:07 GMT
#3
Yeah i have read all the stickies and watch some tutorial videos. Just no place to "start". Like some advice on a hero that is pretty learning friendly and fun this week. I guess thats a good place to start and then some item builds for them.
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 11 2011 07:14 GMT
#4
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=926904

Ryze
QWQEQR, R > Q > W > E
Mana crystal + 2 hp pots => Tear => Boots => Catalyst => Sorc Boots or Merc Treads => Glacial Shroud => Frozen Heart or Banshee's (depending on enemy composition, decide if you need Armor or MR more) => whatever you didn't get previously => Void Staff

Cait
WQQEQR, R > Q > W >= E
Doran's Blade => Boots => Blade x2 => Zerker Greaves => Bloodthrister => Phantom Dancer => Last Whisper
Fit in a Banshee's if you need surviability

For the most part, just check the Champion threads for builds. I'm simply regurgitating info here and all it takes is a little effort on your part to find them.
If you have a more specific question, that'd make more sense.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 11 2011 07:56 GMT
#5
I learned to play by watching livestreams. My old computer couldnt handle lol, so I ended up stumbling upon it in streams. I just watched a lot of streams to learn about last hitting, followed recommended builds for champs, then when I started to know what items did what I went about optimizing builds to my personal taste. Best way to do it is just follow the recommended items at first. They arent perfect, but more often then not they will get the job done until you have enough experience and decide which characters you like and want to really learn about.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
July 11 2011 08:11 GMT
#6
if u played dota or hon u shouldn't really need any outside help till atleast level 30
anyways here's what i would tell myself i could go back in time when i first started
1.save ip till 30
2.play free champs
3.dont buy trist,get her from fb u dummy
4.dont play with the koreans they'll screw u over
5.kick chaox from tsm so saint doesnt leave
6.dont talk to kiruur she's a bitch
7.ALWAYS CHECK IF UR STREAMING before u do anything "personal"
8.dont just play trist,it'll make u a one trick pony
9.dont post on tl is a waste of time
10.streaming will make u more cash than playing in tourney games or ur shitty barista job
11.youri is gonna dump u when she finds out u been ditching her to meet "online" friends
12.u can be the best ad in game only if u dont let school get in the way and constantly tryhard
13.add oddone,tell him u think his annie is pro(his insecure and we'll eat up any compliments
14. add saint,ask him if he wants to play with girls(he likes hitting on girls online)
15. add regi,challenge him to a 1 v 1 and crush him(his ego wont let it go)
16. add pgb,tell him ur from the future(he'll believe u cuz his dumb like that)
17. make a team with the above 4 and conquer the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18. also nika is a whore and she's gonna start being a bitch and stop buying u cigarettes, hold onto her until u meet youri and enjoy the bjs~(ps she wont give u back the avril lavinge cd's after u break up,so either dont lend it to her or get them back before u dump her)
19. eve is seceretly op,abuse her before riot remakes
20. UNINSTALL THIS GAME AND FOCUS ON SCHOOL IT'S GONNA DESTROY UR LIFE

i wish riot would give me better ping
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 11 2011 08:16 GMT
#7
ok. Locodoco just made my week. And its Sunday. Only gonna go downhill from here.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 11 2011 08:42 GMT
#8
On July 11 2011 17:11 locodoco wrote:
if u played dota or hon u shouldn't really need any outside help till atleast level 30
anyways here's what i would tell myself i could go back in time when i first started
1.save ip till 30
2.play free champs
3.dont buy trist,get her from fb u dummy
4.dont play with the koreans they'll screw u over
5.kick chaox from tsm so saint doesnt leave
6.dont talk to kiruur she's a bitch
7.ALWAYS CHECK IF UR STREAMING before u do anything "personal"
8.dont just play trist,it'll make u a one trick pony
9.dont post on tl is a waste of time
10.streaming will make u more cash than playing in tourney games or ur shitty barista job
11.youri is gonna dump u when she finds out u been ditching her to meet "online" friends
12.u can be the best ad in game only if u dont let school get in the way and constantly tryhard
13.add oddone,tell him u think his annie is pro(his insecure and we'll eat up any compliments
14. add saint,ask him if he wants to play with girls(he likes hitting on girls online)
15. add regi,challenge him to a 1 v 1 and crush him(his ego wont let it go)
16. add pgb,tell him ur from the future(he'll believe u cuz his dumb like that)
17. make a team with the above 4 and conquer the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18. also nika is a whore and she's gonna start being a bitch and stop buying u cigarettes, hold onto her until u meet youri and enjoy the bjs~(ps she wont give u back the avril lavinge cd's after u break up,so either dont lend it to her or get them back before u dump her)
19. eve is seceretly op,abuse her before riot remakes
20. UNINSTALL THIS GAME AND FOCUS ON SCHOOL IT'S GONNA DESTROY UR LIFE


Awww why no post on TL. Your sparse posts make visiting this subforum worth it xP
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 11 2011 09:04 GMT
#9
On July 11 2011 17:42 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 17:11 locodoco wrote:
if u played dota or hon u shouldn't really need any outside help till atleast level 30
anyways here's what i would tell myself i could go back in time when i first started
1.save ip till 30
2.play free champs
3.dont buy trist,get her from fb u dummy
4.dont play with the koreans they'll screw u over
5.kick chaox from tsm so saint doesnt leave
6.dont talk to kiruur she's a bitch
7.ALWAYS CHECK IF UR STREAMING before u do anything "personal"
8.dont just play trist,it'll make u a one trick pony
9.dont post on tl is a waste of time
10.streaming will make u more cash than playing in tourney games or ur shitty barista job
11.youri is gonna dump u when she finds out u been ditching her to meet "online" friends
12.u can be the best ad in game only if u dont let school get in the way and constantly tryhard
13.add oddone,tell him u think his annie is pro(his insecure and we'll eat up any compliments
14. add saint,ask him if he wants to play with girls(he likes hitting on girls online)
15. add regi,challenge him to a 1 v 1 and crush him(his ego wont let it go)
16. add pgb,tell him ur from the future(he'll believe u cuz his dumb like that)
17. make a team with the above 4 and conquer the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18. also nika is a whore and she's gonna start being a bitch and stop buying u cigarettes, hold onto her until u meet youri and enjoy the bjs~(ps she wont give u back the avril lavinge cd's after u break up,so either dont lend it to her or get them back before u dump her)
19. eve is seceretly op,abuse her before riot remakes
20. UNINSTALL THIS GAME AND FOCUS ON SCHOOL IT'S GONNA DESTROY UR LIFE


Awww why no post on TL. Your sparse posts make visiting this subforum worth it xP

Wow Loco handing out the knowledge! Thanks for the good laughs.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 11 2011 09:52 GMT
#10
yeah... that loco post is aweomse.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9777 Posts
July 11 2011 12:12 GMT
#11
ty loco 4 epic wisdomz
boomer hands
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
July 11 2011 12:50 GMT
#12
LOL Loco #1
hi
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
July 11 2011 21:08 GMT
#13
On July 11 2011 17:11 locodoco wrote:
7.ALWAYS CHECK IF UR STREAMING before u do anything "personal"

i remember this, lol
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
July 11 2011 21:14 GMT
#14
I was in the same boat as you 2-3 weeks ago when i started LoL. I was an avid Hon/dota player. The major difference I see in this game is disables is worth so much more and caster is actually good in late game(this still feels odd to me). But yea add me "aceofblade" if you want to get some game in.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
July 11 2011 21:29 GMT
#15
the funny thing about loco's post is that it won't make any sense if you're new to the game, but if you play for more than 2 months and know the scene.. rofl

in any case, i'm relatively new as well. the best thing to do is learn a few champs and stick with them (make sure they don't suck). Learn the types of champs and make a selection to fill in a match. In lv. 1-30 games everybody picks bruisers or ranged AD carrys. I usually play tanks, even though I prefer to play ranged AD. By late game, a tanky character makes the biggest difference to head into team fights.
juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
July 11 2011 21:52 GMT
#16
LoL is very easy compared to HoN and DotA imo. From 1-30 its simple just learning the game. Once you hit 30, ranked is where it becomes more of a challenge. Your MOBA background if good/decent should make you a above average player for the beginning of your LoL career
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
July 11 2011 23:28 GMT
#17
Jesus, who is this locodoco guy? Some top pro that really likes to troll haha or what
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 11 2011 23:45 GMT
#18
TL #1 Locodoco circle jerk.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 11 2011 23:58 GMT
#19
i like how the thread lasted 5 replies before locodoco turned it into about himself
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 12 2011 02:37 GMT
#20
hey, just play the game so you know what all the champions can do.

I never played games like this before (well actually i once played an early dota version on a lan without knowing that it was dota and even when everyone talked about dota a year later i didnt realize that it was "that custom map on that lan i played once that was really cool" until 2 years ago)
and i got constantly surprised by what all the champs did to me :D.
Your really dont have anything to loose and at the beginning you learn the most by just playing.

at 30 you might want to try and stick with one ore two champs and get your skillevel up that way faster. because by then you know what to do in general but you need to make the right overall strategy decisions and you need to know how to lane vs a certain champ. And there are no guides for that.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
July 12 2011 04:01 GMT
#21
An all-purpose set of tier 1 runes is cheap and will last you a long time. No need to go runeless 'till 20.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
July 13 2011 19:31 GMT
#22
On July 12 2011 06:29 broz0rs wrote:
the funny thing about loco's post is that it won't make any sense if you're new to the game, but if you play for more than 2 months and know the scene.. rofl

What's the best way to get in touch with said scene? There's so many LoL communities available (it seems) that I'm barely able to distinguish which are legit and which aren't.
currently rooting for myself.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 13 2011 19:50 GMT
#23
On July 14 2011 04:31 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 06:29 broz0rs wrote:
the funny thing about loco's post is that it won't make any sense if you're new to the game, but if you play for more than 2 months and know the scene.. rofl

What's the best way to get in touch with said scene? There's so many LoL communities available (it seems) that I'm barely able to distinguish which are legit and which aren't.

clgaming.net/livestreams

BEWARE:
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
July 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#24
On July 14 2011 04:50 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 04:31 Shiv. wrote:
On July 12 2011 06:29 broz0rs wrote:
the funny thing about loco's post is that it won't make any sense if you're new to the game, but if you play for more than 2 months and know the scene.. rofl

What's the best way to get in touch with said scene? There's so many LoL communities available (it seems) that I'm barely able to distinguish which are legit and which aren't.

clgaming.net/livestreams

BEWARE:

Thank you very much sir.
currently rooting for myself.
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 13 2011 20:40 GMT
#25
DO NOT BUY A CHAMPION YOU HAVEN'T TRIED YET

If you can't wait for the champion to get free, ask a friend who has him if you can get on his account.

On July 12 2011 13:01 Craton wrote:
An all-purpose set of tier 1 runes is cheap and will last you a long time. No need to go runeless 'till 20.


^

yep.

Then when you hit 30 you can combine the runes, meaning you actually spent no IP getting those tier 1 runes in the first place.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 13 2011 21:50 GMT
#26
On July 14 2011 05:40 APurpleCow wrote:
Then when you hit 30 you can combine the runes, meaning you actually spent no IP getting those tier 1 runes in the first place.

Assuming you don't get some weird useless stuff like flat mana reds.

Though there's also the chance of getting lucky and getting an HP quint or something out of your combines (in which case you gained IP from your combining).
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Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
July 13 2011 23:07 GMT
#27
Most important things:

1. Never miss last hits. Ever. Beat yourself up when you miss last hits. Because you shouldn't.

2. Always buy wards.

3. Duo with L at erry opportunity. He will never, ever fail you in any way, shape, or form.

4. Most important chat command: /mute all
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
July 13 2011 23:49 GMT
#28
On July 14 2011 06:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 05:40 APurpleCow wrote:
Then when you hit 30 you can combine the runes, meaning you actually spent no IP getting those tier 1 runes in the first place.

Assuming you don't get some weird useless stuff like flat mana reds.

Though there's also the chance of getting lucky and getting an HP quint or something out of your combines (in which case you gained IP from your combining).


I thought I saw some math saying it was cheaper to combine tier 1 runes than to buy tier 3 runes, assuming you didn't already have 9x of any tier 3 runes.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 00:00:19
July 13 2011 23:58 GMT
#29
My advice would be to try all the free champs, the best way to learn the game is to play all the champions so you know what you are up against. Save your IP until level 20, that's when you can buy and use level 30 runes. Buy 1 rune page for both AD and AP characters to begin with.
+ Show Spoiler [More on runes] +
IMO the best runes to begin with that works the best on the most AP characters are Magic Penetration marks, Mana regen per level seals(Don't use these on characters where you won't have mana problems or dont use mana at all, use armor seals instead then), ability power per level or magic resist per level glyphs (i use magic resist on 99% of the characters i play, really useful) and either magic penetration or flat ability power quints.

For AD you should go with Armor Penetration marks, Mana Regen per level, Attack Speed or Armor seals (depends on what character(s) you'll be playing), Magic Resist per level or Attack speed glyphs and Armor Penetration quints.


Don't spend your IP on champions unless you are 100% sure you want the champion and will enjoy it. LoL is a pretty fun game so as long as you keep playing it you are bound to learn things along the way. Check for featured/pro builds on www.solomid.net if you aren't sure how to play a certain champion, but don't follow all guides 100% as they aren't all completely correct at all times.

The really necessary things to learn is to last hit minions (never just right click a full health minion and hope to get the gold for it) and all the game mechanics like how Armor and Magic resist affects different types of damage etc

EDIT: Also, if you have questions about any game mechanic go to www.leagueoflegends.wikia.com
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 14 2011 00:11 GMT
#30
On July 14 2011 08:49 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 06:50 TheYango wrote:
On July 14 2011 05:40 APurpleCow wrote:
Then when you hit 30 you can combine the runes, meaning you actually spent no IP getting those tier 1 runes in the first place.

Assuming you don't get some weird useless stuff like flat mana reds.

Though there's also the chance of getting lucky and getting an HP quint or something out of your combines (in which case you gained IP from your combining).


I thought I saw some math saying it was cheaper to combine tier 1 runes than to buy tier 3 runes, assuming you didn't already have 9x of any tier 3 runes.

It is cheaper, but whether it's "worth it" depends on how many rune types you consider useful. It's also very much up to luck.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 14 2011 16:02 GMT
#31
15 IP per Level 1 Rune (Using cheapest price since it doesn't matter what you combine)
5 Runes needed to upgrade to next Level

Total Cost of Tier 1 -> 3 Conversion: 15 IP * 5 * 5 = 375 IP or 25 Tier 1 Runes

Tier 3 Rune Prices
Quint - 515, 1025, or 2050 each
Rune - 205, 410, or 820 each

Disclaimer:
Not all T3 Runes are useful and by combining there is a possibility of "losing IP" because if you get a 205 IP T3 Rune it cost you 375 IP. Ideally you are pro and gamble 3x T3 HP Quints or something like that.

Conclusion: Fill your rune pages with T1 wait for 20 and get T3. When you get to 20 don't autopilot and buy runes think about it because some runes like Crit% are really champion specific.
FADC
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 14 2011 16:27 GMT
#32
On July 15 2011 01:02 rwrzr wrote:
Total Cost of Tier 1 -> 3 Conversion: 15 IP * 5 * 5 = 375 IP or 25 Tier 1 Runes

That's also assuming you're only using 15 IP runes. In practice, you'll probably want your T1 runepages to resemble their T3 counterparts, so a pretty large fraction of your T1 runes will be 30 IP runes.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 14 2011 16:40 GMT
#33
Good point and supports the earlier claim in terms of IP it probably isn't worth gambling for a T3 rune.

HOWEVER when you do get to level 20 you might as well buy 5 more 15 IP runes and gamble your 25 runes for a T3 because you might end up with a useful Quint or Rune. (I had 4 T3 HP Quints because of this :[ )
FADC
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 14 2011 17:36 GMT
#34
Big luck factor involved. I don't really advise the gambling to get a rune you might need. :/
Just wait until 20 and you can buy all T3 runes.

On July 15 2011 01:40 rwrzr wrote:
(I had 4 T3 HP Quints because of this :[ )


So you're telling me you have FOUR HP Quints and still manage to give FB???
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 18 2011 15:45 GMT
#35
silly badpaladin iirc we played an inhouse and my ashe (LOL) > your akali

HP Quints OP?

Back on topic though:

I don't think watching streams right away is necessarily a good way to learn the game :S
I only say this because most people take away 2 things:
1) XYZ Champion is OP
2) XYZ Streamer is Cool/Bad/Douche/Chill/etc etc
FADC
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