• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:37
CEST 19:37
KST 02:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025)11Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, GuMiho, Classic, Cure6Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho4Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure5[ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals7
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results172025 GSL Season 2 (Qualifiers)14Code S Season 1 - Classic & GuMiho advance to RO4 (2025)4[BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET7
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho Replay cast herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025) Power Rank: October 2018
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series DreamHack Dallas 2025 announced (May 23-25) [GSL 2025] Code S Season 1 - RO4 and Grand Finals PIG STY FESTIVAL 6.0! (28 Apr - 4 May) Monday Nights Weeklies
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed
Brood War
General
Where is effort ? who is JiriKara /Cipisek/ from CZ BW General Discussion ASL 19 Tickets for foreigners BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread [ASL19] Semifinal A [USBL Spring 2025] Groups cast
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games? Grand Theft Auto VI Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Narcissists In Gaming: Why T…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7381 users

[Guide] Steps to becoming a Master LoL player. - Page 2

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 15 2011 23:25 GMT
#21
On February 16 2011 03:26 Mogwai wrote:
Blaming Chrispy for your mistakes will get you better faster IMO.

Pretty sure I'm to blame for all mistakes.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 15 2011 23:31 GMT
#22
On February 16 2011 08:25 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 03:26 Mogwai wrote:
Blaming Chrispy for your mistakes will get you better faster IMO.

Pretty sure I'm to blame for all mistakes.


Agreed.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
February 15 2011 23:57 GMT
#23
Well that's actually true.

Like seriously who dies 3 times to Leblanc as Nidalee? LOL.
Retvrn to Forvms
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 15 2011 23:57 GMT
#24
On February 16 2011 08:57 Chrispy wrote:
Well that's actually true.

Like seriously who dies 3 times to Leblanc as Nidalee? LOL.

Burst + ignite only matchup nid can lose to.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 16 2011 00:08 GMT
#25
On February 16 2011 02:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.

Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.


u dumb, he explained a shit ton

what, do you think everyone who's in the top 500 got these tips laid out for them when they got there? no, we grinded it out and learned everything through practice. you can't teach someone experience.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
February 16 2011 00:17 GMT
#26
On February 16 2011 09:08 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 02:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.

Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.


u dumb, he explained a shit ton

what, do you think everyone who's in the top 500 got these tips laid out for them when they got there? no, we grinded it out and learned everything through practice. you can't teach someone experience.


Sooooo the point of this thread is grind out games and learn through experience. Maybe you should make another [Learning Shit] thread with that information and then tell everyone to get on your level.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 00:31:40
February 16 2011 00:31 GMT
#27
On February 16 2011 09:17 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 09:08 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On February 16 2011 02:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.

Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.


u dumb, he explained a shit ton

what, do you think everyone who's in the top 500 got these tips laid out for them when they got there? no, we grinded it out and learned everything through practice. you can't teach someone experience.


Sooooo the point of this thread is grind out games and learn through experience. Maybe you should make another [Learning Shit] thread with that information and then tell everyone to get on your level.


No, the point of this thread is to outline some of the areas you should be focusing on when trying to improve yourself as a player.

Of course you're always going to hear "play the game more" in threads like these, as that is how you gain experience. However, just playing lots of games might not be that helpful to you, or might not be the most efficient way to improve, if you're not actually trying to focus on specific aspects of your play.

This thread is about discussing those specific aspects that you should be thinking about and why they separate the best from the rest.

I really shouldn't have to explain this to you, but it seems like you're just trying to find fault with the OP for some reason.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
February 16 2011 00:39 GMT
#28
On February 16 2011 09:31 jtype wrote:
I really shouldn't have to explain this to you, but it seems like you're just trying to find fault with the OP for some reason.


That's a pretty large leap there pal. Especially since Numbers (the OP) and 5hit are two different people and I had no issue with the OP.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
February 16 2011 00:48 GMT
#29
On February 16 2011 09:39 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 09:31 jtype wrote:
I really shouldn't have to explain this to you, but it seems like you're just trying to find fault with the OP for some reason.


That's a pretty large leap there pal. Especially since Numbers (the OP) and 5hit are two different people and I had no issue with the OP.


I meant 'OP' as in 'Original Post', not 'Poster.' You were taking issue with this type of thread.

Maybe bad wording on my part.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
February 16 2011 00:58 GMT
#30
On February 16 2011 09:48 jtype wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 09:39 BloodNinja wrote:
On February 16 2011 09:31 jtype wrote:
I really shouldn't have to explain this to you, but it seems like you're just trying to find fault with the OP for some reason.


That's a pretty large leap there pal. Especially since Numbers (the OP) and 5hit are two different people and I had no issue with the OP.


I meant 'OP' as in 'Original Post', not 'Poster.' You were taking issue with this type of thread.

Maybe bad wording on my part.


Once again that is a huge leap. Trying to link me not liking the way 5hit posted something in one thread and making a sarcastic response is not the same as not liking all threads similar to this one. However, that is not the point of this thread, if you want to continue the discussion of what you believe I do/don't like, feel free to PM me.

Back on topic - I have started to blame Chrispy and my ELO is already up 150 points tonight. #1 tip thanks TL!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 16 2011 01:00 GMT
#31
Ugh I hate it when I post on the last page of a thread.
Relevant question on last page....animation canceling?
Anyone?
Bueller?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
February 16 2011 01:31 GMT
#32
animation canceling is more for carries. If you're soloing mid, you want to hit a creep and then move as fast as possible after the animation is done. This makes you less vulnerable to harass and especially skillshots. There are many more uses for this, especially on champions with lower attack speed like alistar. If you have sheen, you can stun, move hit, headbutt, move hit. This cancels the time where you're spent doing nothing and just standing. In teamfights, likewise with carry. You want to attack, and move to get better mobility or kite to keep enemy champions off of you.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#33
On February 16 2011 10:31 0123456789 wrote:
animation canceling is more for carries. If you're soloing mid, you want to hit a creep and then move as fast as possible after the animation is done. This makes you less vulnerable to harass and especially skillshots. There are many more uses for this, especially on champions with lower attack speed like alistar. If you have sheen, you can stun, move hit, headbutt, move hit. This cancels the time where you're spent doing nothing and just standing. In teamfights, likewise with carry. You want to attack, and move to get better mobility or kite to keep enemy champions off of you.


More important for kiting.

Just think trying to chase someone with Ashe and her Frost Arrow.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 16 2011 01:40 GMT
#34
Ok but isn't that just stutterstep? (ie marine?)
I guess Alistar is a better example of what I was asking but it's essentially just not standing and idly autoattacking.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 16 2011 11:22 GMT
#35
On February 16 2011 09:17 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2011 09:08 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On February 16 2011 02:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.

Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.


u dumb, he explained a shit ton

what, do you think everyone who's in the top 500 got these tips laid out for them when they got there? no, we grinded it out and learned everything through practice. you can't teach someone experience.


Sooooo the point of this thread is grind out games and learn through experience. Maybe you should make another [Learning Shit] thread with that information and then tell everyone to get on your level.

Well, you asked, so here's what I've been writing in the LoL general forums for the past 2 months:
[Learn Shit] Why I'm 1800+ and how to get here
[Rant] 5HIT on scrubs
[More 5HIT] From us to you
[Real 5HIT] The Luck Factor
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 16 2011 11:42 GMT
#36
On February 16 2011 03:53 Mogwai wrote:
trynd can only make mistakes vs. Morde. Morde R + Ignite es most damage, even kill Trynd R. also shield es #1, so strong, always kill, never die, es #1, jajajaja.


lolol i had a game as trynda vs morde top solo, I firstblooded him at lvl 3 then at lvl 5 I dived and killed him, from the kill I levelup'd, got ult and escaped. i was sooooooooooooo proooooooud
And all is illuminated.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 17 2011 04:47 GMT
#37
So I think I've got soloing mid down pretty nicely (obviously I'm not a pro) I understand harassment/last hitting balance and when to push a lane and when not to.
Now in my quest to learn how to carry I must know: what do you do when you are winning your lane but bottom and/or top are losing theirs?
How do you know when to help/gank without losing too much of your turret?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 17 2011 05:19 GMT
#38
It depends what kind of champ you're playing. If you're playing a farm-dependent champ, farm. If you're playing a kill-dependent champ like panth or vlad, have your jungler cover your lane (or time it when the other guy bluepills too) and try to gank. Sometimes you being away from your lane will make them pull back, but it's always situational.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 17 2011 08:29 GMT
#39
Yeah I've been trying to take the zen approach to playing lately...mostly following the self-deprecating method of 'if you're losing, it's cause you're bad.'
There are still so many places where I lose and I don't know how else I could have helped, my previous question being one of them.

For example: I'm 2 and 0 or something like that on Caitlynn. Mid turret is at 1/3 health. Top lane is slowly going down but my laning opponent is still there. Seems to me what I should be doing is farming as Caitlynn falls off heavily lategame if not properly farmed, and does not have a strong gank at all since she can't chase well. One game I tried this, but once top turret went down I lost my ability to farm as the enemy team from top lane/jungler came mid to push.

I dunno I guess there is no one strategy that would work in all situations, but I'm trying to really improve my game sense in solo games when my communication with the other team is subpar. This is one area I definitely need to work on.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 09:11:35
February 17 2011 09:11 GMT
#40
On February 17 2011 14:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It depends what kind of champ you're playing. If you're playing a farm-dependent champ, farm. If you're playing a kill-dependent champ like panth or vlad-

How do you make the distinction between farm- and kill-dependent champs? Is the end result of both not simply, 'more gold'?
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 23m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 843
Livibee 82
MindelVK 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 2750
Bisu 2631
Jaedong 1819
Soulkey 476
Snow 453
firebathero 288
Dewaltoss 153
Rush 140
JYJ73
sorry 41
[ Show more ]
Terrorterran 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Backho 8
Shine 4
Dota 2
Gorgc9918
qojqva2321
Dendi1103
Counter-Strike
fl0m3690
Stewie2K616
ceh9536
Foxcn464
flusha201
Other Games
FrodaN1352
hiko957
Beastyqt835
Mlord499
Lowko324
crisheroes209
ArmadaUGS160
Trikslyr88
QueenE51
febbydoto11
Organizations
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv131
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 79
• LUISG 25
• Adnapsc2 14
• OhrlRock 1
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV441
League of Legends
• Nemesis4690
• Jankos1404
• TFBlade716
Other Games
• imaqtpie873
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
6h 23m
The PondCast
16h 23m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Road to EWC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Road to EWC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
BeSt vs Soulkey
Road to EWC
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-16
2025 GSL S1
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Heroes 10 EU
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

Rose Open S1
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.