EPTHonestly though I was kind of wondering what Riot would do with CDR once CDR boots came out since that was a lot of CDR floating around. I guess we have the answer: Nerf everything!
Only AD champs and veigar allowed to have CDR naow.
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Honestly though I was kind of wondering what Riot would do with CDR once CDR boots came out since that was a lot of CDR floating around. I guess we have the answer: Nerf everything! Only AD champs and veigar allowed to have CDR naow. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Isn't the problem with the idea of 'caster carry' the lack of multiplicative scaling such as attackspeed, critdamage, and critchance? AP is additive, mana is additive, and cdr quickly hardcaps. | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On February 12 2011 22:57 phyvo wrote: The thing I don't like about the change is that they're nerfing SV (again, really? Who's going to buy the thing now?), and I bet they're going to take off 10% from GS/FH and make those items even more unattractive compared to Randuin's (I mainly grabbed FH on supertanky Cho Gath when the other team had two or more AD characters, since I need the mana/armor and CD and don't need health as much). SS already felt lackluster to me on support, it never gave enough mana regen for me if I was mana hungry, the health helps only *you* vs AP burst, and at least in solo queue I rarely saw anyone on my team stack CDR with it since they had other worries. Honestly though I was kind of wondering what Riot would do with CDR once CDR boots came out since that was a lot of CDR floating around. I guess we have the answer: Nerf everything! Only AD champs and veigar allowed to have CDR naow. after watching riot vs bots match, u should know that they have no idea about how to play(balance) this game -.- | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
AP, Mana, MPen, CDR, Deathcap. CritDamage "caps out" the very second you finish your IE. It's pretty much the same effect as Deathcap's passive. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On February 13 2011 00:52 emucxg wrote: after watching riot vs bots match, u should know that they have no idea about how to play(balance) this game -.- Because clearly these guys were top tier Riot players... Like, everyone knew Riot would send the worst of their players to the showmatch and yet there are people who are surprised by their bad performance o.o Presonally i find it very good for Riot to have employees with skill level varying a lot, they will always know what is a good "noobstomper" and what isn't - and their policy is trying to make competition on any skill level free of "imba" | ||
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JokerSan
United States306 Posts
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puckstop101
Canada132 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
FH nerf makes Urgot sad. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On February 13 2011 00:41 0123456789 wrote: Ryze is never picked? I see people like sologamer, dongpi, and some other dudes play him all the time. On the other hand, I haven't seen an annie played in forever. FOREVER!!! Maybe there's something wrong with ANNIE riot She's still hella strong, (she's just as strong as allways, never changed in ages) just not picked enough because anivia / vlad is better. The moment they nerf anivia / vlad (this patch maybe) then maybe annie will step back up with ryze as the main casters. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
annie is the best caster in game better than aniv,vlad,and whoever u can think of the only hero that comes even close is zil | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 13 2011 02:28 locodoco wrote: at the highest level of play annie is the best caster in game better than aniv,vlad,and whoever u can think of the only hero that comes even close is zil Why isn't she played more than? Just in general. And for the record, I think Anivia is best. Annie is second though, easily better than Vlad. Haven't seen anyone play Zil as good as jiji. Should ask Chrispy and yang what they think about jiji Zil. huk | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
On February 13 2011 02:31 NeoIllusions wrote: Why isn't she played more than? Just in general. And for the record, I think Anivia is best. Annie is second though, easily better than Vlad. Haven't seen anyone play Zil as good as jiji. Should ask Chrispy and yang what they think about jiji Zil. huk cuz annie's more team dependent than zil or anivia or vlad its sorta like how ashe is the best carry but no1 plays her in solo q cuz she's more team dependent than trist or corki if u have annie on ur team,u never ever have to fight a bad fight always let annie initiate and just follow through playing vs anivia? ward their blue and force a fight when anivia tries to take it playing vs zil? always start the fight with a tibbers on zil and follow up with stuns after stuns | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On February 13 2011 02:38 locodoco wrote: cuz annie's more team dependent than zil or anivia or vlad its sorta like how ashe is the best carry but no1 plays her in solo q cuz she's more team dependent than trist or corki if u have annie on ur team,u never ever have to fight a bad fight always let annie initiate and just follow through playing vs anivia? ward their blue and force a fight when anivia tries to take it playing vs zil? always start the fight with a tibbers on zil and follow up with stuns after stuns more general tip, please ? | ||
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TL Blazeraid
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On February 13 2011 02:38 locodoco wrote: cuz annie's more team dependent than zil or anivia or vlad its sorta like how ashe is the best carry but no1 plays her in solo q cuz she's more team dependent than trist or corki if u have annie on ur team,u never ever have to fight a bad fight always let annie initiate and just follow through playing vs anivia? ward their blue and force a fight when anivia tries to take it playing vs zil? always start the fight with a tibbers on zil and follow up with stuns after stuns What ashe and annie have over aniv/vlad/trist/corki is better initiation with your ultimate for much less sustained damage. Would you then say that initiation is one of the most important things in high level arranged team play? (I can understand it though, a few seconds of them not doing shit while you doing all your shit lets you get all the kills first) On February 13 2011 02:54 TL Blazeraid wrote: Since we're talking about Annie, what lane should she be in ideally? From my experience, although you can get kills in a bottom lane since annie is very strong in lane you want her in a solo lane because she relies so much on spell damage; you won't have a strong enough presence in midgame and your lategame will be underfarmed if you play annie from a bottom lane unless you get kills from it. Unlike some characters XP is far far more important than gold for annie. (gold is still great of course but you need to be beefy as annie because you can't sit at the pack and poke at the tanky characters like a ranged carry.) I don't really like top too much because its so easy to sit and farm all day but if you're really good and know when to go into their jungle or mid lane or let somebody take top and go fuck shit up in midgame then I imagine its almost as good as mid. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On February 13 2011 02:54 TL Blazeraid wrote: Since we're talking about Annie, what lane should she be in ideally? Where their carry is, she is excellent at shutting down carries. But she can practically win vs any carry while still farming (zoning with W and last htting with Q for inifnite mana, and once she hits level 6 she can do 800 or so damage with ignite, followed up by 400 more in next round of spells. She punishes overextending alot, thats why I like her top, but she can hit a rough patch vs some tanky tops (cho, sion), but she can still beat them (but no instagibbing though) | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 13 2011 01:16 puckstop101 wrote: I'm actully likeing these cooldwon reduc nerfs, it was getting redicualous that i could always have a bomb on someones head at lvl 18 provided i had the mana for it, and this will shoot vlad down a bit since it will be longer cooldowns on his q ...except neither of those have ANYTHING to do with Spirit Visage, Frozen Heart, or Soul Shroud. Zilean hits max CDR off of blue buff. Vlad hits max CDR off of CDR boots + blue elixir + runes/masteries. | ||
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