• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:18
CET 17:18
KST 01:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview8Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 KSL Week 85 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Hager werken embalming powder+27 81 711 1572
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1304 users

General Discussion/Off-topic - Page 928

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 926 927 928 929 930 1152 Next
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 19:01:30
June 24 2011 19:00 GMT
#18541
What exactly are you personally gaining by messing around in ranked solo instead of normals? Do you just gain some sick pleasure out of actively making the game worse for the people that DO want to actually play serious games in ranked?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 19:06:02
June 24 2011 19:03 GMT
#18542
Man, some people are butthurt.

I fuck around in ranked because I have no distinction between ranked and normal, with the exception that I dick around more in normal so it's less likely that I'll have opponents that outclass random TL pickups and such.

As for dicking around later in "won games" it's because of complacency. This isn't some LoL-constrained phenomenon, and it's not a dbag phenomenon either, it's human nature. You're ahead, you feel comfortable enough to do something off the wall. Sometimes you pay for it. But whatever. The opportunity to have a 6000 gold lead and be able to buy a Gunblade is too tempting sometimes. And it's just one game anyways.

Edit:
Back when we tryharded 5rank I think most of our team also "fucked around" in solo ranked because it was the best way to testrun a concept or hero or whatever. Amazingly, normal games tend to be utterly garbage for actually giving something a good test. This usually means that we're trying some bizarro build or practicing a hero and not playing up to what our elo would suggest. It's also why I mentioned way back a year or so ago that solo queue is a crapshoot because you never know when that "high rated player" is checking something out, even if they're absolutely dead serious.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 24 2011 19:04 GMT
#18543
On June 25 2011 03:48 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 03:45 spinesheath wrote:
On June 25 2011 03:37 Mogwai wrote:
it's a game you fucking tryhards, they're just trying to make a boring roflstomp fun by playing like retards. I don't understand why some people have this bitchy mentality when it comes to players playing a game and having fun with it rather than trying their hardest to make optimal plays all the time.

I'm a good player, I play hard, I play to win, I play tournaments, but LoL is still a game and I still wanna have fun with it. If I'm queueing up with friends and roflstomping, I'm going to do some crazy shit just to have fun and I don't understand why people gonna get all butthurt about pissing away a single game that was probably a ton of fun for everyone involved except the one guy who's still hung up about losing 12 elo.

You know, you could just tryhard in ranked and mess around in normals. Suddenly nobody has a reason to complain about dropping 12 elo.
Some people care about their elo, or at least they want to be informed that you are going to troll BEFORE you throw the game. It's not up to you to decide what other people should care about.

You could just mess around in ranked and tryhard in normals, it's not up to you to decide what other people should care about.

It wasn't me who decided that people care more about ranked elo and (a bit) less about normal games.
If someone is bothered by many other people being bothered by him trolling ranked games then that someone is well advised to change his attitude because changing the attitude of many other people is much harder to do than changing your own.

In other words: The majority is against trolling ranked games and you also are supposed to follow that Summoner's Code thingy which includes a no trolling guideline afaik. Either you follow the majority and the Summoner's Code or you deal with the consequences (QQ + possible ban).
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 24 2011 19:04 GMT
#18544
we're talking premades here and probably normals at that. but what I'm saying is that it's fucking stupid to complain about your friends having a good time, going too far with their goofing off and ending up losing the game. Shikyo needs to stop dickriding Kerp because it's Kerp and start playing with people who won't piss away a lead if that's how he feels. different people play the game for different reasons and you can get mad about stuff in solo queue but getting mad and raging about premades is just stupid. Find a different premade if they don't have the necessary values for you to have a good time.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 24 2011 19:05 GMT
#18545
How did we get to bashing trolling in ranked when Shikyo's situation is almost certainly a normal? Or if it is ranked, he SAID it was a premade, so everyone knows each other.

Yes it's dumb to troll people you don't know in solo queue. But if you're premading its really not that hard to get everyone on the same page.
Moderator
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 19:09:13
June 24 2011 19:08 GMT
#18546
On June 25 2011 04:05 TheYango wrote:
How did we get to bashing trolling in ranked when Shikyo's situation is almost certainly a normal? Or if it is ranked, he SAID it was a premade, so everyone knows each other.

Yes it's dumb to troll people you don't know in solo queue. But if you're premading its really not that hard to get everyone on the same page.

it's normals, we were playing vs SK nRated and I wanted to brag about beating him, I even went 11-3-26 that game but noo people have to ruin it all

EDIT: And those people do normally try, they just got so cocky because they thought we win no matter what and that's what pisses me off
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 19:11:03
June 24 2011 19:09 GMT
#18547
I shouldn't have even mentioned Elo (this is probably what got us into trolling solo ranked, which is a completely separate matter), but I'm thinking of things in terms of my IRL friends + Utah/Bear/Turkey where we hate playing against unfun shit so we just spam ranked without caring about the Elo just so we can use bans. Besides, I just don't think 5 man normal vs. ranked changes the siituation at all here. In premade, if they're not on your page about what's important, ditch them and play with people who do.

P.S. Last 2 pages should be moved to Memorial QQ Therapy thread, sorry for blowing a stupid tangent up.

EDIT: TL;DR for Shikyo. Get the fuck over it, in the grand scheme of things, no one gives a flying fuck about whether you beat some pro in a normal.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 24 2011 19:10 GMT
#18548
On June 25 2011 04:04 Mogwai wrote:
we're talking premades here and probably normals at that. but what I'm saying is that it's fucking stupid to complain about your friends having a good time, going too far with their goofing off and ending up losing the game. Shikyo needs to stop dickriding Kerp because it's Kerp and start playing with people who won't piss away a lead if that's how he feels. different people play the game for different reasons and you can get mad about stuff in solo queue but getting mad and raging about premades is just stupid. Find a different premade if they don't have the necessary values for you to have a good time.

Well yeah I'm not disagreeing with that. Might have gotten off track somewhere.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 24 2011 19:12 GMT
#18549
If it helps in any way, there's plans to introduce Normal Draft Pick so now you can try-hard and mess around in Normals without worrying about Elo.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 24 2011 19:14 GMT
#18550
On June 25 2011 04:09 Mogwai wrote:
EDIT: TL;DR for Shikyo. Get the fuck over it, in the grand scheme of things, no one gives a flying fuck about whether you beat some pro in a normal.

Huh it was just 1 post to vent wasn't it? You guys are the ones starting a huge debate, I just don't understand why people can't keep playing properly until the end. That attitude also makes people lose games where they're losing, turnarounds happen more than you'd think if you just believe in yourself all the way.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 24 2011 19:17 GMT
#18551
On June 25 2011 04:08 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 04:05 TheYango wrote:
How did we get to bashing trolling in ranked when Shikyo's situation is almost certainly a normal? Or if it is ranked, he SAID it was a premade, so everyone knows each other.

Yes it's dumb to troll people you don't know in solo queue. But if you're premading its really not that hard to get everyone on the same page.

it's normals, we were playing vs SK nRated and I wanted to brag about beating him, I even went 11-3-26 that game but noo people have to ruin it all

EDIT: And those people do normally try, they just got so cocky because they thought we win no matter what and that's what pisses me off

You realize how silly it is to say that Kerp pissed away your win by screwing around when nrated was probably screwing around to begin with?
Moderator
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
June 24 2011 19:17 GMT
#18552
On June 25 2011 04:12 MoonBear wrote:
If it helps in any way, there's plans to introduce Normal Draft Pick so now you can try-hard and mess around in Normals without worrying about Elo.


I don't ever see Normals being a good place to try something out.

When I want to play a new champion or try a new build.. I learn that champ by grinding out ranked games, not normal games.

Also, I believe(not 100% sure) you can get reported for trolling normal games, and even custom games. Idk if the tribunal makes that distinction, that's a huge problem as far as I'm concerned, since I should be able to go into normal and custom and do whatever I want.

I think I've been reported a couple times for Gangplank Jungle last 2 days in ranked, even though it's super good , I know ive been que dodged twice when locking in first pick GP and saying im gonna jungle.

It's really strange, half the games I play in hes banned, so people know hes improved, but half the games I play in everyone freaks out if someone takes him, and say lol GP pick.

Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 24 2011 19:24 GMT
#18553
On June 25 2011 04:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 04:08 Shikyo wrote:
On June 25 2011 04:05 TheYango wrote:
How did we get to bashing trolling in ranked when Shikyo's situation is almost certainly a normal? Or if it is ranked, he SAID it was a premade, so everyone knows each other.

Yes it's dumb to troll people you don't know in solo queue. But if you're premading its really not that hard to get everyone on the same page.

it's normals, we were playing vs SK nRated and I wanted to brag about beating him, I even went 11-3-26 that game but noo people have to ruin it all

EDIT: And those people do normally try, they just got so cocky because they thought we win no matter what and that's what pisses me off

You realize how silly it is to say that Kerp pissed away your win by screwing around when nrated was probably screwing around to begin with?

Of course it is but have you ever lost a game where opponents have 3 inhibitors down and their nexus is below half hp? zz
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 24 2011 19:25 GMT
#18554
Yes. Many times. And its funny every time. Especially if you do the surrender bug.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 24 2011 19:27 GMT
#18555
On June 25 2011 04:17 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 04:12 MoonBear wrote:
If it helps in any way, there's plans to introduce Normal Draft Pick so now you can try-hard and mess around in Normals without worrying about Elo.


I don't ever see Normals being a good place to try something out.

When I want to play a new champion or try a new build.. I learn that champ by grinding out ranked games, not normal games.

Also, I believe(not 100% sure) you can get reported for trolling normal games, and even custom games. Idk if the tribunal makes that distinction, that's a huge problem as far as I'm concerned, since I should be able to go into normal and custom and do whatever I want.

I think I've been reported a couple times for Gangplank Jungle last 2 days in ranked, even though it's super good , I know ive been que dodged twice when locking in first pick GP and saying im gonna jungle.

It's really strange, half the games I play in hes banned, so people know hes improved, but half the games I play in everyone freaks out if someone takes him, and say lol GP pick.

Hm. You can get reported in any game mode (even Co-Op v AI) if you're ruining the gaming experience for others. The action taken will depend on what you did. The Tribunal is only a guide. Final punishment is determined by Customer Service so the Tribunal can always be overruled.

The way I see it is that Normals is where you test is some really random thing you thought of to see if it's even actually viable, and then once you have an idea how it should work you go to Ranked or something.

On June 25 2011 04:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
Yes. Many times. And its funny every time. Especially if you do the surrender bug.

I hate it when I feel like try-harding to learn something and then get paired with a pre-made and I have to carry them because they troll me and then they just surrender. Zzzz.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 19:31:16
June 24 2011 19:28 GMT
#18556
On June 25 2011 03:37 Mogwai wrote:
it's a game you fucking tryhards, they're just trying to make a boring roflstomp fun by playing like retards. I don't understand why some people have this bitchy mentality when it comes to players playing a game and having fun with it rather than trying their hardest to make optimal plays all the time.

I'm a good player, I play hard, I play to win, I play tournaments, but LoL is still a game and I still wanna have fun with it. If I'm queueing up with friends and roflstomping, I'm going to do some crazy shit just to have fun and I don't understand why people gonna get all butthurt about pissing away a single game that was probably a ton of fun for everyone involved except the one guy who's still hung up about losing 12 elo.


u r fk noob. Play to win, nothing less

!!!

Edit: wow, you fgts actually went on for two pages about a Shikyo rant. When will you TL noobs ever learn...
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 24 2011 19:50 GMT
#18557
EU broken again, client crashes, server busy, server online, login, 10-30min queue, "server is currently busy blablabla", crash, launcher again, server busy, rinse and repeat. Atleast we got 550rp.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 24 2011 19:59 GMT
#18558
On June 25 2011 04:27 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 04:17 BlueBird. wrote:
On June 25 2011 04:12 MoonBear wrote:
If it helps in any way, there's plans to introduce Normal Draft Pick so now you can try-hard and mess around in Normals without worrying about Elo.


I don't ever see Normals being a good place to try something out.

When I want to play a new champion or try a new build.. I learn that champ by grinding out ranked games, not normal games.

Also, I believe(not 100% sure) you can get reported for trolling normal games, and even custom games. Idk if the tribunal makes that distinction, that's a huge problem as far as I'm concerned, since I should be able to go into normal and custom and do whatever I want.

I think I've been reported a couple times for Gangplank Jungle last 2 days in ranked, even though it's super good , I know ive been que dodged twice when locking in first pick GP and saying im gonna jungle.

It's really strange, half the games I play in hes banned, so people know hes improved, but half the games I play in everyone freaks out if someone takes him, and say lol GP pick.

Hm. You can get reported in any game mode (even Co-Op v AI) if you're ruining the gaming experience for others. The action taken will depend on what you did. The Tribunal is only a guide. Final punishment is determined by Customer Service so the Tribunal can always be overruled.

The way I see it is that Normals is where you test is some really random thing you thought of to see if it's even actually viable, and then once you have an idea how it should work you go to Ranked or something.

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 04:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
Yes. Many times. And its funny every time. Especially if you do the surrender bug.

I hate it when I feel like try-harding to learn something and then get paired with a pre-made and I have to carry them because they troll me and then they just surrender. Zzzz.

Why would you solo normal to practice something specific? Most of the time you won't even get the role you want--especially if its solo laning and the other 4 players all instalock solos.
Moderator
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 24 2011 20:04 GMT
#18559
yeah normal soloq is awful for practicing anything, when I practice solo on a new champ I do 3v5 vs AI because that way you always get to be at mid, other than that you should just play ranked as those games have proper roles almost always, unlike normal with 5 ad carries .
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 20:22:14
June 24 2011 20:17 GMT
#18560
i try really hard every fucking game
I'M IN IT TO WIN IT

but srsly, i'll play like when inept asks me to because i think he's the single person who cares the least about this game.
:)
Prev 1 926 927 928 929 930 1152 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
12:00
Day 1
TaKeTV2517
ComeBackTV 970
IndyStarCraft 347
SteadfastSC338
TaKeSeN 272
Rex111
CosmosSc2 75
3DClanTV 68
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 347
SteadfastSC 338
Rex 111
CosmosSc2 75
BRAT_OK 45
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 3807
Bisu 2143
Shuttle 1507
Jaedong 1185
Soma 924
Larva 764
EffOrt 561
firebathero 441
BeSt 422
Snow 402
[ Show more ]
Mini 251
Hyuk 224
actioN 201
Soulkey 180
Sharp 145
ggaemo 129
Mong 65
[sc1f]eonzerg 63
Sea.KH 56
PianO 53
scan(afreeca) 42
Backho 36
sorry 31
ToSsGirL 26
910 19
Terrorterran 19
Shine 16
soO 12
SilentControl 11
HiyA 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Sacsri 5
Dota 2
Gorgc3764
singsing2184
qojqva2163
420jenkins306
Fuzer 223
XcaliburYe97
Counter-Strike
olofmeister12396
fl0m3717
byalli432
oskar73
Other Games
gofns8848
FrodaN2708
B2W.Neo1167
hiko951
crisheroes293
Hui .284
Grubby245
DeMusliM226
KnowMe111
QueenE108
Liquid`VortiX107
Trikslyr40
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 40
• iHatsuTV 16
• Adnapsc2 3
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 6199
• WagamamaTV343
• Noizen39
League of Legends
• TFBlade1513
• Stunt697
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
10h 42m
HomeStory Cup
19h 42m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
HomeStory Cup
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-29
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.