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Steps on becoming a better player from a first timer's perspective.
Step #1 Mechanics-Before you learn anything in this game, you need to learn the basic mechanics, and the even more complex mechanics. This includes being able to do all the more complex actions in this game with a decently high apm. Learning in the first step include last hitting almost perfectly, being able to cast spells at the right time for maximum effect, having good reactions to situations, being able to move champion very freely, etc. Animation canceling is included in this section. Once you pass this stage, you can move on to the next step.
Step #2 Game Awareness-Game awareness includes knowing all the ins and outs of the game. Other than knowing the basic order of objectives in this game like what objective is more important than another objective at different stages of the game, etc. the standard crap you see every1 do, you need to know the more general and specific things about game awareness. For example, things like oh, enemy team has a pantheon, let's not be way far from our tower, get ganked, and then blame teammates or just be like oops. People have a hard time having awareness vs stealth, like if you move out of tower range vs eve, you are vulnerable. Even more vulnerable without summoners. Etc, etc. This step also includes other things like lane awareness, knowing how to play your lanes vs specific matchups, and awareness like positioning, jungle awareness, knowing how to play roles, knowing how to play teamfights, etc. If you have great Game Awareness, it should be really hard for you to do bad in a game because you are just aware of everything.
Step #3 Concentration-Concentration defines your personal skill in this game. It's like awareness in RTS games. Concentration includes how well you can concentrate on the main screen, the minimap, the timer, your summoners, your gold, the tab screen, etc. (yeah there's more) Concentration is all about how well you can concentrate between all the elements in the game while performing the actions on your main screen at a high level. Examples of great concentration, would be you having the mechanical skills of a great player, which is not that hard, while knowing the position of every champion in the minimap at all times, knowing the exact moment they were missing, knowing exactly meaning precisely when all the important jungle minions spawn because you looked at the timer and recorded in your heard their next spawns, things like what items enemy team bought exactly as they appear on the minimap after they bought items, etc. (yeah there's more) How gud your mind apm bro.
Step #4 Specialization and Timings-This step includes knowing specific timers on different aspects of gameplay and your gameplay. At this point, the game becomes a science, because you know timings on everything. Builds, specific builds for specific situations, enemy build timings, ally build timings, champion dominance timings, specific jungle timings, knowing exact strengths and disadvantages of certain comps, etc.
Step #5 Mastery-At this stage, you play the game at a perfect or almost perfect level. Everything stated above you know like the palm of your hands. You have absolutely nothing else to learn, and you know or can abuse even the most minute things like I have 2 more creeps than the other person in lane, that bought me an extra hp pot, I win lane, or I know how much gold regular gold per second gives and how much the mastery gives, and how much they have just on that by the 2:00, 2:30, 3:00 mark, etc. Then I counted what kind of creeps they killed so I know how much gold they have exactly, etc. These are just generalizations. But yeah, a master knows everything.
Note, everything up to step 3 is probably done really well by top players. I'm learning the steps.
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Step #6 Troll - At this stage of the game, you're already 2K elo, so why the fuck not ban teemo and mordekaiser and 1st pick Mundo?
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Protip to #3: get enough sleep. (I don't do this.)
goddam it numbers PM me your smurf name
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I have skipped step 1 and went directly to steps 2 and 3. What do?
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With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.
Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.
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On February 16 2011 02:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.
Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.
I'll update this guide later
On February 16 2011 02:03 Juicyfruit wrote:
I have skipped step 1 and went directly to steps 2 and 3. What do?
To become a better player, learn step 1. Learn better mechanics and you will get better.
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Don't be rude I never complain about elo Hell tbhtbh 
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Here's my guide: Fix your mistakes don't blame your team for them.
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Blaming Chrispy for your mistakes will get you better faster IMO.
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On February 16 2011 03:19 mrgerry wrote:
Here's my guide: Fix your mistakes don't blame your team for them.
But I am a lol god! It must be teemos fault im 0-12!
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play tryndamere so you can't make mistakes hueuhuehue press R and spins from everything es #1
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trynd can only make mistakes vs. Morde. Morde R + Ignite es most damage, even kill Trynd R. also shield es #1, so strong, always kill, never die, es #1, jajajaja.
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On a more serious note to all this troll going on in my thread, I'll update top 10 TL and this thread after I come back from school.
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I am disappointed that there isn't 9 points in this thread.
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1. have a good team comp (OP champs FTW)
2. know how to last-hit minions, know buy wards + map awareness
3. have a good jungler (map&dragon control, ganks)
4. dont be retarded (facecheck, dumb tower dives, 1v2 2v3 3v4 fights...etc)
5. only team fight when ur team position is good
6. just play alot, you cant be a master of LoL just by reading guides, watching stream or tutorial stuff rolf...
LoL is super ez, have fun
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Chrispy never makes mistakes. He is truly... a Master of LoL.
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On February 16 2011 07:14 Chrispy wrote:
Chrispy never makes mistakes. He is truly... a Master of LoL.
nice job insulting yourself
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On February 16 2011 07:10 emucxg wrote:
1. have a good team comp (OP champs FTW)
2. know how to last-hit minions, know buy wards + map awareness
3. have a good jungler (map&dragon control, ganks)
4. dont be retarded (facecheck, dumb tower dives, 1v2 2v3 3v4 fights...etc)
5. only team fight when ur team position is good
6. just play alot, you cant be a master of LoL just by reading guides, watching stream or tutorial stuff rolf...
LoL is super ez, have fun
That might make you decent, maybe good, but not a master. That's the chobo stuff.
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On February 16 2011 07:29 0123456789 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 07:10 emucxg wrote:
1. have a good team comp (OP champs FTW)
2. know how to last-hit minions, know buy wards + map awareness
3. have a good jungler (map&dragon control, ganks)
4. dont be retarded (facecheck, dumb tower dives, 1v2 2v3 3v4 fights...etc)
5. only team fight when ur team position is good
6. just play alot, you cant be a master of LoL just by reading guides, watching stream or tutorial stuff rolf...
LoL is super ez, have fun That might make you decent, maybe good, but not a master. That's the chobo stuff.
yeah, but when you are "decent" enough, you cant really improve anymore except by playing more games. also have few nice friends discussing with you after games is always nice.
ps. not saying ur post is not true though
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I sort of get the point of this thread, but it still seems too vague and personalized to be useful.
In any case a few things struck as me things I must learn about, therefore just to bring one up:
Animation canceling: I know what it is, and how to do it, yet I don't understand when it should be used or even why, or on which champions.
Anyone care to elaborate?
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On February 16 2011 03:26 Mogwai wrote:
Blaming Chrispy for your mistakes will get you better faster IMO.
Pretty sure I'm to blame for all mistakes.
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On February 16 2011 08:25 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 03:26 Mogwai wrote:
Blaming Chrispy for your mistakes will get you better faster IMO. Pretty sure I'm to blame for all mistakes.
Agreed.
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Well that's actually true.
Like seriously who dies 3 times to Leblanc as Nidalee? LOL.
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On February 16 2011 08:57 Chrispy wrote:
Well that's actually true.
Like seriously who dies 3 times to Leblanc as Nidalee? LOL.
Burst + ignite only matchup nid can lose to.
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On February 16 2011 02:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.
Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.
u dumb, he explained a shit ton
what, do you think everyone who's in the top 500 got these tips laid out for them when they got there? no, we grinded it out and learned everything through practice. you can't teach someone experience.
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On February 16 2011 09:08 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 02:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.
Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.
u dumb, he explained a shit ton what, do you think everyone who's in the top 500 got these tips laid out for them when they got there? no, we grinded it out and learned everything through practice. you can't teach someone experience.
Sooooo the point of this thread is grind out games and learn through experience. Maybe you should make another [Learning Shit] thread with that information and then tell everyone to get on your level.
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On February 16 2011 09:17 BloodNinja wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 09:08 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 16 2011 02:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.
Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.
u dumb, he explained a shit ton what, do you think everyone who's in the top 500 got these tips laid out for them when they got there? no, we grinded it out and learned everything through practice. you can't teach someone experience. Sooooo the point of this thread is grind out games and learn through experience. Maybe you should make another [Learning Shit] thread with that information and then tell everyone to get on your level.
No, the point of this thread is to outline some of the areas you should be focusing on when trying to improve yourself as a player.
Of course you're always going to hear "play the game more" in threads like these, as that is how you gain experience. However, just playing lots of games might not be that helpful to you, or might not be the most efficient way to improve, if you're not actually trying to focus on specific aspects of your play.
This thread is about discussing those specific aspects that you should be thinking about and why they separate the best from the rest.
I really shouldn't have to explain this to you, but it seems like you're just trying to find fault with the OP for some reason.
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On February 16 2011 09:31 jtype wrote:
I really shouldn't have to explain this to you, but it seems like you're just trying to find fault with the OP for some reason.
That's a pretty large leap there pal. Especially since Numbers (the OP) and 5hit are two different people and I had no issue with the OP.
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On February 16 2011 09:39 BloodNinja wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 09:31 jtype wrote:
I really shouldn't have to explain this to you, but it seems like you're just trying to find fault with the OP for some reason. That's a pretty large leap there pal. Especially since Numbers (the OP) and 5hit are two different people and I had no issue with the OP.
I meant 'OP' as in 'Original Post', not 'Poster.' You were taking issue with this type of thread.
Maybe bad wording on my part.
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On February 16 2011 09:48 jtype wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 09:39 BloodNinja wrote:On February 16 2011 09:31 jtype wrote:
I really shouldn't have to explain this to you, but it seems like you're just trying to find fault with the OP for some reason. That's a pretty large leap there pal. Especially since Numbers (the OP) and 5hit are two different people and I had no issue with the OP. I meant 'OP' as in 'Original Post', not 'Poster.' You were taking issue with this type of thread. Maybe bad wording on my part.
Once again that is a huge leap. Trying to link me not liking the way 5hit posted something in one thread and making a sarcastic response is not the same as not liking all threads similar to this one. However, that is not the point of this thread, if you want to continue the discussion of what you believe I do/don't like, feel free to PM me.
Back on topic - I have started to blame Chrispy and my ELO is already up 150 points tonight. #1 tip thanks TL!
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Ugh I hate it when I post on the last page of a thread.
Relevant question on last page....animation canceling?
Anyone?
Bueller?
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animation canceling is more for carries. If you're soloing mid, you want to hit a creep and then move as fast as possible after the animation is done. This makes you less vulnerable to harass and especially skillshots. There are many more uses for this, especially on champions with lower attack speed like alistar. If you have sheen, you can stun, move hit, headbutt, move hit. This cancels the time where you're spent doing nothing and just standing. In teamfights, likewise with carry. You want to attack, and move to get better mobility or kite to keep enemy champions off of you.
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On February 16 2011 10:31 0123456789 wrote:
animation canceling is more for carries. If you're soloing mid, you want to hit a creep and then move as fast as possible after the animation is done. This makes you less vulnerable to harass and especially skillshots. There are many more uses for this, especially on champions with lower attack speed like alistar. If you have sheen, you can stun, move hit, headbutt, move hit. This cancels the time where you're spent doing nothing and just standing. In teamfights, likewise with carry. You want to attack, and move to get better mobility or kite to keep enemy champions off of you.
More important for kiting.
Just think trying to chase someone with Ashe and her Frost Arrow.
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Ok but isn't that just stutterstep? (ie marine?)
I guess Alistar is a better example of what I was asking but it's essentially just not standing and idly autoattacking.
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On February 16 2011 09:17 BloodNinja wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2011 09:08 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 16 2011 02:06 BouBou.865 wrote:
With your steps being super vague and without explanation, you might as well have said "pwn dem n00bs" and be done with it. No tips on positioning and 'mechanics'? Mechanics are almost as vague as 'meta-game'.
Saying how to be a better player is a long, long way from allowing people to become better players, especially in a game with as little info available like LoL.
u dumb, he explained a shit ton what, do you think everyone who's in the top 500 got these tips laid out for them when they got there? no, we grinded it out and learned everything through practice. you can't teach someone experience. Sooooo the point of this thread is grind out games and learn through experience. Maybe you should make another [Learning Shit] thread with that information and then tell everyone to get on your level.
Well, you asked, so here's what I've been writing in the LoL general forums for the past 2 months:
[Learn Shit] Why I'm 1800+ and how to get here
[Rant] 5HIT on scrubs
[More 5HIT] From us to you
[Real 5HIT] The Luck Factor
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On February 16 2011 03:53 Mogwai wrote:
trynd can only make mistakes vs. Morde. Morde R + Ignite es most damage, even kill Trynd R. also shield es #1, so strong, always kill, never die, es #1, jajajaja.
lolol i had a game as trynda vs morde top solo, I firstblooded him at lvl 3 then at lvl 5 I dived and killed him, from the kill I levelup'd, got ult and escaped. i was sooooooooooooo proooooooud
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So I think I've got soloing mid down pretty nicely (obviously I'm not a pro) I understand harassment/last hitting balance and when to push a lane and when not to.
Now in my quest to learn how to carry I must know: what do you do when you are winning your lane but bottom and/or top are losing theirs?
How do you know when to help/gank without losing too much of your turret?
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It depends what kind of champ you're playing. If you're playing a farm-dependent champ, farm. If you're playing a kill-dependent champ like panth or vlad, have your jungler cover your lane (or time it when the other guy bluepills too) and try to gank. Sometimes you being away from your lane will make them pull back, but it's always situational.
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Yeah I've been trying to take the zen approach to playing lately...mostly following the self-deprecating method of 'if you're losing, it's cause you're bad.'
There are still so many places where I lose and I don't know how else I could have helped, my previous question being one of them.
For example: I'm 2 and 0 or something like that on Caitlynn. Mid turret is at 1/3 health. Top lane is slowly going down but my laning opponent is still there. Seems to me what I should be doing is farming as Caitlynn falls off heavily lategame if not properly farmed, and does not have a strong gank at all since she can't chase well. One game I tried this, but once top turret went down I lost my ability to farm as the enemy team from top lane/jungler came mid to push.
I dunno I guess there is no one strategy that would work in all situations, but I'm trying to really improve my game sense in solo games when my communication with the other team is subpar. This is one area I definitely need to work on.
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On February 17 2011 14:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It depends what kind of champ you're playing. If you're playing a farm-dependent champ, farm. If you're playing a kill-dependent champ like panth or vlad-
How do you make the distinction between farm- and kill-dependent champs? Is the end result of both not simply, 'more gold'?
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On February 17 2011 18:11 Odds wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 14:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It depends what kind of champ you're playing. If you're playing a farm-dependent champ, farm. If you're playing a kill-dependent champ like panth or vlad- How do you make the distinction between farm- and kill-dependent champs? Is the end result of both not simply, 'more gold'?
All champions need gold obviously but the distinction is the champion's kit. Do you have the ability to insta-gib an enemy champion if you do your full combo once or twice. Champions like Panth, LeBlanc, etc are notoriously bad at farming but they manage to keep up with easy kills, especially at level 6+.
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On February 17 2011 18:19 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 18:11 Odds wrote:On February 17 2011 14:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It depends what kind of champ you're playing. If you're playing a farm-dependent champ, farm. If you're playing a kill-dependent champ like panth or vlad- How do you make the distinction between farm- and kill-dependent champs? Is the end result of both not simply, 'more gold'? All champions need gold obviously but the distinction is the champion's kit. Do you have the ability to insta-gib an enemy champion if you do your full combo once or twice. Champions like Panth, LeBlanc, etc are notoriously bad at farming but they manage to keep up with easy kills, especially at level 6+.
I'd say the difference is based on a champion's period of effectiveness.
The best example I'd give is Shaco. You are kill-dependent in the sense that by killing the opposing team you limit their farm and you suppress them in a sense. (Their tanks can't get tanky and/or their carries can't get damage/AP) You gank/pressure early to create a strong midgame which hopefully carries into lategame.
A farm-dependent champion is someone like Sivir. If you aren't hitting certain CS by 10,15,20,25 minutes you aren't going to be able to carry. Champion kills/assists are good for boosting you gold per minute. You farm and stay alive to a strong mid game and carry your into late game.
That being said LoL isn't like dota where farming for 40 minutes means you can essentially 1v5 their team. (certain champions can in certain situations)
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On February 17 2011 18:11 Odds wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 14:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It depends what kind of champ you're playing. If you're playing a farm-dependent champ, farm. If you're playing a kill-dependent champ like panth or vlad- How do you make the distinction between farm- and kill-dependent champs? Is the end result of both not simply, 'more gold'?
Someone already addressed this, but basically it's like this: Some champs will do well no matter what happens in a game if they just farm. Examples are like Sivir/Trist/Ashe/Malzahar/Anivia, usually true carries. Some champs, even if they farm all game, will reach a point where they drop off too hard in fights, and need to snowball before that happens by getting a bunch of kills to stay relevant. Examples are Pantheon, Leblanc, Nidalee, Katarina, Akali, Shaco, etc.
Note that some champs can be both depending on what their role is on the team, i.e. top lane Sion is farm-dependent while duo lane Sion is kill-dependent.
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On February 18 2011 06:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 18:11 Odds wrote:On February 17 2011 14:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It depends what kind of champ you're playing. If you're playing a farm-dependent champ, farm. If you're playing a kill-dependent champ like panth or vlad- How do you make the distinction between farm- and kill-dependent champs? Is the end result of both not simply, 'more gold'? Someone already addressed this, but basically it's like this: Some champs will do well no matter what happens in a game if they just farm. Examples are like Sivir/Trist/Ashe/Malzahar/Anivia, usually true carries. Some champs, even if they farm all game, will reach a point where they drop off too hard in fights, and need to snowball before that happens by getting a bunch of kills to stay relevant. Examples are Pantheon, Leblanc, Nidalee, Katarina, Akali, Shaco, etc. Note that some champs can be both depending on what their role is on the team, i.e. top lane Sion is farm-dependent while duo lane Sion is kill-dependent.
You barely play this game anymore bro. When you gonna play again.
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I started a new job at a 24 hour animal hospital and I've been getting my bearing straight after moving back to Hawaii. I'm about to grind some ranked though, I wanna get my gold rank back.
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On February 18 2011 10:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I started a new job at a 24 hour animal hospital and I've been getting my bearing straight after moving back to Hawaii. I'm about to grind some ranked though, I wanna get my gold rank back.
We want your stream back!
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On February 18 2011 10:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I started a new job at a 24 hour animal hospital and I've been getting my bearing straight after moving back to Hawaii. I'm about to grind some ranked though, I wanna get my gold rank back.
<- excited fanboy
:D
Congratz on your new job!
Glad to see you back though :3
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On February 18 2011 06:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 18:11 Odds wrote:On February 17 2011 14:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It depends what kind of champ you're playing. If you're playing a farm-dependent champ, farm. If you're playing a kill-dependent champ like panth or vlad- How do you make the distinction between farm- and kill-dependent champs? Is the end result of both not simply, 'more gold'? Someone already addressed this, but basically it's like this: Some champs will do well no matter what happens in a game if they just farm. Examples are like Sivir/Trist/Ashe/Malzahar/Anivia, usually true carries. Some champs, even if they farm all game, will reach a point where they drop off too hard in fights, and need to snowball before that happens by getting a bunch of kills to stay relevant. Examples are Pantheon, Leblanc, Nidalee, Katarina, Akali, Shaco, etc. Note that some champs can be both depending on what their role is on the team, i.e. top lane Sion is farm-dependent while duo lane Sion is kill-dependent.
The difference is that the latter, "mid-gamers" are assassins with mobility skills and single target burst. The former are ranged, low survivability "carrys".
Assassins are better midgame because they can suprise and chase vulnerable targets.
Assassins don´t get worse because they don´t do enough damage but because lategame carrys won´t be caught isolated. Their mobilityadvantage evaporates when the opposition actually wants to fight, aka Teamfights.
Duolanes are a different issue because you can´t normally farm there or you´d screw over your Lanemate. The only way to be as farmed and leveld as a sololaner is to kill.
The duolane thus should go to champions that don´t rely on farm/levels which are Supports (and their related role Tanks) which rely on synergy with the rest of their team.
You CAN try to make a "you farm, I don´t lasthit at all" deal but you NEED a premade partner for that AND a champion that is relativly farm AND levelindependent.
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Pretty much everyone at my Elo understands that babysitting is a good idea.
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Oh it definetly is. But in context of this topic I wouldn´t do it with a random player that I suspect to be worse than me.
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