So, I learned the reason I hate playing ranged dps so much in the TL b game today. I can last hit decently, but I suck at harassment. I focus only on last hitting, and neglect harassment and thus my opponent either harasses the shit out of me, or last hits better than I can, and I lose the lane. Not to mention that if I never harass, I never have a shot at kills outside of ganks.

So- any good players go tips/ would be willing to practice against me?

Phrost

United States4008 Posts

February 17 2011 04:12 GMT

#7222

On February 17 2011 12:09 Phrost wrote:
okay so im streaming on justin.tv/tl_phrost

come watch and shit

testing things out

playing corki now, you can also talk to me

overt

United States9006 Posts

February 17 2011 04:20 GMT

#7223

On February 17 2011 07:08 Haemonculus wrote:
What is with the new queue thing? I've never had a problem logging in before, o.o;

Is it always going to be like this? A waiting period every time I want to log in?

What keeps me from just leaving my LoL client running in the background 24/7 to bypass that shit?

From what I understood the login queue is only there if the servers are busy. So instead of not being able to get in at all you'll be able to get in via a queue.

And I've left my LoL open since like 4 PM EST with no problems, so yeah you can just leave LoL open I guess.

Also, I would really like to pick up Maokai. I hope the store is back up soon...

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

February 17 2011 04:22 GMT

#7224

On February 17 2011 13:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
So, I learned the reason I hate playing ranged dps so much in the TL b game today. I can last hit decently, but I suck at harassment. I focus only on last hitting, and neglect harassment and thus my opponent either harasses the shit out of me, or last hits better than I can, and I lose the lane. Not to mention that if I never harass, I never have a shot at kills outside of ganks.

So- any good players go tips/ would be willing to practice against me?

Try to always autoattack lane enemy when you have time to. If theres nothing to last hit, walk up, get a hit off, walk back (so you don't take too much aggro.) Obviously this doesn't work with every champ vs every champ but with experience you'll get good at it.

Also, trade hits. If an Anivia Q's you, make sure to hit her back because her things are on CD so you need to abuse this time window.

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

February 17 2011 04:33 GMT

#7225

Another thing is: look at your own minion's HP. If you see one getting low, they're going to go for the last hit, so that's your best chance at harassing without retaliation.

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

February 17 2011 05:11 GMT

#7226

Is it counter intuitive doing well with non carry champs? I've been using Kat+Zil and I'm getting like a 30-40% win rate. Every single game I got something like 25/5 at the very minimum from ganks, but I can't carry the team, and nobody else is able to carry the team since I'm getting every kill. I tried using Sivir since she's free this weak but I'm completely sucking with her since her playstyle is so different. Is there something I have to do with non-carry champs to win solo queue games, or do I have to learn a carry?

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

February 17 2011 05:21 GMT

#7227

Kat gets a lot of kills but loses the game. It's just how her champion works because she's usually the last one standing if you're playing her right and she sucks balls at taking towers.

Zil is a support. Period. If you're fed, you're still a fed support.

Dgiese

United States2687 Posts

February 17 2011 05:24 GMT

#7228

You have to carry but it doesn't have to be with a carry. Generally speaking I find it easier to drag my teammates kicking at screaming to the victory screen if I choose a champion that can demolish towers quickly. I.e. Gank a lane (either kill them or send them healing, then you + lane kills the first tower). Once I've got mid + another tower down I'll ward up their jungle and push hard for second tower.

I've found it to be far more useful to push towers than to 'teamfight' over nothing. Whatever you decide on doing however, make sure your teammates are well aware of it i.e. "I'm kat and I'm fed, you guys initiate and I'll come in after the first wave of stun and ult them", or my style "I'm going to solo push and draw them to me then run, while I'm doing that instead of chasing them you guys should push the other side of the map".

dnastyx

United States2707 Posts

February 17 2011 05:25 GMT

#7229

Carrying isn't about how big your KDR is, although that helps.

Carrying is about completing objectives so that your team can win the game.

Irave

United States9965 Posts

February 17 2011 05:26 GMT

#7230

Oh man poor Loci, you get the challenge of having Grackis on your team against Hotshot and Double. So he gets ganked lvl 1 and rages at the team, while informing new ryze is bad. Like everyone here keeps telling you, you need to stream!

ZERG_RUSSIAN

10417 Posts

February 17 2011 05:29 GMT

#7231

Ya carrying has nothing to do with kills at all. Carrying is convincing your team to do the correct objectives at the correct time because it's the correct thing to do OR dictating the teamfights. Kills are just an indication of how many times your enemies messed up.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

February 17 2011 05:30 GMT

#7232

On February 17 2011 14:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Zil is a support. Period. If you're fed, you're still a fed support.

Why do I keep seeing him solo mid/top built heavy AP on high Elo streams?

dnastyx

United States2707 Posts

February 17 2011 05:34 GMT

#7233

Because jiji does whatever the fuck he wants.

Also, why are there like 10 people in LiquidParty? Did we all move to LiquidZombies or something?

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

February 17 2011 05:46 GMT

#7234

Ty for the tips guys. I think I'm just gonna stick with Kat/Zil and try to get teammates to push towers more often. I'm utterly hopeless with Sivir. Are there any good Kat players in TL that can give some pointers?

Wala.Revolution

7584 Posts

February 17 2011 05:52 GMT

#7235

How often do you guys get 'Retrieving data from server' and 'An unknown error has occured'? Or lol making 'whoosh' sounds when people join channels except it loads 1-5 at a time so you here 'wooshes' for a minute and still not be able to see LP/friends online?

I am genuinely asking. Is it just me?

Oh if you leave lol for a long time do you guys sometimes try to make games but get logged out? I forgot the message.

myopia

United States2928 Posts

February 17 2011 06:10 GMT

#7236

how to counter first pick TT Yi:

Rammus/Teemo/Jax with 3 exhausts

ploofadoof

12 Posts

February 17 2011 06:36 GMT

#7237

hey, was wondering if i could get some help on this or be redirected to where i could find the answer to this (yes i'm new here) whenever i try to join the liquidparty chat in the LoL client i end up in a chat with like 5 people but i can see on streams that the same chat is open with ~200 people... how fix?

crate

United States2474 Posts

February 17 2011 06:40 GMT

#7238

Join LiquidParty

The capitalization matters.