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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
November 27 2010 09:47 GMT
#1321
I would hate to have jungle removed from the game. It is a good dynamic and allows for many different heroes to shine if put in the right hands. (Or troll if put in better hands =p )
+ Show Spoiler +
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 11:20:29
November 27 2010 11:18 GMT
#1322
if they "rework" the jungle to be less: 3lanes+jungle and more 3lanes+sometimes someone leaves and jungles from a lane then we might aswell play HoN or Dota...

really the jungle is one of the main differences from the other Moba style games (aswell as an out of match leveling system) which is why I prefer over any other Moba style game to this date. It isn't a dota clone like HoN, but rather a new game in the Moba genre. taking out the jungleing = ((((
washed
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 27 2010 11:59 GMT
#1323
I'd like to see what Riot can come up with as far as jungling is concerned. Right now, if you're playing in a group of similarly skilled players, Jungle vs No Jungle isn't really a choice - if they can make it so that not having a jungler is a tradeoff instead of simply worse, I think LoL would be a better game for it.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 12:07:38
November 27 2010 12:06 GMT
#1324
But it's actually NOT always worse if your 2v2 top is like gangplank + pantheon or something that can zone super hard.

Blitz and Gang paired with anyone who has a stun or zones well is pretty hard to deal with as a top solo.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 27 2010 12:26 GMT
#1325
On November 27 2010 21:06 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
But it's actually NOT always worse if your 2v2 top is like gangplank + pantheon or something that can zone super hard.

Blitz and Gang paired with anyone who has a stun or zones well is pretty hard to deal with as a top solo.


That's why I don't think it's entirely broken. Unless you have a very, very specific setup, though, your team wants a jungler, and even then it's not clear-cut whether you come out ahead. Giving an enemy jungler a second jungle to work with winds up lowering the gain from a 2v1 top or mid.

Like I said, I'd like to see what Riot can do. Allowing playstyle variances in team comp as far as lanes is something I think would make the game more enjoyable.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 27 2010 15:10 GMT
#1326
On November 27 2010 08:13 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 08:02 Brees wrote:
a better question is why the fuck are you guys playing sona?



boobs


i kinda like playing her, only support i really like.

must be because she was op

Was? Riot didn't actually nerf her. It was just a slight increase of mana costs that didn't break her early game and a completely irrelevant change to her auras.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 15:43:23
November 27 2010 15:42 GMT
#1327
On November 28 2010 00:10 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 08:13 Glasse wrote:
On November 26 2010 08:02 Brees wrote:
a better question is why the fuck are you guys playing sona?



boobs


i kinda like playing her, only support i really like.

must be because she was op

Was? Riot didn't actually nerf her. It was just a slight increase of mana costs that didn't break her early game and a completely irrelevant change to her auras.


They changed her auras so you can only have 2 active at one time instead of 3. That's pretty important.

edit: what the shitcocks, im a lurker
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
November 27 2010 15:49 GMT
#1328
On November 27 2010 21:06 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
But it's actually NOT always worse if your 2v2 top is like gangplank + pantheon or something that can zone super hard.

Blitz and Gang paired with anyone who has a stun or zones well is pretty hard to deal with as a top solo.

Actually the biggest nightmare 2v1 lane is alistar+teemo, if trilane actually got popular (instead of jungling being nerfed altogether-.-) that is a retardedly good lane as long as the solo can't 1shot the teemo.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 27 2010 16:18 GMT
#1329
I overstated it a bit after his change but yeah, teemo is definitely a nightmare in the top lane solo or otherwise. The fact that he's got a blind AND DoT with a hilarious passive (run into bush, draw them through mushroom, stand still and spam LOL in all chat) is ridiculous.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 27 2010 16:21 GMT
#1330
On November 28 2010 00:42 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 00:10 spinesheath wrote:
On November 27 2010 08:13 Glasse wrote:
On November 26 2010 08:02 Brees wrote:
a better question is why the fuck are you guys playing sona?



boobs


i kinda like playing her, only support i really like.

must be because she was op

Was? Riot didn't actually nerf her. It was just a slight increase of mana costs that didn't break her early game and a completely irrelevant change to her auras.


They changed her auras so you can only have 2 active at one time instead of 3. That's pretty important.

edit: what the shitcocks, im a lurker

Doesn't mean anything earlygame, which is Sona's dominating phase.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
November 27 2010 16:30 GMT
#1331
So every single game I have lost today has a vlad. In fact, every game the vlad played a major part in the defeat. I don't think this is a coincidence: I believe vlad is highly overrated. Nobody needs a solo ap 'carry' with no disables, and has a weak early game against anyone who is remotely competent. Maybe your team will make up for it and has nice aoe disables to make up for your weakness and let you land your r, but most of the time your team picks other random shit too. Just a horrible horrible pick in solo queue. Doesn't have the gamechanging ability u want from a solo.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
November 27 2010 16:46 GMT
#1332
On November 28 2010 01:30 cascades wrote:
So every single game I have lost today has a vlad. In fact, every game the vlad played a major part in the defeat. I don't think this is a coincidence: I believe vlad is highly overrated. Nobody needs a solo ap 'carry' with no disables, and has a weak early game against anyone who is remotely competent. Maybe your team will make up for it and has nice aoe disables to make up for your weakness and let you land your r, but most of the time your team picks other random shit too. Just a horrible horrible pick in solo queue. Doesn't have the gamechanging ability u want from a solo.



Yeah that happens when you dont play with a good vladimir. His ultimate is a hugely game changing ability especially if you have a heavy aoe team with Fiddle, Morg, Galio, Amumu, etc.


His early game (sub level 5) is less than amazing but he quickly ramps up into a pretty amazing carry after that. I think vladimir is still very very strong, probably one of, if not the best, caster.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
November 27 2010 17:40 GMT
#1333
Flakes' Tryndamere guide: only buy yellow items
[image loading]
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 27 2010 17:47 GMT
#1334
On November 28 2010 02:40 Flakes wrote:
Flakes' Tryndamere guide: only buy yellow items
[image loading]

And what item did you start with?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
November 27 2010 17:55 GMT
#1335
On November 28 2010 02:47 spinesheath wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On November 28 2010 02:40 Flakes wrote:
Flakes' Tryndamere guide: only buy yellow items
[image loading]


And what item did you start with?

cloth armor, I was jungling
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 27 2010 19:08 GMT
#1336
Brown and yellow items OP
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
November 27 2010 19:10 GMT
#1337
Sion - Xin zones pretty well too.
Derp
Daxunyrr
Profile Joined August 2010
United States190 Posts
November 27 2010 19:48 GMT
#1338
On November 28 2010 01:18 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I overstated it a bit after his change but yeah, teemo is definitely a nightmare in the top lane solo or otherwise. The fact that he's got a blind AND DoT with a hilarious passive (run into bush, draw them through mushroom, stand still and spam LOL in all chat) is ridiculous.


Shroom & Zoom.

No one believes me when I say Teemo's a pain in the ass to fight. ._.
Stop bitching bout people who suck and teach em how to play.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 20:11:23
November 27 2010 20:09 GMT
#1339
HSGG needs to stop advertising AD poppy, it's bad for his image. ಠ_ಠ

And his chogath was horrible every time I've seen him play solo q, idk how he thinks he's good with him. (hint: you get ult at lv 6,11 and 16, 600 true damage at lv11 solo top still means instagib in one and a half combo...)

On November 28 2010 04:10 ShoreT wrote:
Sion - Xin zones pretty well too.

If you have a 2v1 try sion+akali, it's the most underrated duo lane in LoL. And after taking the turret at lv 6/7 akali is free to roam aswell so you can even take smite on her.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
November 27 2010 20:12 GMT
#1340
On November 28 2010 05:09 r33k wrote:
HSGG needs to stop advertising AD poppy, it's bad for his image. ಠ_ಠ

And his chogath was horrible every time I've seen him play solo q, idk how he thinks he's good with him. (hint: you get ult at lv 6,11 and 16, 600 true damage at lv11 solo top still means instagib in one and a half combo...)

He does abuse the instagib. His problem is his selfish nature. This game they had vlad and cho solo - twitch duo laning with shen. Then in teamfights he was like running after master yi while malph + poppy + ashe wrecked twitch (then afterwards he kept yelling "WTF YOU SO BAD TWITCH DONT BE COCKY IDIOT AND LISTEN TO BETTER PLAYERS")
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