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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 16:44:58
February 11 2011 16:20 GMT
#6721
On February 12 2011 00:53 BlackPaladin wrote:
Yeah Blizzard has always been my favorite PC game company. They always had great customer support imo. Their only real problems have been recently with all the SCII things because bnet 2 was so horribly designed during beta and had like no features to speak of, etc. I remember from original SC people complaining about how useless mutas were and that they needed buffs lol. Wow, I was around 9/10 back then. o_o Remember how BC's were 8 supply even. ^^

But yeah, Riot is really interactive and responsive to the community as a whole. I kind of like that about them. I can tell most of them have good senses of humor but they have to sometimes hide it to not offend many morons who troll the LoL forums.

A big problem with Riot though is that they have so much on their plate it's ridiculous. The game is relatively new. It's not a 10+ year old game like SC or 5 year old game like DotA. And they're trying to do way too much at once because, well, they kind of have to. They need to bring out new champs because of their business model. They need to balance the game because of the addition of new champs and changes in the metagame. And during this they need to find ways to increase server stability, get more/better servers, add features such as replays and observer mode, and also come out with new content such as maps (magma chamber), modes (PvE), or even items (boots of lucidity anyone?) to keep the game new and evolving. It slows everything they want to do down because they're all over the place.

All I ask for is the bare basics and they are just not providing it for eu. A server that doesn't go down every single day (for the last week gathering losses because the game doesn't start up and put you in limbo is about as fun as when the buss is cancled without any notice so you stand there in the freezing rain for 45 before giving up and walking home instead), a hotfix to the bug that makes you able to pick banned heroes and chat system that is actually up once every year. That isn't unreasonble to ask for.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 11 2011 16:24 GMT
#6722
I sincerely doubt you've ever had your eyes gouged out if you honestly think that an online game stalling out on you is in the same league of fun -_-.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 16:36:01
February 11 2011 16:35 GMT
#6723
On February 12 2011 00:58 barbsq wrote:
using riots new patcher atm

it looks remarkably similar to the mac patcher..... :o

Do you have any idea how it actually differs in patching? Seems like a bit of bullshit from Riot to me, especially with the timing of its release. I assume that the ability to download previous versions doesn't actually exist yet, and that this new launcher is really more of a new skin that anything else. That all comes without any real evidence, however, as I haven't actually installed it since I'm waiting for the 3rd party replay stuff to update to support it.

On another somewhat related note, I cracked open the 3rd party replay stuff and looked at its source, and its code is quite ugly. During games it simply saves out all the packets the game receives, then sends them back to replay them. Fairly simple, and what I expected. Kinda got me interested in developing my own version though, although I'm far more interested in a project that doesn't duplicate its functionality: streaming. The same method they use to save replays could be used to buffer that data on a server and then redistribute it to any number of clients at once, allowing people to watch players live ingame. Combine that with screen position syncing and perhaps mouse actions and you've got something really interesting, I think.

Of course, I'm pretty certain that with school and work, I don't have the time to finish a project of that scope. Won't stop me from trying, though.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
February 11 2011 16:45 GMT
#6724
On February 12 2011 01:24 Mogwai wrote:
I sincerely doubt you've ever had your eyes gouged out if you honestly think that an online game stalling out on you is in the same league of fun -_-.

fixed
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
February 11 2011 16:53 GMT
#6725
On February 12 2011 01:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
What's the deal with the Mac client anyway? A friend of mine just started playing but he's using bootcamp because we couldn't find any proper info about Mac usage or beta anywhere, even on the LoL forums.


i think i still have the old dmg for mac beta client, if theres sufficient interest i can megaupload it and create a mac lol thread.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 11 2011 18:26 GMT
#6726
On February 12 2011 01:45 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:24 Mogwai wrote:
I sincerely doubt you've ever had your eyes gouged out if you honestly think that an online game stalling out on you is in the same league of fun -_-.

fixed

What did you fix

it looks like an exact quote to me

just fucking leave
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
February 11 2011 18:32 GMT
#6727
On February 12 2011 01:35 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 00:58 barbsq wrote:
using riots new patcher atm

it looks remarkably similar to the mac patcher..... :o

Do you have any idea how it actually differs in patching? Seems like a bit of bullshit from Riot to me, especially with the timing of its release. I assume that the ability to download previous versions doesn't actually exist yet, and that this new launcher is really more of a new skin that anything else. That all comes without any real evidence, however, as I haven't actually installed it since I'm waiting for the 3rd party replay stuff to update to support it.

On another somewhat related note, I cracked open the 3rd party replay stuff and looked at its source, and its code is quite ugly. During games it simply saves out all the packets the game receives, then sends them back to replay them. Fairly simple, and what I expected. Kinda got me interested in developing my own version though, although I'm far more interested in a project that doesn't duplicate its functionality: streaming. The same method they use to save replays could be used to buffer that data on a server and then redistribute it to any number of clients at once, allowing people to watch players live ingame. Combine that with screen position syncing and perhaps mouse actions and you've got something really interesting, I think.

Of course, I'm pretty certain that with school and work, I don't have the time to finish a project of that scope. Won't stop me from trying, though.


re: new patcher; it's supposedly not a shitty version of Internet Explorer anymore, so you can't do Ctrl+L and browse websites rendered crappily lol
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
February 11 2011 18:36 GMT
#6728
On February 12 2011 03:26 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:45 Hynda wrote:
On February 12 2011 01:24 Mogwai wrote:
I sincerely doubt you've ever had your eyes gouged out if you honestly think that an online game stalling out on you is in the same league of fun -_-.

fixed

What did you fix

it looks like an exact quote to me

just fucking leave


To his credit he fixed what *he* said not what Mogwai said, his post doesn't mention eye gouging anymore.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 20:20:02
February 11 2011 19:17 GMT
#6729
keep it civil guys

hynda received a week ban. if ya don't like the game don't fucking post in our forum for it! this isn't the place for airing grievances.

similar posts by other members will receive similar action.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 11 2011 19:17 GMT
#6730
So my post on the lol forums from yesterday got a reply from tryndamere. And its clear he didnt even read the post. Sigh, Riot just doesnt care.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4341 Posts
February 11 2011 19:20 GMT
#6731
Last I heard, they had like 1 or 2 guys coding the game for Mac's. I never found out an ETA though for a release.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 11 2011 20:10 GMT
#6732
On February 12 2011 04:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
So my post on the lol forums from yesterday got a reply from tryndamere. And its clear he didnt even read the post. Sigh, Riot just doesnt care.


I'm guessing replays are completely overwhelming Riot's thought process at the moment due to the uproar LoLReplay caused. I think it's wrong to say they don't care, the problem in this particular instance is likely more a state of mind/communication issue.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
February 11 2011 20:13 GMT
#6733
On February 12 2011 05:10 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 04:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
So my post on the lol forums from yesterday got a reply from tryndamere. And its clear he didnt even read the post. Sigh, Riot just doesnt care.


I'm guessing replays are completely overwhelming Riot's thought process at the moment due to the uproar LoLReplay caused. I think it's wrong to say they don't care, the problem in this particular instance is likely more a state of mind/communication issue.


Yeah, this is the impression I got as well. They've been meaning to get it out for a long time, but the idea that some random people with no knowledge of the game's code have made a semi-functional replay system gave them a square kick in the ass to finish it ASAP.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
February 11 2011 20:42 GMT
#6734
Did anyone else have this bug where you have a Mejais, kill someone, and don't get any stacks (should go from 0 to 2)? No AP either.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
February 11 2011 20:45 GMT
#6735
On February 12 2011 05:42 spinesheath wrote:
Did anyone else have this bug where you have a Mejais, kill someone, and don't get any stacks (should go from 0 to 2)? No AP either.

I've only ever experienced it with karthus when killing someone with your ulti after you died.
wat
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
February 11 2011 21:04 GMT
#6736
I'm not sure if you get stacks if your minions kill enemies. I know that when tibbers deals last hit to golem you don't get the blue (NEITHER TIBBERS)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 11 2011 21:39 GMT
#6737
On February 12 2011 06:04 Kaniol wrote:
I'm not sure if you get stacks if your minions kill enemies. I know that when tibbers deals last hit to golem you don't get the blue (NEITHER TIBBERS)

Herm, that sounds like a bug. I know they changed it so that if shacos clone kills a buff, shaco gets it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
February 11 2011 22:25 GMT
#6738
I was Annie and I killed with Q. Pretty sure that was the killing blow.
Also if a minion kills it, shouldn't I at least get an assist?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 22:32:09
February 11 2011 22:29 GMT
#6739
Brees/inept on DanDinh's stream. Also playing with westrice:
Playing AGAINST BigFatjiji and Ryzer

http://clgaming.net/live/147

MIK Terran
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#6740
On February 12 2011 07:25 spinesheath wrote:
I was Annie and I killed with Q. Pretty sure that was the killing blow.
Also if a minion kills it, shouldn't I at least get an assist?

You should get a kill. Minions only take kills if a champ didnt hit the dead dude within like 15 seconds.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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