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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 26 2011 21:16 GMT
#8021
Fixing shit part II is up on the Riot forums. Check it out, say something nice.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=6547890#post6547890
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
February 26 2011 21:29 GMT
#8022
On February 27 2011 06:14 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 05:56 0123456789 wrote:
Soraka is a good champion. Why is everyone hating on her. She has the utility for a support, good laning, and she heals. It's just that janna is better, but in picks games soraka just as good.


In teamfights, Soraka is good for one or two single heals (and now, a hefty armor buff) one full team heal, one silence, and some number of starcalls.
Janna is good for popping up everyone in a line, shielding someone, boosting that someone's damage by about 1850 gold worth, slowing someone, and shoving melees away from your carry while slowing them as they try to get back.
Janna also operates better on 0 farm, has more mobility, and is better at protecting towers.



except janna is pretty much permabanned in competitive play, so soraka is highly valued.
Brees on in
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 26 2011 21:45 GMT
#8023
[image loading]

I've never felt more dirty. Brb gonna take a 10 hour shower.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 21:47:55
February 26 2011 21:46 GMT
#8024
On February 27 2011 06:29 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 06:14 Tooplark wrote:
On February 27 2011 05:56 0123456789 wrote:
Soraka is a good champion. Why is everyone hating on her. She has the utility for a support, good laning, and she heals. It's just that janna is better, but in picks games soraka just as good.


In teamfights, Soraka is good for one or two single heals (and now, a hefty armor buff) one full team heal, one silence, and some number of starcalls.
Janna is good for popping up everyone in a line, shielding someone, boosting that someone's damage by about 1850 gold worth, slowing someone, and shoving melees away from your carry while slowing them as they try to get back.
Janna also operates better on 0 farm, has more mobility, and is better at protecting towers.



except janna is pretty much permabanned in competitive play, so soraka is highly valued.


This. If there's no janna or zilean like there isn't a lot of the time, then you're left with soraka, taric, or sona. I think rather than running no support and gimping one or two people bot, you can run soraka who's ranged to get some early pressure off and trade hits with heals.


I just stand by the belief that soraka is good. Most people don't think so, and I want to hear their opinions.


r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
February 26 2011 21:54 GMT
#8025
Chrispy doublelift and jiji vs HSGG on clg stream right now!
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 21:57:05
February 26 2011 21:55 GMT
#8026
i slow
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 22:13:55
February 26 2011 22:13 GMT
#8027
On February 27 2011 04:59 myopia wrote:
man I love treeman, gonna write a guide for him sometime after next week's patch


in other news, please don't dive. Please don't chase. 9 times out of 10 it's a bad idea.


Treeman is great. I have never had a champion that I could so consistently fall behind with in the laning phase only to consistently come back later and be able to help my team.

And by fall behind with in the laning phase, I mean feed horribly. I need to fix that. I bet if I just fixed that I could walk into mid and all the towers would fall down like dominoes.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
February 26 2011 22:33 GMT
#8028
Too bad no one plays AoE teams these days. Maokai would have destroyed.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 26 2011 23:03 GMT
#8029
Yeah more and more I'm starting to see Soraka and Alistar rise in value to their original OP
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 23:50:04
February 26 2011 23:49 GMT
#8030
On February 27 2011 07:13 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 04:59 myopia wrote:
man I love treeman, gonna write a guide for him sometime after next week's patch


in other news, please don't dive. Please don't chase. 9 times out of 10 it's a bad idea.


Treeman is great. I have never had a champion that I could so consistently fall behind with in the laning phase only to consistently come back later and be able to help my team.

And by fall behind with in the laning phase, I mean feed horribly. I need to fix that. I bet if I just fixed that I could walk into mid and all the towers would fall down like dominoes.


I wrote an elaborate detailed guide for Maokai this afternoon and then accidently closed the tab and my work was gone. I wanted to cry.


Tree has a hard laning phase just because it's hard to not push the lane at times when you're harassing with Saplings and he's so vulnerable to ganks because his glacial move speed. But it helps a lot if you run Move Speed Quints. So much.
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
February 26 2011 23:52 GMT
#8031
Unless you really like it when your team hates you, never queue with boes.

made an entire game turn against me :<

PS "gragas was worse than herpes"
AKA SurfSolar ----- This is the product of a DIY inadequate home
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 27 2011 01:31 GMT
#8032
On February 27 2011 06:46 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 06:29 Brees wrote:
On February 27 2011 06:14 Tooplark wrote:
On February 27 2011 05:56 0123456789 wrote:
Soraka is a good champion. Why is everyone hating on her. She has the utility for a support, good laning, and she heals. It's just that janna is better, but in picks games soraka just as good.


In teamfights, Soraka is good for one or two single heals (and now, a hefty armor buff) one full team heal, one silence, and some number of starcalls.
Janna is good for popping up everyone in a line, shielding someone, boosting that someone's damage by about 1850 gold worth, slowing someone, and shoving melees away from your carry while slowing them as they try to get back.
Janna also operates better on 0 farm, has more mobility, and is better at protecting towers.



except janna is pretty much permabanned in competitive play, so soraka is highly valued.


This. If there's no janna or zilean like there isn't a lot of the time, then you're left with soraka, taric, or sona. I think rather than running no support and gimping one or two people bot, you can run soraka who's ranged to get some early pressure off and trade hits with heals.


I just stand by the belief that soraka is good. Most people don't think so, and I want to hear their opinions.



because her heal is a straight hp heal, soraka works better when your team composition is very tanky. That's because the heal heals regardless of how much armor/magic resist the target has, giving more effective HP overall.

However, if your lineup is not that tanky, then the heal doesn't matter as much. Even with the armor buff to the target, magic resist is not increased (aside from her passive) and she has no real way of helping to get the enemy off your damage. So assassin type champs really do well against her.

Like, I'd be more scared and infinitely more pissed off if Soraka was with Rammus, Xin Zhao, Cho... etc. than I would be if Soraka was with Ashe/Lux/insertothersquishy.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
February 27 2011 01:47 GMT
#8033
Soraka y morde = always kill, never die x 2.

Does wish heal morde's ghost?
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
February 27 2011 01:52 GMT
#8034
On February 27 2011 10:31 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 06:46 0123456789 wrote:
On February 27 2011 06:29 Brees wrote:
On February 27 2011 06:14 Tooplark wrote:
On February 27 2011 05:56 0123456789 wrote:
Soraka is a good champion. Why is everyone hating on her. She has the utility for a support, good laning, and she heals. It's just that janna is better, but in picks games soraka just as good.


In teamfights, Soraka is good for one or two single heals (and now, a hefty armor buff) one full team heal, one silence, and some number of starcalls.
Janna is good for popping up everyone in a line, shielding someone, boosting that someone's damage by about 1850 gold worth, slowing someone, and shoving melees away from your carry while slowing them as they try to get back.
Janna also operates better on 0 farm, has more mobility, and is better at protecting towers.



except janna is pretty much permabanned in competitive play, so soraka is highly valued.


This. If there's no janna or zilean like there isn't a lot of the time, then you're left with soraka, taric, or sona. I think rather than running no support and gimping one or two people bot, you can run soraka who's ranged to get some early pressure off and trade hits with heals.


I just stand by the belief that soraka is good. Most people don't think so, and I want to hear their opinions.



because her heal is a straight hp heal, soraka works better when your team composition is very tanky. That's because the heal heals regardless of how much armor/magic resist the target has, giving more effective HP overall.

However, if your lineup is not that tanky, then the heal doesn't matter as much. Even with the armor buff to the target, magic resist is not increased (aside from her passive) and she has no real way of helping to get the enemy off your damage. So assassin type champs really do well against her.

Like, I'd be more scared and infinitely more pissed off if Soraka was with Rammus, Xin Zhao, Cho... etc. than I would be if Soraka was with Ashe/Lux/insertothersquishy.



hah assassin champs in competitive play, thats a good one
Brees on in
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 27 2011 01:53 GMT
#8035
On February 27 2011 06:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
[image loading]

I've never felt more dirty. Brb gonna take a 10 hour shower.


how the fuck does tank teemo work? i dont even get it
And all is illuminated.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
February 27 2011 01:53 GMT
#8036
On February 27 2011 10:53 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 06:45 BlackPaladin wrote:
[image loading]

I've never felt more dirty. Brb gonna take a 10 hour shower.


how the fuck does tank teemo work? i dont even get it

People think they can kill you and they run into shrooms.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 27 2011 01:58 GMT
#8037
but the sunfire???????
And all is illuminated.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
February 27 2011 02:02 GMT
#8038
Well the Sunfire is so you can stand invisible in the middle of the lane and people go "OHMYGOD WHAT IS DOING THIS DEEPS TO ME?!?!?! WHY I HURT SO MUCH?!!?!?!"
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
February 27 2011 02:03 GMT
#8039
it does magic damage in an area around him!!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
February 27 2011 02:07 GMT
#8040
http://www.own3d.tv/video/77857/Runeterra__id_441__Archive__2011-02-25_10_02_43_-_10_26_06_

This game is pretty hilarious. The hadoukens and Fiddle ults had me laughing quite hard, I must say.
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