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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 18 2011 12:14 GMT
#17581
Lots of LoL hate on TL, huehue

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=234722
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
June 18 2011 12:23 GMT
#17582
On June 18 2011 21:14 spinesheath wrote:
Lots of LoL hate on TL, huehue

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=234722


People have always been E-sports fascists and they hate on every game that they don't play themselves
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
June 18 2011 12:29 GMT
#17583
akali not good vs that comp idk wtf epikgamer was thinking when they picked akali for west
i wish riot would give me better ping
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 18 2011 12:45 GMT
#17584
On June 18 2011 21:29 locodoco wrote:
akali not good vs that comp idk wtf epikgamer was thinking when they picked akali for west

Wrong logic man
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
yazu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States255 Posts
June 18 2011 13:14 GMT
#17585
On June 18 2011 21:29 locodoco wrote:
akali not good vs that comp idk wtf epikgamer was thinking when they picked akali for west


RLY? yea idts.... they had no burst..... both the ap's for FN were weak.... they should of gotten brand imo. But idk, if swain didnt get caught at the end FN would of won the fight.
g.cuisine
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
June 18 2011 13:17 GMT
#17586
Westrice akali is like a separate, overpowered champion

also alistar had 30 MR all game long (which got reduced by mpen + soraka, probably into the negative)
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
June 18 2011 13:21 GMT
#17587
Freaking Westrice makes akali looks so OP
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 18 2011 14:34 GMT
#17588
DYRUS FAN CLUB
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
June 18 2011 15:05 GMT
#17589
If Dyrus plays Jax at Dreamhack my life will be complete

also... hydralisk!
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 18 2011 15:36 GMT
#17590
On June 18 2011 17:43 Flakes wrote:
Man, I was ready to marathon ranked before dreamhack, and only got like 3 games in. Bumbled my way through 2 rammus victories, and was just getting ready to use a less shitty build.

Haven't found much recent stuff for rammus (the conventional jungle tank rammus that is), he's always been the jungler I really wanted to be good at but hated sucking with. Is stacking HP and relying on defensive curl + runes really the way to go?

Rammus has pretty low HP gain per level. He also has a ton of free armor and mres, so yeah, it makes sense to get HP early on with him. Lategame, HP is the best stat generally due to void staff / last whisper devaluing armor.

Also, unlike Iplaythings, I prefer starting WQQ, slightly faster jungling and more importantly stronger ganks. I may not be high ELO, but I'm pretty confident in the Rammus build I posted in the Rammus guide here in TL.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
EpicPleasure
Profile Joined March 2010
United States164 Posts
June 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#17591
On June 18 2011 20:15 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 17:19 EpicPleasure wrote:
Anyone willing to lend an unused 30 EU account? I can give a 30 US account, I wanted to tryout z ranked on EU servers

why would you do that to yourself

I just wanna learn from both sides Learn the ping also
Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 16:58:40
June 18 2011 16:57 GMT
#17592
Lol, even ezpz hating on LoL, but who doesn't hate no replays, and lack of serious 5's teams.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 17:00:34
June 18 2011 17:00 GMT
#17593
On June 19 2011 01:57 0123456789 wrote:
Lol, even ezpz hating on LoL, but who doesn't hate no replays, and lack of serious 5's teams.


at least he had something constructive to say, I listen to ezpz comment 100%, but man some of the posts in that thread.. honestly it's TL, kind of ashamed. No one was arguing SC2 is a worse game... but people are acting like it's a bad thing LoL is getting some attention -_-. Don't get it.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 18 2011 18:54 GMT
#17594
"Basicly nidalee was owning him butt"

true dat
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 19:01:41
June 18 2011 18:56 GMT
#17595
The problems Rammus has:
1) his initiation, while pretty quite good, can be countered with silences/stuns or even enough slows
Less so if he has flash up.
2) his base tanking stats are pretty poor; he has to rely on items and DBC for survivability. If he gets stunned & focused before he can DBC, he just pops.
3) Rammus isn't really scary in teamfights. He just taunts you and does moderate damage in an AoE around him.
4) tanky jungling dps does everything rammus does better except gank
5) rammus either gets wriggles and wastes most of 1500 gold, or jungles really slowly after the first run

He's still playable, of course, but he's about as reliant on early ganks as Shaco is, only he doesn't snowball as hard.

How does spell vamp interact with DBC?
Also, wriggles might not be a huge waste on rammus now that I think about it. BRB TESTING TIME
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
June 18 2011 19:36 GMT
#17596
EU pretty wrecked. All US made it. EU 1700=US 1450
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 18 2011 19:44 GMT
#17597
Unexpected development in the US vs. EU rivalry on today's Dreamhack matches.
+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 Group Stages spoiler] +
All US teams getting top spots in their respective groups, Epik Gaming going 3-0 in group A, and both TSM and CLG going 2-1 each in group B
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 18 2011 19:49 GMT
#17598
On June 19 2011 03:56 Tooplark wrote:
The problems Rammus has:
1) his initiation, while pretty quite good, can be countered with silences/stuns or even enough slows
Less so if he has flash up.
2) his base tanking stats are pretty poor; he has to rely on items and DBC for survivability. If he gets stunned & focused before he can DBC, he just pops.
3) Rammus isn't really scary in teamfights. He just taunts you and does moderate damage in an AoE around him.
4) tanky jungling dps does everything rammus does better except gank
5) rammus either gets wriggles and wastes most of 1500 gold, or jungles really slowly after the first run

He's still playable, of course, but he's about as reliant on early ganks as Shaco is, only he doesn't snowball as hard.

How does spell vamp interact with DBC?
Also, wriggles might not be a huge waste on rammus now that I think about it. BRB TESTING TIME

1) Wards can also counter his initiation QQ

2) On the flipside, he's a terror in a teamfight with all of his skills up unless the enemy team is super tanky.

Funfire solves issues 3) & 5), I thoroughly advocate rushing it on Rammus.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
June 18 2011 19:52 GMT
#17599
Fun fact: Rammus ult does very nearly the same damage as Fiddlesticks ult with better scaling if you stand in it for the full duration.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
June 18 2011 20:35 GMT
#17600
with 1/2 the radius (= 1/4 the area) and over twice the aoe
also most rammuses don't build AP, since all of their damage requires them to be right next to people
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