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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 21 2011 07:41 GMT
#4721
urgot rapes too in solo queue, real good
Brees on in
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 21 2011 11:11 GMT
#4722
On January 21 2011 15:24 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 10:11 locodoco wrote:
in solo q
corki=ezreal>trist=sivir=ashe=mf=cait
in ranked 5's
sivir=ashe=corki>trist=ezreal>mf=cait

ashe #1 solo q
but otherwise i agree

Imo Ashe is horrible in unorganized teams compared to other carries. She is extremely farm dependant but has a weak early game. She can't kill people quickly enough to keep up with the feeding of your allies. She has no escapes so you are fucked if the enemy has an assassin and your team fails at protecting you.

And then you get forced into a duo lane with a Janna who just sits at the tower and watches you getting zoned. In the mean time, the enemy mid scores a kill and comes bottom to feed off you because who wouldn't feed off an underleveled squishy without escapes?

I think I'll start banning Janna for the sole reason that I haven't seen a good one on my team forever. Maybe it's an EU only thing, but god they are so useless...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
January 21 2011 11:22 GMT
#4723
zz im such an idiot
i always clicked the topic than clicked the last page
accidentally discovered that there's an arrow after the topic name that takes u to the last page... :S
i wish riot would give me better ping
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 21 2011 11:30 GMT
#4724
On January 21 2011 20:22 locodoco wrote:
zz im such an idiot
i always clicked the topic than clicked the last page
accidentally discovered that there's an arrow after the topic name that takes u to the last page... :S

Hahaha. Gotta admit, it's not that easy to discover, i've found it after like 2 years of lurking TL :x

As for Ashe - i find her awesome if you premade with warwick LOL.
Stealthpenguin
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland393 Posts
January 21 2011 12:58 GMT
#4725
On January 21 2011 20:22 locodoco wrote:
zz im such an idiot
i always clicked the topic than clicked the last page
accidentally discovered that there's an arrow after the topic name that takes u to the last page... :S


O_O You just rocked my world. I always thought it was stupid that you can't go to the last page easier..
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 21 2011 13:14 GMT
#4726
On January 21 2011 21:58 Stealthpenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 20:22 locodoco wrote:
zz im such an idiot
i always clicked the topic than clicked the last page
accidentally discovered that there's an arrow after the topic name that takes u to the last page... :S


O_O You just rocked my world. I always thought it was stupid that you can't go to the last page easier..


O_O
OMG it's true....
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
January 21 2011 13:18 GMT
#4727
Beware the arrow. Sometimes you'll miss pages of conversation because you jumped to the last page and the forum junkies have scrolled out 3 pages of posts in just a few hours.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-21 13:29:11
January 21 2011 13:28 GMT
#4728
I don't understand how people can think that ezreal has more of an impact as a carry than a ashe or sivir in solo queue. I never go like "woah this ez is really fed and is carrying us hard" in lategame,he's strong in early-midgame but he falls off waay more in lategame than an ashe or sivir and has way less impact on the game.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
January 21 2011 14:14 GMT
#4729
On January 21 2011 15:24 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 10:11 locodoco wrote:
in solo q
corki=ezreal>trist=sivir=ashe=mf=cait
in ranked 5's
sivir=ashe=corki>trist=ezreal>mf=cait

ashe #1 solo q
but otherwise i agree

Completely agree. Especially at lower Elo. The things she brings to the table are just awesome to carry imo. Also, I had the greatest game ever not that long ago with an ez on my team where we literally kited and destroyed their entire team. One of the funnest games I've ever had and I'm sad there aren't replays still.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 21 2011 14:27 GMT
#4730
On January 21 2011 22:28 Senx wrote:
I don't understand how people can think that ezreal has more of an impact as a carry than a ashe or sivir in solo queue. I never go like "woah this ez is really fed and is carrying us hard" in lategame,he's strong in early-midgame but he falls off waay more in lategame than an ashe or sivir and has way less impact on the game.

Ezreal has this weird thing where if you're significantly better than the players you're playing against he DESTROYS THEM so like when really good players are on their smurf accounts Ezreal is a totally legit choice to 1v5 the enemy team.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 21 2011 14:33 GMT
#4731
On January 21 2011 23:27 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 22:28 Senx wrote:
I don't understand how people can think that ezreal has more of an impact as a carry than a ashe or sivir in solo queue. I never go like "woah this ez is really fed and is carrying us hard" in lategame,he's strong in early-midgame but he falls off waay more in lategame than an ashe or sivir and has way less impact on the game.

Ezreal has this weird thing where if you're significantly better than the players you're playing against he DESTROYS THEM so like when really good players are on their smurf accounts Ezreal is a totally legit choice to 1v5 the enemy team.

unfortunately 5hit has never done this succesfully
dont let that pentakill deceive you
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 21 2011 14:40 GMT
#4732
On January 21 2011 23:27 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 22:28 Senx wrote:
I don't understand how people can think that ezreal has more of an impact as a carry than a ashe or sivir in solo queue. I never go like "woah this ez is really fed and is carrying us hard" in lategame,he's strong in early-midgame but he falls off waay more in lategame than an ashe or sivir and has way less impact on the game.

Ezreal has this weird thing where if you're significantly better than the players you're playing against he DESTROYS THEM so like when really good players are on their smurf accounts Ezreal is a totally legit choice to 1v5 the enemy team.


So a legit choice if you want to troll shit players, not so much if you want to win an even matchup.

Then again if you play any champ really well you can destroy shit players with it.. so yeah.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
January 21 2011 14:42 GMT
#4733
On January 21 2011 22:28 Senx wrote:
I don't understand how people can think that ezreal has more of an impact as a carry than a ashe or sivir in solo queue. I never go like "woah this ez is really fed and is carrying us hard" in lategame,he's strong in early-midgame but he falls off waay more in lategame than an ashe or sivir and has way less impact on the game.

cuz ezreal doesn't carry late game,he ends the game mid game,ezreal gets 2 doran swords + brut + sheen + lucidity + liz and/or blue,what does ur ashe or sivir have by than a bf and pick axe? or a freshly bought thirster?ezreal can force a dragon fight or a push there and than and cause a significant gap thats often game ending,and ezreal isn't as team dependent as ashe or sivir.
i wish riot would give me better ping
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 21 2011 14:45 GMT
#4734
Wow. I've been on TL for over two years and I never knew about the arrow thing either.
Zero fighting.
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
January 21 2011 14:47 GMT
#4735
On January 21 2011 23:40 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2011 23:27 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On January 21 2011 22:28 Senx wrote:
I don't understand how people can think that ezreal has more of an impact as a carry than a ashe or sivir in solo queue. I never go like "woah this ez is really fed and is carrying us hard" in lategame,he's strong in early-midgame but he falls off waay more in lategame than an ashe or sivir and has way less impact on the game.

Ezreal has this weird thing where if you're significantly better than the players you're playing against he DESTROYS THEM so like when really good players are on their smurf accounts Ezreal is a totally legit choice to 1v5 the enemy team.


So a legit choice if you want to troll shit players, not so much if you want to win an even matchup.

Then again if you play any champ really well you can destroy shit players with it.. so yeah.

a legit choice if u feel like u can beat the other mid lane instead of stalemating them for a 15 min farm off
i wish riot would give me better ping
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 21 2011 14:48 GMT
#4736
This deserves a poll

Poll: Did you know about the "arrow thing"?

Yes (37)
 
65%

No (20)
 
35%

57 total votes

Your vote: Did you know about the "arrow thing"?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
January 21 2011 14:50 GMT
#4737
I always figured ashe was kinda meh in the world of Solo Q, but really hit her stride in premades.

I mean... vent + arrow = OP
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
January 21 2011 15:27 GMT
#4738
Haha, well, loco finally giving us some useful information ;D

... I didn't know either...my life is easier now
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 21 2011 15:43 GMT
#4739
TL vs TRYHARDS
5-man normal queue, just minding our own business, when we run into a Sion Sivir Rammus and two other people I forget about team. (We had super pro Nunu solo top and jungle Yi, etc) They one-sidedly destroy us with superior coordination and constant 5man roaming and ganking. Talk about tryhard.
Mildly frustrated, we queue up again and get... THE SAME TEAM. Only this time...
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 21 2011 15:49 GMT
#4740
On January 22 2011 00:43 Tooplark wrote:
TL vs TRYHARDS
5-man normal queue, just minding our own business, when we run into a Sion Sivir Rammus and two other people I forget about team. (We had super pro Nunu solo top and jungle Yi, etc) They one-sidedly destroy us with superior coordination and constant 5man roaming and ganking. Talk about tryhard.
Mildly frustrated, we queue up again and get... THE SAME TEAM. Only this time...
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I think that tale pales in comparison to how MrEnzyme, Lokan, Blazer and I+1 got crushed 5v5, then won 4v5 against the same team afterwards when Blazer discs from 9min and on.
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