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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
November 14 2010 03:19 GMT
#601
On November 14 2010 11:29 UniversalSnip wrote:
I tried the jungle yi build with wriggles ---> quicksilver ---> sunfires. I carried, but it's def a troll build, really don't recommend.

To say I was impressed by quicksilver is not enough though. Holy shit, that item is ridiculous on melee dps.

Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 10:43 HazMat wrote:
On November 14 2010 10:40 Brees wrote:
Continuing the legacy of warmog's sivir I present to you:

4 doran blade + innervating locket urgot.


I actually got destroyed by a locket urgot. MOVE ALONG NOTHING NEW TO SEE HERE.


Locket is actually a really good tank item on heroes with spam skills.


It's not like Urgot actually scales, anyways.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 04:00:45
November 14 2010 03:59 GMT
#602
I actually got destroyed by a locket urgot. MOVE ALONG NOTHING NEW TO SEE HERE.


Definitely trying this out tonight.
4 blades seems like an insane amount of overkill and would leave you starving for mana.
The rest of the build remain the same? Bruta/Manamune/Frozen Heart/tank stuff etc.?
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Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
November 14 2010 08:02 GMT
#603
[image loading]
Most. Painful. Game. Ever.
I was Nasus, Galio was another TLer I duo queued with.
LeBlanc didn't start getting kills until the last ten minutes anyway, was 1-11 at a point.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 14 2010 08:07 GMT
#604
how does kog have those items, yet still fail to kill people? /o\ I'm so confused.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 14 2010 10:14 GMT
#605
x/9/x (SoS) masteries: So far I always put the 9th point into Hardiness (+2 Armor), but Defensive Mastery (-1 damage from Minions) should have a greater effect for laning. What are you guys doing, maybe some short reasoning?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 14 2010 10:23 GMT
#606
On November 14 2010 19:14 spinesheath wrote:
x/9/x (SoS) masteries: So far I always put the 9th point into Hardiness (+2 Armor), but Defensive Mastery (-1 damage from Minions) should have a greater effect for laning. What are you guys doing, maybe some short reasoning?


If i'm running Util, I go 0/8/22 nowadays. Without the ability to get nimbleness, there's no point that winds up stronger than +150 gold at surrender mark. I think -1 minion damage is more likely to contribute to the game if you're a harass-oriented player of the two, though. Greed is just so strong that unless you're running Exhaust/Smite as Util (1/8/21), I don't think the 22nd point can be placed better.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 14 2010 10:31 GMT
#607
Can you even put the 9th point into defensive mastery? I thought you needed 10 to put one there, but I could be wrong.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 14 2010 10:49 GMT
#608
On November 14 2010 19:23 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 19:14 spinesheath wrote:
x/9/x (SoS) masteries: So far I always put the 9th point into Hardiness (+2 Armor), but Defensive Mastery (-1 damage from Minions) should have a greater effect for laning. What are you guys doing, maybe some short reasoning?


If i'm running Util, I go 0/8/22 nowadays. Without the ability to get nimbleness, there's no point that winds up stronger than +150 gold at surrender mark. I think -1 minion damage is more likely to contribute to the game if you're a harass-oriented player of the two, though. Greed is just so strong that unless you're running Exhaust/Smite as Util (1/8/21), I don't think the 22nd point can be placed better.

Almost anything past 8 in utility includes Greed for me. I'm not debating 22 util vs 9 defense, but 2 Armor vs -1 minion damage.

You need 4 points per "layer" in the mastery trees. So the 5th point can go to SoS, and the 9th point to Defensive Mastery. Defensive Mastery is on the same layer as Nimbleness, and x/9/x (Nimbleness) isn't exactly uncommon.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 14 2010 10:49 GMT
#609
On November 14 2010 19:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Can you even put the 9th point into defensive mastery? I thought you needed 10 to put one there, but I could be wrong.


It's Hardened Skin you need point 10 for. Defensive Mastery is -1/2 from Minions, Hardened Skin comes from the armor mastery and is -1/1.5/2 damage taken.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
November 14 2010 12:46 GMT
#610
Teams were Twitch/Morg/Kennen/Rammus/Taric v Poppy/Malphite/MF/Vladmir/Warwick.

We just couldn't do anything about them destroying Twitch, and after that, our damage was meh. Malphite/WW/Poppy just gunned straight for Twitch and bursted him down. Was this just a case of us getting outpicked? I couldn't really see a way for us to win teamfights against a comp like that.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 14 2010 12:52 GMT
#611
Sounds like bad positioning by Twitch and bad black shields by Morgana to me.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 14 2010 13:00 GMT
#612
Morg: Root, Black Shield
Kennen: mass stuns
Rammus: Taunt, Powerball
Taric: Heal, Stun

If Twitch builds some survivabilty after his IE you really should be able to keep him alive. Obviously going for straight damage is bad against so many Anti-Carries.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 14 2010 13:20 GMT
#613
On November 14 2010 12:19 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2010 11:29 UniversalSnip wrote:
I tried the jungle yi build with wriggles ---> quicksilver ---> sunfires. I carried, but it's def a troll build, really don't recommend.

To say I was impressed by quicksilver is not enough though. Holy shit, that item is ridiculous on melee dps.

On November 14 2010 10:43 HazMat wrote:
On November 14 2010 10:40 Brees wrote:
Continuing the legacy of warmog's sivir I present to you:

4 doran blade + innervating locket urgot.


I actually got destroyed by a locket urgot. MOVE ALONG NOTHING NEW TO SEE HERE.


Locket is actually a really good tank item on heroes with spam skills.


It's not like Urgot actually scales, anyways.


lol, i actually have locket as a part of my build, tho very late (after manamune, bveil and heart). I may actually consider moving it up since qspam = obscene amounts of hp regen
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
November 14 2010 15:08 GMT
#614
Manamune Chainail/Neg cloak Locket BVeil/Frozbrain?
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 14 2010 15:22 GMT
#615
On November 14 2010 21:46 dnastyx wrote:
Teams were Twitch/Morg/Kennen/Rammus/Taric v Poppy/Malphite/MF/Vladmir/Warwick.

We just couldn't do anything about them destroying Twitch, and after that, our damage was meh. Malphite/WW/Poppy just gunned straight for Twitch and bursted him down. Was this just a case of us getting outpicked? I couldn't really see a way for us to win teamfights against a comp like that.

Poppy is a pretty strong counterpick to twitch tbh, and then they're abusing the "protect twitch as a group" mentality with vlad and malphite ults while mf takes shots and ults when you start stunning. Really depends on positioning and what happened in the early game though.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
November 14 2010 15:41 GMT
#616
If Malphite/WW/Poppy drop their ults on Twitch, the rest of the team SHOULD be able to win. At the very least, Rammus can pull WW off Twitch. Twitch pretty much has to wait until Malphite and Poppy have already initiated, or for Rammus to initiate and taunt someone while Kennen and Morgana ult.
Really you've basically gotta play without Twitch until all of the nasty is used.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 17:28:55
November 14 2010 16:44 GMT
#617
http://clgaming.net/index.php?page=livestream Smashgizmo (aka Mogwai) on CLG stream
washed
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
November 14 2010 17:12 GMT
#618
Poor Gizmo is having a bad game
Veni, vidi, vici!
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
November 14 2010 17:20 GMT
#619
Yeah that didn't go to well for Gizmo :/
washed
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 14 2010 17:22 GMT
#620
Isnt Gizmo from TL? Poor hotshot was surrounded by people who were all flopping like woah
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
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