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On November 14 2010 11:29 UniversalSnip wrote:I tried the jungle yi build with wriggles ---> quicksilver ---> sunfires. I carried, but it's def a troll build, really don't recommend. To say I was impressed by quicksilver is not enough though. Holy shit, that item is ridiculous on melee dps. Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 10:43 HazMat wrote:On November 14 2010 10:40 Brees wrote:
Continuing the legacy of warmog's sivir I present to you:
4 doran blade + innervating locket urgot.
I actually got destroyed by a locket urgot. MOVE ALONG NOTHING NEW TO SEE HERE. Locket is actually a really good tank item on heroes with spam skills.
It's not like Urgot actually scales, anyways.
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I actually got destroyed by a locket urgot. MOVE ALONG NOTHING NEW TO SEE HERE.
Definitely trying this out tonight.
4 blades seems like an insane amount of overkill and would leave you starving for mana.
The rest of the build remain the same? Bruta/Manamune/Frozen Heart/tank stuff etc.?
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Most. Painful. Game. Ever.
I was Nasus, Galio was another TLer I duo queued with.
LeBlanc didn't start getting kills until the last ten minutes anyway, was 1-11 at a point.
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how does kog have those items, yet still fail to kill people? /o\ I'm so confused.
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x/9/x (SoS) masteries: So far I always put the 9th point into Hardiness (+2 Armor), but Defensive Mastery (-1 damage from Minions) should have a greater effect for laning. What are you guys doing, maybe some short reasoning?
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On November 14 2010 19:14 spinesheath wrote:
x/9/x (SoS) masteries: So far I always put the 9th point into Hardiness (+2 Armor), but Defensive Mastery (-1 damage from Minions) should have a greater effect for laning. What are you guys doing, maybe some short reasoning?
If i'm running Util, I go 0/8/22 nowadays. Without the ability to get nimbleness, there's no point that winds up stronger than +150 gold at surrender mark. I think -1 minion damage is more likely to contribute to the game if you're a harass-oriented player of the two, though. Greed is just so strong that unless you're running Exhaust/Smite as Util (1/8/21), I don't think the 22nd point can be placed better.
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Can you even put the 9th point into defensive mastery? I thought you needed 10 to put one there, but I could be wrong.
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On November 14 2010 19:23 Niton wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 19:14 spinesheath wrote:
x/9/x (SoS) masteries: So far I always put the 9th point into Hardiness (+2 Armor), but Defensive Mastery (-1 damage from Minions) should have a greater effect for laning. What are you guys doing, maybe some short reasoning? If i'm running Util, I go 0/8/22 nowadays. Without the ability to get nimbleness, there's no point that winds up stronger than +150 gold at surrender mark. I think -1 minion damage is more likely to contribute to the game if you're a harass-oriented player of the two, though. Greed is just so strong that unless you're running Exhaust/Smite as Util (1/8/21), I don't think the 22nd point can be placed better.
Almost anything past 8 in utility includes Greed for me. I'm not debating 22 util vs 9 defense, but 2 Armor vs -1 minion damage.
You need 4 points per "layer" in the mastery trees. So the 5th point can go to SoS, and the 9th point to Defensive Mastery. Defensive Mastery is on the same layer as Nimbleness, and x/9/x (Nimbleness) isn't exactly uncommon.
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On November 14 2010 19:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Can you even put the 9th point into defensive mastery? I thought you needed 10 to put one there, but I could be wrong.
It's Hardened Skin you need point 10 for. Defensive Mastery is -1/2 from Minions, Hardened Skin comes from the armor mastery and is -1/1.5/2 damage taken.
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Teams were Twitch/Morg/Kennen/Rammus/Taric v Poppy/Malphite/MF/Vladmir/Warwick.
We just couldn't do anything about them destroying Twitch, and after that, our damage was meh. Malphite/WW/Poppy just gunned straight for Twitch and bursted him down. Was this just a case of us getting outpicked? I couldn't really see a way for us to win teamfights against a comp like that.
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Sounds like bad positioning by Twitch and bad black shields by Morgana to me.
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Morg: Root, Black Shield
Kennen: mass stuns
Rammus: Taunt, Powerball
Taric: Heal, Stun
If Twitch builds some survivabilty after his IE you really should be able to keep him alive. Obviously going for straight damage is bad against so many Anti-Carries.
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On November 14 2010 12:19 Tooplark wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 11:29 UniversalSnip wrote:I tried the jungle yi build with wriggles ---> quicksilver ---> sunfires. I carried, but it's def a troll build, really don't recommend. To say I was impressed by quicksilver is not enough though. Holy shit, that item is ridiculous on melee dps. On November 14 2010 10:43 HazMat wrote:On November 14 2010 10:40 Brees wrote:
Continuing the legacy of warmog's sivir I present to you:
4 doran blade + innervating locket urgot.
I actually got destroyed by a locket urgot. MOVE ALONG NOTHING NEW TO SEE HERE. Locket is actually a really good tank item on heroes with spam skills. It's not like Urgot actually scales, anyways.
lol, i actually have locket as a part of my build, tho very late (after manamune, bveil and heart). I may actually consider moving it up since qspam = obscene amounts of hp regen
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Manamune Chainail/Neg cloak Locket BVeil/Frozbrain?
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On November 14 2010 21:46 dnastyx wrote:
Teams were Twitch/Morg/Kennen/Rammus/Taric v Poppy/Malphite/MF/Vladmir/Warwick.
We just couldn't do anything about them destroying Twitch, and after that, our damage was meh. Malphite/WW/Poppy just gunned straight for Twitch and bursted him down. Was this just a case of us getting outpicked? I couldn't really see a way for us to win teamfights against a comp like that.
Poppy is a pretty strong counterpick to twitch tbh, and then they're abusing the "protect twitch as a group" mentality with vlad and malphite ults while mf takes shots and ults when you start stunning. Really depends on positioning and what happened in the early game though.
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If Malphite/WW/Poppy drop their ults on Twitch, the rest of the team SHOULD be able to win. At the very least, Rammus can pull WW off Twitch. Twitch pretty much has to wait until Malphite and Poppy have already initiated, or for Rammus to initiate and taunt someone while Kennen and Morgana ult.
Really you've basically gotta play without Twitch until all of the nasty is used.
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Poor Gizmo is having a bad game 
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Yeah that didn't go to well for Gizmo :/
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Isnt Gizmo from TL? Poor hotshot was surrounded by people who were all flopping like woah
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