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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
May 21 2011 00:36 GMT
#81
I actually pardoned someone :O

But of my 6 cases so far, 5 were clear punishes.
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Asdkmoga
Profile Joined May 2010
United States496 Posts
May 21 2011 00:56 GMT
#82
so i skipped 2 votes thinking that the Offensive behavior was questionable if it deserved actual punishment, and i can only do 3 in 24 hours? i thought skip just let you do another case ezpz no punishment
"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action and over 600 is clearly the work of an ancient Sumerian demon or some shit."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 21 2011 00:58 GMT
#83
On May 21 2011 09:56 Asdkmoga wrote:
so i skipped 2 votes thinking that the Offensive behavior was questionable if it deserved actual punishment, and i can only do 3 in 24 hours? i thought skip just let you do another case ezpz no punishment


Same thing happened to me. I think it's a bug with the system atm. ;/
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 01:12:56
May 21 2011 01:12 GMT
#84
I'll clear up some information for you guys.

  • Skips are currently disabled. This is because Riot does not want people just skipping until they get an "e-celebrity" and then clicking punish.
  • There are bugs currently in the system where cases with certain ID number combinations will cause them not to appear properly. This is being looked into.
  • You will not get IP until the case is fully resolved. This means all votes are cast, and a decision is made. If you are with the majority, IP will then be credited to you through an automated system. You should get an e-mail notification (although the notification can be turned off I believe).
  • Riot staff will still review cases and the decisions made on these cases. The Tribunal will not assign bans, etc. Bans will still be done manually by Riot Staff.
  • You will eventually get access to more than 3 cases per day. The Tribunal is still in testing.
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ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
May 21 2011 01:52 GMT
#85
So much intentional feeding, all 3 of my cases were clearly intentional feeding.
One dude went the whole game without a single minion kill, and died 7 times.
WHY.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 21 2011 02:16 GMT
#86
yea i pardoned one guy, he did pretty well as twitch and there was a gangplank that was clearly provoking him, he didnt say anything racist or really that bad, just the usual "you suck, etc" but he was clearly trying to win.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 02:28:06
May 21 2011 02:27 GMT
#87
Hi,

We're still a little up in the air about exact amount / correct vote (with majority rule). Just to set it in perspective, without giving too much away:

1. If you vote on cases correctly, over time you will gain increased voting abilities.
2. After enough "level ups" to your voting ability, you will have over 10x the voting capacity you have now.
3. Once you reach your max cases and you vote on all of them each day AND vote correctly, you'd be earning somewhere around 1000+ IP / week.

IP awards will be issued on a weekly basis. Next Thursday will be the first IP award email. If you don't see an IP award email the first week...it might just mean that your cases have not been closed yet by Rioterz.

I hope that helps .

Cheers!


So that's 30 cases a day (!), 1000 ip a week, works out to 5 ip per case. Say 7/10 right is a good ratio. If you take a minute and a half per case this is the time per ip equivalent of playing a 40 minute game and getting 94 ip. Takes about 45 hours (!) of doing CS work for riot to get a 6300 ip champ. Costs $7.50 to buy one, assuming you get paid that much an hour at minimum wage it is 0.02 times as efficient to get your stuff through the tribunal as just picking up an extra hour at work.

It's kind of fun in it's own right but at the point you're doing lots of cases a day it's clearly work. If you're just doing it occasionally the ip actually seems to be a disincentive as you get the feeling riot is just throwing change at your feet, kind of robs it of it's charm.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 21 2011 02:41 GMT
#88
On May 21 2011 09:36 Jaksiel wrote:
Yeah, my three cases were also easy punishes. Has anyone found anything worth a pardon yet?

I had one with a guy that was kind of annoying, but not really punishably offensive imo. Generally sour mood, and sometimes BM, but no big red flags like racism or spamming.
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
May 21 2011 02:54 GMT
#89
On May 21 2011 10:12 MoonBear wrote:
I'll clear up some information for you guys.

  • Skips are currently disabled. This is because Riot does not want people just skipping until they get an "e-celebrity" and then clicking punish.


Derp. So instead of making offenders the names anonymous they decide to disable skips. Yeah.... that makes sense.
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
May 21 2011 02:57 GMT
#90
On May 21 2011 11:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
So that's 30 cases a day (!), 1000 ip a week, works out to 5 ip per case. Say 7/10 right is a good ratio.


I'd argue that if you were in on it purely for the IP you could punish every single case without reading and still come out fairly accurate.

Because of the nature of how reporting a person typically implies they did something wrong, a majority of cases are going to be punishes.

UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 03:06:03
May 21 2011 03:05 GMT
#91
more in depth

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=762986

PS: anonymizing names would be bad because then you could call someone you intended to report grackis.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 21 2011 03:18 GMT
#92
I wonder if we're seeing all the reports in the 10-12 cases we're able to view from one person.
If we are, 11 cases of reporting doesn't seem like enough to warrant punishment.

I would hope it's more like hundreds of reports like was mentioned by a Red a while ago...
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 21 2011 03:26 GMT
#93
On May 21 2011 11:54 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 10:12 MoonBear wrote:
I'll clear up some information for you guys.

  • Skips are currently disabled. This is because Riot does not want people just skipping until they get an "e-celebrity" and then clicking punish.


Derp. So instead of making offenders the names anonymous they decide to disable skips. Yeah.... that makes sense.

Basically what UniveralSnip wrote.

Making names anonymous would also involve making everything in the Tribunal Case anonymous including the chat. This would cause problems if someone has a name like "Dragon". A basic filter would remove all instances of "Dragon" and then you have mutilated chat, and you could still probably figure out what the name is.

It would be rather amusing to see players punish themselves due to not realising the case is about themselves though.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 21 2011 03:32 GMT
#94
I'm sure their programmers can come up with something more sophisticated than a filter like that, it honestly wouldn't be hard to program at all
:)
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 21 2011 03:42 GMT
#95
On May 21 2011 12:32 unichan wrote:
I'm sure their programmers can come up with something more sophisticated than a filter like that, it honestly wouldn't be hard to program at all

Engineer time spent on things like this is less engineer time spent on issues such as server stability, a rewrite of the PvP Client Platform, Replays and Observer Mode, etc. It's not a trade off I think Riot is prepared to make.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 03:47:42
May 21 2011 03:42 GMT
#96
You just change their ingame names to their champion name..................................and report name will be for their champion name.

edit: if normal game chat for enemy is red, chat for ally is green. So if you're ashe, and the other team has ashe, the accused name is in green, other ashe is in red. simple zzz
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 03:50:06
May 21 2011 03:47 GMT
#97
On May 21 2011 12:42 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 12:32 unichan wrote:
I'm sure their programmers can come up with something more sophisticated than a filter like that, it honestly wouldn't be hard to program at all

Engineer time spent on things like this is less engineer time spent on issues such as server stability, a rewrite of the PvP Client Platform, Replays and Observer Mode, etc. It's not a trade off I think Riot is prepared to make.


What Replays? What Obs mode? You mean those things that as real as the pot of gold at the end of rainbow? Call me jaded, but I would much rather take a fully functioning as intended tribunal over more promises of obs/replay/magma chamber.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 21 2011 03:51 GMT
#98
On May 21 2011 12:47 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 12:42 MoonBear wrote:
On May 21 2011 12:32 unichan wrote:
I'm sure their programmers can come up with something more sophisticated than a filter like that, it honestly wouldn't be hard to program at all

Engineer time spent on things like this is less engineer time spent on issues such as server stability, a rewrite of the PvP Client Platform, Replays and Observer Mode, etc. It's not a trade off I think Riot is prepared to make.


What Replays? What Obs mode? You mean those things that as real as the pot of gold at the end of rainbow? Call me jaded, but I would given the fact a fully functioning as intended tribunal over more promises of obs/replay/magma chamber.

They are being worked on, I assure you. My understanding is that they will probably be available by Dreamhack. But don't quote me on this. There's a lot of technical problems involved, particularly due to how the PvP Client handles data in order to make the game hack-proof.
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
May 21 2011 04:16 GMT
#99
On May 21 2011 12:51 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 12:47 BloodNinja wrote:
On May 21 2011 12:42 MoonBear wrote:
On May 21 2011 12:32 unichan wrote:
I'm sure their programmers can come up with something more sophisticated than a filter like that, it honestly wouldn't be hard to program at all

Engineer time spent on things like this is less engineer time spent on issues such as server stability, a rewrite of the PvP Client Platform, Replays and Observer Mode, etc. It's not a trade off I think Riot is prepared to make.


What Replays? What Obs mode? You mean those things that as real as the pot of gold at the end of rainbow? Call me jaded, but I would given the fact a fully functioning as intended tribunal over more promises of obs/replay/magma chamber.

They are being worked on, I assure you. My understanding is that they will probably be available by Dreamhack. But don't quote me on this. There's a lot of technical problems involved, particularly due to how the PvP Client handles data in order to make the game hack-proof.


Like I said, call me jaded, but these are the same promises we have seen for months (years?) now.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 06:34:58
May 21 2011 06:33 GMT
#100
On May 21 2011 12:42 BlackPaladin wrote:
You just change their ingame names to their champion name..................................and report name will be for their champion name.

edit: if normal game chat for enemy is red, chat for ally is green. So if you're ashe, and the other team has ashe, the accused name is in green, other ashe is in red. simple zzz

That's not the problem. The problem is that in-game people might not refer to you by champion name or full summoner name (e.g. they'd call you BP or some other similar abbreviation for BlackPaladin). It's hard to write a filter that can catch all possible abbreviations and misspellings without also butchering the chat, particularly if your name contains common words. And if they don't do that, it's pointless, cuz you'll still realize it's Hotshot when someone calls him "Hotshot" or "HSGG" in chat.
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